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Ok a noob question

I saw high level holy mage players don't use full Heimdall set WHY? When it comes to 5 body pieces they mix them with Heimdall and Heaven-sent WHY ?

Is there any reason? what will happen if they go full Heimdall or Heaven-sent ?

thanks

This post has been edited by xcaliber9999: Jul 4 2017, 22:08

Ok a noob question

I saw high level holy mage players don't use full Heimdall set WHY? When it comes to 5 body pieces they mix them with Heimdall and Heaven-sent WHY ?

Is there any reason? what will happen if they go full Heimdall or Heaven-sent ?

thanks

proficiency bonuses from heaven-sent. You want something like 2x level as effect proficiency for holy mage.

Is there any reason? what will happen if they go full Heimdall or Heaven-sent ?

They explode and die.

Seriously, check this section and this section from the wiki and see the [hvlist.niblseed.com] monster holy mitigation on hvlist.

Mixing prof and edb pieces is done to maximize the damage dealt.

@SidZBear: at least try not to forge the shield, the cost of those HGWood is too high for what it's worth.
And decent slaughter pieces go for 2-4M, not sure where you got the 15M from, unless you want nearly peerless ADB roll equips, which is definitely not something it's worth aiming for unless you are uber-rich.

They explode and die.

Seriously, check this section and this section from the wiki and see the [hvlist.niblseed.com] monster holy mitigation on hvlist.

Mixing prof and edb pieces is done to maximize the damage dealt.

@SidZBear: at least try not to forge the shield, the cost of those HGWood is too high for what it's worth.
And decent slaughter pieces go for 2-4M, not sure where you got the 15M from, unless you want nearly peerless ADB roll equips, which is definitely not something it's worth aiming for unless you are uber-rich.

I'm looking to upgrade to ~50% savage*slaughter pieces, which are uncommon in auction and go for a rather pretty penny.

I was trying to get a piece a couple weeks ago, 80% helm, ended up going for 15m

This post has been edited by SidZBear: Jul 4 2017, 23:04

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I'm looking to upgrade to ~50% savage*slaughter pieces, which are uncommon in auction and go for a rather pretty penny.

I was trying to get a piece a couple weeks ago, 80% helm, ended up going for 15m

non-savage power slaughter is far more cheaper,80% ADB is around 3-5m,armor/gauntlets are a little higher may go for 5-8m.

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This post has been edited by Nanoha_Prayer: Jul 5 2017, 01:58

non-savage power slaughter is far more cheaper,80% ADB is around 3-5m,armor/gauntlets are a little higher may go for 5-8m.

But then I end up going through 3 more upgrade cycles instead of 2 before I consider my 1H set... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

But then I end up going through 3 more upgrade cycles instead of 2 before I consider my 1H set... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

i tried to make sure all of the pieces i bought were >70% ADB. i ended up getting really impatient and broke that rule though and regret it. i have savage leggings that i got for i think 6-7 mill but it is only 30%, helmet is around 30% as well.

if you have the money be patient for the good pieces and go all out. if not, try to get the >70% ones; they are not cheap. expect to pay between 5-10 mill for each piece, add another 5-7 mill on that if it is in that range and savage.


i currently have all power slaughter with 30-40 upgrades on each piece and 80 ups on my weapon. ADB is around 11.5k with grace and knowledge and my clear speed is still laughably slower compared to mid-high tier mages. unless you're melee for life like me, mage is still far superior to us and a good investment.

Crystarium IV or V for melee is useless and a super-mega-ultra-hyper-bad investment unless your play 2h+/day.

i hate that i have to agree to this but i do. with my ADB and dmg perks i clear PFfest in a little more than 2 hours. i would say im decently upgraded too.




i actually have a question, do counter attacks from a parry or block crit? If they don't then why would you spend so much on savage gear considering 60%(rough guesstimate) of your clearspeed is dependent on your counter attacks and the damage they do.

i actually have a question, do counter attacks from a parry or block crit? If they don't then why would you spend so much on savage gear considering 60%(rough guesstimate) of your clearspeed is dependent on your counter attacks and the damage they do.

No, they don't crit, same is true for strikes.
See here for more information.

If they don't then why would you spend so much on savage gear considering 60%(rough guesstimate) of your clearspeed is dependent on your counter attacks and the damage they do.

60%? I cant secont that. The only time counter attacks have really a noticeable effect is when i play a SG arena with imperil. And even then i am happy about every additional critdamage i can get to bring those SG down. I guess when my killing speed for them goes up, the noticable effect of the counter attacks will go down. So i really have no idea where do you got those 60% from.

60%? I cant secont that. The only time counter attacks have really a noticeable effect is when i play a SG arena with imperil. And even then i am happy about every additional critdamage i can get to bring those SG down. I guess when my killing speed for them goes up, the noticable effect of the counter attacks will go down. So i really have no idea where do you got those 60% from.

60% might be a bit high but aside from DWD i do pffest and i would say counter attacks count for atleast 40% of my dmg for each round. by the time i kill 3/4 monster all the other monster are usually around half health.

i can see how crit dmg would have a greater impact in SG arenas compared to grindfest.

about spike shields, it says it increase my elemental resist, will it decrease the resist of mob?

about spike shields, it says it increase my elemental resist, will it decrease the resist of mob?

Read here.

A 600 rounds IWBTH run or a 350 rounds PF run,which is better?

This post has been edited by Nanoha_Prayer: Jul 5 2017, 11:53

is there any working equipment ranges script now ?

the old one not working. I am not very active on forum lately and the script thread is jumbled.

still didnt read the wiki tho. i assume it still dead now ?

Read here.

thanks

I have this idea for a build but have no idea if it would be worth investing money/time into and would like to get your opinion.
The idea is pretty basic: to get high damage avoidance/resistance stats without throwing millions for every single piece of eq.
Style would be 1H with usual rapier/force shield combo using a set of [elemental prefix] shade of shadowdancer armor.
Every pierce of armor and a shield would have a different elemental prefix and since the shade have 0 piercing
resistance I would aim for a 'of deflection' suffix on the shield.
I would not look for highest ADB but high Evade/elemental resist stats on the armor which would allow me to get sensible prices. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

In the end I would end up with a set along the lines of:
Ethernal Rapier of Slaughter
Amber Force Shield of Deflection
Ruby Shade Helmet of the Shadowdancer
Cobalt Shade Breastplate of the Shadowdancer
Jade Shade Gauntlets of the Shadowdancer
Zircon Shade Leggings of the Shadowdancer
Onyx Shade Boots of the Shadowdancer

I am also considering switching the force shield for a buckler of the Barrier to get lower interference,
I guess this kind of a setup could be viable for running PFUDOR-fest with little needed attention.
Am I crazy to think this is any way good idea? Or should I just throw the idea out the window?

I have this idea for a build but have no idea if it would be worth investing money/time into and would like to get your opinion.
The idea is pretty basic: to get high damage avoidance/resistance stats without throwing millions for every single piece of eq.
Style would be 1H with usual rapier/force shield combo using a set of [elemental prefix] shade of shadowdancer armor.
Every pierce of armor and a shield would have a different elemental prefix and since the shade have 0 piercing
resistance I would aim for a 'of deflection' suffix on the shield.
I would not look for highest ADB but high Evade/elemental resist stats on the armor which would allow me to get sensible prices. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

In the end I would end up with a set along the lines of:
Ethernal Rapier of Slaughter
Amber Force Shield of Deflection
Ruby Shade Helmet of the Shadowdancer
Cobalt Shade Breastplate of the Shadowdancer
Jade Shade Gauntlets of the Shadowdancer
Zircon Shade Leggings of the Shadowdancer
Onyx Shade Boots of the Shadowdancer

I am also considering switching the force shield for a buckler of the Barrier to get lower interference,
I guess this kind of a setup could be viable for running PFUDOR-fest with little needed attention.
Am I crazy to think this is any way good idea? Or should I just throw the idea out the window?

shade 1H has already been reported to work relatively bad. this is because Shade's Evade hinders 1H gameplay - letting apart Fleet or Shadowdancer. it may still be safe, but surely not as effective as 1H Power. possibly not even as DW Shade, but the latter is only my guess

shade 1H has already been reported to work relatively bad. this is because Shade's Evade hinders 1H gameplay - letting apart Fleet or Shadowdancer. it may still be safe, but surely not as effective as 1H Power. possibly not even as DW Shade, but the latter is only my guess

But it could work for PFUDOR Fest. I mean when evade is something you even want as 1H at the end, what i still somehow doubt, it could be worth a try, but just for the Fest.

But it could work for PFUDOR Fest. I mean when evade is something you even want as 1H at the end, what i still somehow doubt, it could be worth a try, but just for the Fest.

oh, i was making a table for the result of the mage buff day and misread the last lines. my bad (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

well, i have some doubts but it's worth a try, if nothing else...