[X] My Assistant

Several months ago, I did some researches about 1H.
I don't play 1H anymore, so now reveal them.


1. Calculating strike damage

[Spec]
* Level 468

* Weapon: Legendary Arctic Rapier of Slaughter (Butcher Lv.5 Fatality Lv.4)

* Physical Attack
10842 attack base damage
212.2% hit chance
48.2% crit chance * Heartseeker 10% = 53.38%
+68% crit damage + Heartseeker 15% = +83%
2.4% attack speed bonus

* Defense
82.5% physical mitigation
76.5% magical mitigation
4.7% evade chance
66.7% block chance
65.4% parry chance
23.7% resist chance

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Level 468
grindfest @ PFUDOR
(Arctic Rapier + Infusion of Darkness + Flame Spike Shield)

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           | overall                       | hit             | crit            | crit  | crit
           |     _damage | _count |   _avg | _count |   _avg | _count |   _avg | _rate |  _mod
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You        | 491,269,981 | 21,595 | 22,749 | 10,208 | 15,828 | 11,387 | 28,954 | 0.527 | 1.829
Cold Strike|  75,304,621 | 18,846 |  3,996 |  9,274 |  4,091 |  9,572 |  3,903 | 0.508 | 0.954
Dark Strike|  69,281,453 | 18,344 |  3,777 |  9,020 |  3,857 |  9,324 |  3,699 | 0.508 | 0.959
Void Strike| 127,588,552 | 17,864 |  7,142 |  8,808 |  7,289 |  9,056 |  6,999 | 0.507 | 0.960
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counter    | 304,948,491 |                 | 26,516 | 11,501 |

- An average damage of normal hits is 15,828
- A sum of 3 strikes is 15,237 : it is slightly lower than normal hits' avg, but I'll consider they are almost same.
- Searing Skin, which is caused by Flame Spike Shield, reduces a monster's cold resistance by 25%.
- High pl monsters have high mitigations against elemental strikes
- A counter-attack's damage is 75% of normal attack ( http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Fighting_Styles#One-Handed )



2. Butcher vs Fatality

* In my case, Butcher Lv.5 increases the attack damage by 2.312%.
My current equip set for 1H is consist of 2x Power Protection and 3x Power Slaughter.
It means that Butcher's efficiency will be reduced if I wear 5x Power Slaughter.


[Butcher Lv.0 + Fatality Lv.0] (estimated)
$ad 10597
crit_chance 53.38% : 48.2% * Heartseeker 10%
crit_bonus +75% : +60% + Heartseeker 15%

skill
= $ad * (1 + 0.5338 * 0.75)
= $ad * 1.4

normal attack + strikes damage
= $ad * (1 + 0.5338 * 0.75) + $ad
= $ad * 2.4

counter attack
= $ad * 0.75


[Butcher Lv.5]
10842 : $ad * 1.02312
crit_chance 53.38%
crit_bonus +75%

skill
= $ad * 1.4 * 1.02312
= $ad * 1.432368

normal attack + strikes damage
= $ad * 2.4 * 1.02312
= $ad * 2.455488

counter attack
= $ad * 0.75 * 1.02312
= $ad * 0.76734


[Fatality Lv.5]
10597 : $ad
crit_chance 53.38%
crit_bonus +85% : Fatality +10%

skill
= $ad * (1 + 0.5338 * 0.85)
= $ad * 1.45373

normal attack + strikes damage
= $ad * (1 + 0.5338 * 0.85) + $ad
= $ad * 2.45373

counter attack
= $ad * 0.75

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Summary

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              | Normal Attack | Counter Attack | Skill    
----------------------------------------------------------
None          | 2.4           | 0.75           | 1.4      
Butcher Lv.5  | 2.455488      | 0.76734        | 1.432368
Fatality Lv.5 | 2.45373       | 0.75           | 1.45373  

3. Overpower

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Level 456
Butcher Lv.3 Fatality Lv.2 (Potency Tier 5)

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        | hit   | crit  | parried | sum    | parried_rate | hit_rate  
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normal  | 3,382 | 3,641 |     716 |  7,739 |      9.2518% |  90.7486%
stunned | 6,098 | 6,327 |       0 | 12,425 |      0%      | 100.0%    
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overall | 9,480 | 9,968 |     716 | 20,164 |      3.5509% |  96.4491%

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Level 456
Overpower Lv.5 (Potency Tier 5)

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        | hit   | crit   | parried | sum    | parried_rate | hit_rate  
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normal  | 3,329 |  3,683 |     452 |  7,464 |      6.0557% |  93.9443%
stunned | 5,946 |  6,330 |       0 | 12,276 |      0%      | 100.0%    
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overall | 9,275 | 10,013 |     452 | 19,740 |      2.2898% |  97.7102%

- Overpower applies only to normal attacks.
- In this case, it increases the real hit rate by 1.3075%. (97.7102 / 96.4491 = 1.013075)
- A counter-attack stuns monsters, which can't parry. For this reason, Overpower is less efficient than Butcher and Fatality. (to one-handed style)



4. Spike Shield

- Cold/Elec/Wind Strike with proper Spike Shields are better than Holy/Dark Strike. (except for SG arena)
- This is the reason why I had not changed my Arctic Rapier for Hallowed/Demonic one.

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Level 424

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Flame Spike | overall | hit    | crit  
----------------------------------------
You         | 15,740  | 11,533 | 20,422
Cold Strike |  2,990  |  3,052 |  2,916
Dark Strike |  2,927  |  2,984 |  2,859
Void Strike |  5,280  |  5,368 |  5,174

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Flame Spike | overall | hit    | crit  
----------------------------------------
You         | 15,707  | 11,522 | 20,381
Cold Strike |  2,998  |  3,053 |  2,934
Holy Strike |  2,908  |  2,961 |  2,844
Void Strike |  5,258  |  5,350 |  5,147

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Flame Spike | overall | hit    | crit  
----------------------------------------
You         | 15,762  | 11,525 | 20,571
Cold Strike |  2,979  |  3,031 |  2,915
Wind Strike |  2,698  |  2,722 |  2,669
Void Strike |  5,289  |  5,360 |  5,202

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Flame Spike | overall | hit    | crit  
----------------------------------------
You         | 15,786  | 11,510 | 20,544
Cold Strike |  3,020  |  3,062 |  2,970
Elec Strike |  2,710  |  2,748 |  2,664
Void Strike |  5,286  |  5,367 |  5,189

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Flame Spike | overall | hit    | crit  
----------------------------------------
You         | 15,763  | 11,532 | 20,539
Cold Strike |  3,004  |  3,049 |  2,948
Fire Strike |  2,438  |  2,471 |  2,399
Void Strike |  5,293  |  5,371 |  5,198

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Shock Spike | overall | hit    | crit  
----------------------------------------
You         | 15,741  | 11,583 | 20,480
Cold Strike |  2,701  |  2,752 |  2,638
Fire Strike |  2,823  |  2,868 |  2,767
Void Strike |  5,301  |  5,386 |  5,197

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Summary

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            | overall |
--------------------------------------
You         | 100.0%  |
Void Strike |  33.55% |
Cold Strike |  19.03% | * Flame Spike
Dark Strike |  18.60% |
Holy Strike |  18.51% |
Fire Strike |  17.93% | * Shock Spike
Elec Strike |  17.17% |
Cold Strike |  17.16% |
Wind Strike |  17.12% |
Fire Strike |  15.47% |

This post has been edited by sssss2: Dec 23 2015, 13:53

So you basically found that the best setup for 1H is;
- Void strike weapon Level 10 (ethereal or elemental)
- Butcher + Fatality potencies
- Spike shield to augment Elemental strike

I don't mean to simplify it so much, but isn't that what 1H people are generally doing now?

So you basically found that the best setup for 1H is;
- Void strike weapon Level 10 (ethereal or elemental)
- Butcher + Fatality potencies
- Spike shield to augment Elemental strike

I don't mean to simplify it so much, but isn't that what 1H people are generally doing now?

The main thing is butcher vs fat its interesting to see how they compare to each other.
Its a nice thread anyway, but should be put in HentaiVerse System Discussion.

2.4% attack speed bonus

Oh, turtle, I guess it's unrelated to my playstyle then (well there was the money too).

Oh, turtle, I guess it's unrelated to my playstyle then (well there was the money too).

err, isnt more atk speed, less clear speed for 1h ?

somebody already proven his/her clearspeed decreased by not using haste. 100% become 88% time needed.

forgot on which thread,

Still not fast than mage (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

err, isnt more atk speed, less clear speed for 1h ?

somebody already proven his/her clearspeed decreased by not using haste. 100% become 88% time needed.

forgot on which thread,

I tried this (no haste) and I agree, but the effect is much lower ~5-6% faster.

I tried this (no haste) and I agree, but the effect is much lower ~5-6% faster.

different PC spec and different equipment set maybe the factor (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

So you basically found that the best setup for 1H is;
- Void strike weapon Level 10 (ethereal or elemental)
- Butcher + Fatality potencies
- Spike shield to augment Elemental strike

I don't mean to simplify it so much, but isn't that what 1H people are generally doing now?

Some people undervalue Cold/Elec/Wind Rapier and spend excessive credits to buy Hallowed/Demonic one.

I think it is a waste of money.

Some people undervalue Cold/Elec/Wind Rapier and spend excessive credits to buy Hallowed/Demonic one.

I think it is a waste of money.

Well you save 150-70 = 80c for each infusion (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
And cold strike seems the best because fire shield wont decrease your counter chance.

My critic chance is 60%.
With 4 slaughter and 1 protection armor,fatality seems better than butcher then.

My critic chance is 60%.
With 4 slaughter and 1 protection armor,fatality seems better than butcher then.

are ye sure 4 slaughter and 1 protecton can reach 60% ?

I have total balance set (except shield, but still P+ str and dex) (L+ crit and P+ dex) plus little forge and have ~60% crit base.

(IMG:[i.imgur.com] http://i.imgur.com/LXkW2uX.png)

This post has been edited by karyl123: Dec 25 2015, 04:40

are ye sure 4 slaughter and 1 protecton can reach 60% ?

I have total balance set (except shield, but still P+ str and dex) (L+ crit and P+ dex) plus little forge and have ~60% crit base.

(IMG:[i.imgur.com] http://i.imgur.com/LXkW2uX.png)

he using niten , not 1H (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I think it's impossible to reach 60% crit chance using 1H slaughter even with fully forged everything (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)


Tanya aja si void diatas berapa crit % nya kalo ngak percaya ryl (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
Fully forged gears tuh void (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

he using niten , not 1H (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I think it's impossible to reach 60% crit chance using 1H slaughter even with fully forged everything (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
Tanya aja si void diatas berapa crit % nya kalo ngak percaya ryl (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
Fully forged gears tuh void (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

thread title "research for 1H" so I think everything is 1H related (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

kinda hard to fully forge 1H set now. RA price increase to 70K because of some bastard have too much credit to spend.

edit :

wait whut, Niten with power slaughter O.o ?

tried niten with power balance, I died at about round 70 PF DWD @@ 70% phys/mag mitigtation and only 60% parry.

This post has been edited by karyl123: Dec 25 2015, 09:03

Some people undervalue Cold/Elec/Wind Rapier and spend excessive credits to buy Hallowed/Demonic one.

I think it is a waste of money.

lets discuss this. I find this interesting why you prefer elemental than holy/dark rapier.

based on wiki the status effect (searing skin, etc) has only about 20% chance to proc.

that means you only get 20% chance to get extra 25% damage from elemental strike. also the status effect only can be proced after block/parry.

meanwhile, most monster has lower holy/dark resistance(25% or more than elemental), so you get more elemental strike bonus damage at 100% chance without needing of status effect proc, it still my theory tho.

This post has been edited by karyl123: Dec 27 2015, 02:39

meanwhile, most monster has lower holy/dark resistance(25% or more than elemental), so you get more elemental strike bonus damage at 100% chance without needing of status effect proc, it still my theory tho.

Definitely it's not 25%, more like 10-15% (cold vs holy is like 6%), with dark being better than holy.
Also elec and wind have more resistance than cold but giants have -25 with them (and giants should be by far the most common monsters).

While I find strange than cold + spike is better than dark it's not as unexpected.
Still, I would always get a demonic (second choice hallowed) rapier if possible (or ethereal with dark/holy strike).
You can always enchant with elemental + spike for normal arenas and with holy for SG arenas.
Best of both worlds.

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monster_pl    
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min     |  750
max     | 2250
average | 1328

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resistance_avg
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Fire |  54.45  
Cold |  50.45  
Elec |  51.18  
Wind |  50.41  
Holy |  46.20  
Dark |  43.77  

It's another part of the analysis result.

Still, I would always get a demonic (second choice hallowed) rapier if possible (or ethereal with dark/holy strike).
You can always enchant with elemental + spike for normal arenas and with holy for SG arenas.
Best of both worlds.

Yes, you are right.

But I won't pay additional 10m+ credits to save just 10 minutes per a day.

This post has been edited by sssss2: Dec 27 2015, 04:25

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monster_pl    
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min     |  750
max     | 2250
average | 1328

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resistance_avg
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Fire |  54.45  
Cold |  50.45  
Elec |  51.18  
Wind |  50.41  
Holy |  46.20  
Dark |  43.77  

It's another part of the analysis result.
Yes, you are right.

But I won't pay additional 10m+ credits to save just 10 minutes per a day.

whops, only 5 % @@

I always though it 25% or more.

but still, the proc rate of the spike effect is ~20% and only proced on block/parry,while most monster dead in 6 hit or less. the 20% is gambling thats why I prefer the 100% > 5% more damage from holy.

btw, the 10M+ extra only applied for of Slaughter (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I am not using of Slaughter set.

but still, the proc rate of the spike effect is ~20% and only proced on block/parry,while most monster dead in 6 hit or less. the 20% is gambling thats why I prefer the 100% > 5% more damage from holy.

Well, I analyzed battle logs and proved from them, but you don't agree and still believe your assumption is right.

wait whut, Niten with power slaughter O.o ?

tried niten with power balance, I died at about round 70 PF DWD @@ 70% phys/mag mitigtation and only 60% parry.

I spoke with someone who uses Niten in early 400's with I think full Power Protection set and he clears DWD in 32~ mins.
So i wondered may be its possible to be even faster with a (good) forged Power Slaughter set.^^