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post Nov 26 2016, 23:05
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QUOTE(RoadShoe @ Nov 26 2016, 21:51) *

So Bindings affect the base score?? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

I hovered to see if a pair of savage leggings I have were better than the agile I wear.
The agile tore the savage up by a long shot on every stat. What??? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)

How are you suppose to tell if you use heavy bindings?

I Hovered these two.

What I'm wearing

What I want to develop

https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Upgrade#Upgrading
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post Nov 26 2016, 23:05
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QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Nov 26 2016, 12:57) *

Use the Hentaiverse Equipment Comparison, you can find it in the Script Compendium.
Here: https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=190038


OK

I have it, but never learned how to use it.
I think it's been explained on another thread.

I never realized it until today. I was like "No way these are better."

Thanks gianfrix! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Nov 26 2016, 23:07
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Thanks Scremaz. I'm going to the link now.
Jeez... So many knowledge gaps to overcome. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Nov 26 2016, 23:08
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QUOTE(RoadShoe @ Nov 26 2016, 22:05) *

OK

I have it, but never learned how to use it.
I think it's been explained on another thread.

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Features:

Allows to compare pieces of equipment with this hotkeys: "f": forum link, "h": HTML link, "r": open Wiki page, "t": original base, "b": current base (original + forge/IW), "y": original base vs. {SEMLP}Max, "i": original base lv scale, "o": original base compare, "p": original base lv scale compare, "e": level 0 stat compare, +forge/IW, "q": direct stat compare, +forge/IW, "u": stat scale with your level, "w": compare stats (+forge/IW) vs. {SEMLP}Max, "n": switch wiki base data 21 January 2015 and 6 April 2016
Older build do have different hotkey or do not have them at all. Beware!

from the same topic.
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post Nov 26 2016, 23:11
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QUOTE(RoadShoe @ Nov 26 2016, 22:05) *

OK

I have it, but never learned how to use it.
I think it's been explained on another thread.

I never realized it until today. I was like "No way these are better."

Thanks gianfrix! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

No problem (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
The hotkeys are written at the start of the script too, if you open it.
Here's a big thread about it: https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=192652
You need to use a custom font too, or it's not going to work!

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post Nov 26 2016, 23:22
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Nov 26 2016, 13:08) *

from the same topic.


So "t" is what I'll be using mostly. Got it! Thanks! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Nov 26 2016, 13:11) *

No problem (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
The hotkeys are written at the start of the script too, if you open it.
Here's a big thread about it: https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=192652
You need to use a custom font too, or it's not going to work!


I made a shortcut to my desktop with that thread until I get used to it.
Ahhh... These wonderful wonderful toys. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

Thanks again!!
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post Nov 26 2016, 23:23
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QUOTE(RoadShoe @ Nov 26 2016, 20:51) *
So Bindings affect the base score?? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

I hovered to see if a pair of savage leggings I have were better than the agile I wear.
The agile tore the savage up by a long shot on every stat. What??? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)

How are you suppose to tell if you use heavy bindings?

I Hovered these two.

What I'm wearing

What I want to develop
Plug the forged one's stats into the forge formula on the wiki and you can determine the base stat. Hovering over the forge one's stats will only give you the forged stats, which is not useful when trying to make direct comparisons.
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post Nov 26 2016, 23:44
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Nov 26 2016, 22:23) *

Plug the forged one's stats into the forge formula on the wiki and you can determine the base stat. Hovering over the forge one's stats will only give you the forged stats, which is not useful when trying to make direct comparisons.

it can even be automatized in an excel spreadsheet. just saying
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post Nov 26 2016, 23:46
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Nov 26 2016, 13:23) *

Plug the forged one's stats into the forge formula on the wiki and you can determine the base stat. Hovering over the forge one's stats will only give you the forged stats, which is not useful when trying to make direct comparisons.


I would literally have to search on my phone calculator where the log button is.
Or do a quick spreadsheet.... or try to find that 48GX I haven't used in years. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

If I'm doing the script right, the Agile set is truly superior.
This is what the equipment comparison script told me compared to the two savage leggings I own.
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post Nov 26 2016, 23:54
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QUOTE(RoadShoe @ Nov 26 2016, 22:46) *

I would literally have to search on my phone calculator where the log button is.
Or do a quick spreadsheet.... or try to find that 48GX I haven't used in years. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

If I'm doing the script right, the Agile set is truly superior.
This is what the equipment comparison script told me compared to the two savage leggings I own.
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Yeah, the Agile piece is actually better.
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post Nov 27 2016, 01:52
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OK, a whole new world just opened for me. Looking at Roadshoe's equipment screenshots... you can have improvements greater than Lvl 10??!?? Are these only available via Soulforging and having it keep leveling with you, or can you use the forge to add greater than Lvl 10? Or something else?
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post Nov 27 2016, 01:56
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Agile base unforged ADB: 11.08 (vs Savage 10.68. Savage has 22% ADB, that's pretty underwhelming)
Agile base unforged Pmit: 7.31 (vs Savage 6.76)
Agile base unforged evade: 4.5 (vs Savage 4.68)
PABs aren't different enough in anything of importance.

Agile looks moderately better, but another problem is that Agile type isn't that useful, and Savage is very good. Were their ADBs not so far apart, I'd say the Savage would be clearly superior. As is, maybe the unforged Savage is still slightly better than the unforged Agile, but since you've already IWd and forged the Agile, I don't think switching would be worth it. If you want to switch to Savage eventually (which you should), look for better base ADB
QUOTE(sogeth @ Nov 26 2016, 23:52) *
OK, a whole new world just opened for me. Looking at Roadshoe's equipment screenshots... you can have improvements greater than Lvl 10??!?? Are these only available via Soulforging and having it keep leveling with you, or can you use the forge to add greater than Lvl 10? Or something else?
As you forge more, you level up your Forge level, allowing for higher max levels of forging.

https://ehwiki.org/wiki/The_Forge#Forge_Level
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post Nov 27 2016, 02:02
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QUOTE(sogeth @ Nov 27 2016, 00:52) *

OK, a whole new world just opened for me. Looking at Roadshoe's equipment screenshots... you can have improvements greater than Lvl 10??!?? Are these only available via Soulforging and having it keep leveling with you, or can you use the forge to add greater than Lvl 10? Or something else?

You can forge everything to level 25 (WD/ADB/MDB to lv 50), even with forge level 0.
You get forge exp from forging, and once you're level 50 you can forge everything to level 50 (WD/ADB/MDB to lv 100).
Every item needs specific bindings to go over level 5 in whatever stat.
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post Nov 27 2016, 03:13
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Nov 26 2016, 15:56) *

Agile base unforged ADB: 11.08 (vs Savage 10.68. Savage has 22% ADB, that's pretty underwhelming)
Agile base unforged Pmit: 7.31 (vs Savage 6.76)
Agile base unforged evade: 4.5 (vs Savage 4.68)
PABs aren't different enough in anything of importance.

Agile looks moderately better, but another problem is that Agile type isn't that useful, and Savage is very good. Were their ADBs not so far apart, I'd say the Savage would be clearly superior. As is, maybe the unforged Savage is still slightly better than the unforged Agile, but since you've already IWd and forged the Agile, I don't think switching would be worth it. If you want to switch to Savage eventually (which you should), look for better base ADB



I'm looking for savage arcanist using your search script. Rare... Not out there, and probably locked up in inventories forever.

So you think the savage is still slightly better? Why is agile not that useful?
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post Nov 27 2016, 03:23
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QUOTE(RoadShoe @ Nov 27 2016, 01:13) *
So you think the savage is still slightly better? Why is agile not that useful?
It's easier to think of it the other way around - Savage is obviously useful because it directly increases clear speed (via more crit damage), while the benefits of Agile are much more nebulous. More attack speed does little. You'll take a tiny bit less damage per turn on average, but you'll also regen and draught-regen (hp/mp/sp) less per turn. You'll also recast buffs slightly more rarely.

Agile isn't bad (except for well-equipped 1h), but Savage's directly increased clear speed is so much better.
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post Nov 27 2016, 03:26
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QUOTE(RoadShoe @ Nov 27 2016, 02:13) *

I'm looking for savage arcanist using your search script. Rare... Not out there, and probably locked up in inventories forever.

So you think the savage is still slightly better? Why is agile not that useful?

DW Shade relies on crits, so boosting Crit damage is always good. gain is simply added to the total pot. on the other hand, Speed is added multiplicatively, so its efficiency is quite mitigated. or so i guess. we should ask to people who has both sets.
but at least on the paper, Savage directly boost damage, so why not? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Nov 27 2016, 03:36
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Hello
Whatever you use since I started playing HV, use Dual and Metal Armor, since I reached level 300 I decided to raise the other styles of armor and armor, now what I have noticed is that since reaching 226 in Cloth, no I have increased the points in health as it was happening, I was hardly recommended to enter this post to ask now I am in 234 and still the same, I put pictures where the level of Cloth when I was in 232, 233 and 234 my question is Is this normal or is it a fault?

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QUOTE(gansta @ Nov 27 2016, 02:36) *

Hello
Whatever you use since I started playing HV, use Dual and Metal Armor, since I reached level 300 I decided to raise the other styles of armor and armor, now what I have noticed is that since reaching 226 in Cloth, no I have increased the points in health as it was happening, I was hardly recommended to enter this post to ask now I am in 234 and still the same, I put pictures where the level of Cloth when I was in 232, 233 and 234 my question is Is this normal or is it a fault?

What? Is this a riddle? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

PS: If you don't get the irony, i'm asking you to rewrite the question better, it's not understandable (or, at the very least, i can't understand it).

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post Nov 27 2016, 03:42
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QUOTE(gianfrix94 @ Nov 26 2016, 19:38) *

What? Is this a riddle? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)


LOL, I did not try that but I think that's the way it is, well the simplified question is that I'm uploading the cloth armor, but I have not raised my health points since I got to 226, I'm already in 234, increase
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post Nov 27 2016, 03:43
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QUOTE(gansta @ Nov 27 2016, 02:36) *

Hello
Whatever you use since I started playing HV, use Dual and Metal Armor, since I reached level 300 I decided to raise the other styles of armor and armor, now what I have noticed is that since reaching 226 in Cloth, no I have increased the points in health as it was happening, I was hardly recommended to enter this post to ask now I am in 234 and still the same, I put pictures where the level of Cloth when I was in 232, 233 and 234 my question is Is this normal or is it a fault?

Cloth abilities don't raise HP. it's a normal thing.

just fyi, Cloth abilities boost only strictly mage-related things, like MP tank and spell ACC/Crit/Speed. check here
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