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So for that artic axe I did the calculation and obviously for scaled stats I get what you mean. If I soulfuse the item, is it gonna be better than my gear?

But my question is, how good is the roll on this equipment?
Though we don't know how high a stat could drop, we must have an idea of sorts, I don't need exact values. Just a rough estimation.

For that axe this is my calculation:

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Basically the highest possible damage for that axe is around 1874 at that level. And the lowest is 1266. So it's mid point in terms of possible stats.

you mean something like ranges in wiki? There you have all the estimated base values...

So for that artic axe I did the calculation and obviously for scaled stats I get what you mean. If I soulfuse the item, is it gonna be better than my gear?

But my question is, how good is the roll on this equipment?
Though we don't know how high a stat could drop, we must have an idea of sorts, I don't need exact values. Just a rough estimation.

For that axe this is my calculation:

(IMG:[i.gyazo.com] https://i.gyazo.com/0f8d5b331baf356d94006f860016c376.png)

Basically the highest possible damage for that axe is around 1874 at that level. And the lowest is 1266. So it's mid point in terms of possible stats.

now that you make me think of it, it may be somehow useful for shopkeepers. if only Leg inflation, level-bounding and unbalance (which led to only a handful of mainstream styles) didn't kill the market and nowadays even a top-notch Leg Axe is unlikely to sell (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
just to quote a certain someone from a couple of days ago, it's a pity that with all the gears variety on this game we're using the same things (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

[edit]: btw, base ADB for that Axe is 68.59. wiki says Mag range is 62.69~69.44 (quite reliable since Lmin is 68.17 and there's only a little overlapping).
maximum ADB for that level is therefore 1602, we're close to the edge. please don't make my Axe look crappier than what already is, since i'm trying to sell it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

you mean something like ranges in wiki? There you have all the estimated base values...

not all have been discovered. though if you're happy with a rough estimation you could fill gaps by taking, just saying, the LMax-Lmin difference, the SMax-Smin one and inteprolating them.
or, if all of either Max/min ranges are known, put something like MMax = Lmin, a 5% overlap or so.
rough, but pretty damn effective (and simple!) for someone who only wants to know if he is within the lower, mid or higher end of the range

This post has been edited by Scremaz: Feb 12 2016, 16:58

yup , I agree for ranges of some equipment (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

I still remember got legendary ethereal katana of slaughter with 72 base WD (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
( one of the worst WD but sold quite good in aria auction because good IW/holy strike ) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

meanwhile fap.fap have 80+ WD leg ethereal katana of slaughter ~ one of the best WD for leg katana (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

So for that artic axe I did the calculation and obviously for scaled stats I get what you mean. If I soulfuse the item, is it gonna be better than my gear?

But my question is, how good is the roll on this equipment?
Though we don't know how high a stat could drop, we must have an idea of sorts, I don't need exact values. Just a rough estimation.

For that axe this is my calculation:

Basically the highest possible damage for that axe is around 1874 at that level. And the lowest is 1266. So it's mid point in terms of possible stats.

Like others said you can check the wiki for ranges or use some addon.
Leg item can roll from pmax to 0.85pmax so its pretty straight forward.

Leg item can roll from pmax to 0.85pmax so its pretty straight forward.

0.85? is it official?

[edit]: little off-topic. playing with my DW Shade set, with SV on and 28.4% Speed Bonus. it seems not only BW effect, but also elemental strikes land every 3 turns. at this point SV is good for survivability, but quite bad for damage for DW as well, isn't it? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

This post has been edited by Scremaz: Feb 12 2016, 17:14

yup , I agree for ranges of some equipment (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

I still remember got legendary ethereal katana of slaughter with 72 base WD (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
( one of the worst WD but sold quite good in aria auction because good IW/holy strike ) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

meanwhile fap.fap have 80+ WD leg ethereal katana of slaughter ~ one of the best WD for leg katana (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

let me save up a bit for amnesia shards <3 then I will make that Katana perfect ( I hope )
I also wanted to save all BOS to upgrade it to the limit... but my monsters are stupid.


btw.. nice Balance armor in the lottery again.. I can really recommend that one, cos Im using the same^^
if its not for the Damage, it would be cooler than slaughter

now that you make me think of it, it may be somehow useful for shopkeepers. if only Leg inflation, level-bounding and unbalance (which led to only a handful of mainstream styles) didn't kill the market and nowadays even a top-notch Leg Axe is unlikely to sell (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
just to quote a certain someone from a couple of days ago, it's a pity that with all the gears variety on this game we're using the same things (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

[edit]: btw, base ADB for that Axe is 68.59. wiki says Mag range is 62.69~69.44 (quite reliable since Lmin is 68.17 and there's only a little overlapping).
maximum ADB for that level is therefore 1602, we're close to the edge. please don't make my Axe look crappier than what already is, since i'm trying to sell it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Axes are indeed not very popular at the moment, which is why I'm surprised by the lottery today. I think it's going to be more tickets than either of the two PEAS in the lottery before (too lazy to check though). I have very similar Magnificent Arctic Axe of Slaughter too, but I think I would rather use my Magnificent Ethereal Axe of Slaughter even if it has lower ADB. I'm not expecting to sell any axes though, at the moment you can get a Legendary (Ethereal) one for very cheap (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Edit: lotteries 803 and 804 for PEAS both have only 150-160k tickets sold, today's lottery already has almost 200k.

This post has been edited by Logii: Feb 12 2016, 17:53

now that you make me think of it, it may be somehow useful for shopkeepers. if only Leg inflation, level-bounding and unbalance (which led to only a handful of mainstream styles) didn't kill the market and nowadays even a top-notch Leg Axe is unlikely to sell (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
just to quote a certain someone from a couple of days ago, it's a pity that with all the gears variety on this game we're using the same things (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

[edit]: btw, base ADB for that Axe is 68.59. wiki says Mag range is 62.69~69.44 (quite reliable since Lmin is 68.17 and there's only a little overlapping).
maximum ADB for that level is therefore 1602, we're close to the edge. please don't make my Axe look crappier than what already is, since i'm trying to sell it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
not all have been discovered. though if you're happy with a rough estimation you could fill gaps by taking, just saying, the LMax-Lmin difference, the SMax-Smin one and inteprolating them.
or, if all of either Max/min ranges are known, put something like MMax = Lmin, a 5% overlap or so.
rough, but pretty damn effective (and simple!) for someone who only wants to know if he is within the lower, mid or higher end of the range

Yea didn't mean to do that. I must've messed up my calculation somehow. But I think I get it now. I am using the equipment wiki, I'm just fucking up the formula somehow. But I think I know what I need to change to get it right now.

I'll get the updated stats and post back.

But you're right, in terms of shopkeepers, for me I understand percentage, rather than mmax,lmin smax and other simplified terms that escapes a layman like me.

Imagine if the shop keepers simply put a percentage of the main stat in their shop.

Yours would be 81% (1450.647-1606.8416) of the possible stat which is "A" by my standard.

Edit:
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This post has been edited by safmy: Feb 12 2016, 17:40

let me save up a bit for amnesia shards <3 then I will make that Katana perfect ( I hope )
I also wanted to save all BOS to upgrade it to the limit... but my monsters are stupid.
btw.. nice Balance armor in the lottery again.. I can really recommend that one, cos Im using the same^^
if its not for the Damage, it would be cooler than slaughter

just pretend you don't want to use it than maybe snowflake will bring some good potency usually (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

This post has been edited by nobody_xxx: Feb 12 2016, 17:37

just pretend you don't want to use it than maybe snowflake will bring some good potency usually (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

ho... my new Rapier ....
2 27 Unlocked innate potential: Swift Strike Level 1
2 26 Unlocked innate potential: Fatality Level 1
2 25 The equipment's potential has increased by 984 points!

I have only 6 shards left (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) totally forgot that even on Hell you get 2 potencies when its soulfused

0.85? is it official?

[edit]: little off-topic. playing with my DW Shade set, with SV on and 28.4% Speed Bonus. it seems not only BW effect, but also elemental strikes land every 3 turns. at this point SV is good for survivability, but quite bad for damage for DW as well, isn't it? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

It is somewhere in the patch notes, if I remember correctly (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Axes are indeed not very popular at the moment, which is why I'm surprised by the lottery today. I think it's going to be more tickets than either of the two PEAS in the lottery before (too lazy to check though). I have very similar Magnificent Arctic Axe of Slaughter too, but I think I would rather use my Magnificent Ethereal Axe of Slaughter even if it has lower ADB. I'm not expecting to sell any axes though, at the moment you can get a Legendary (Ethereal) one for very cheap (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Axes are quite heavy weapons. it's always better to have them Ethereal, if nothing else for the 0 BUR.
and yes, i didn't think it would have gone so high myself (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

But you're right, in terms of shopkeepers, for me I understand percentage, rather than mmax,lmin smax and other simplified terms that escapes a layman like me.

Imagine if the shop keepers simply put a percentage of the main stat in their shop.

Yours would be 81% (1450.647-1606.8416) of the possible stat which is "A" by my standard.

we used to do something like that, a while ago. it was funny. Leg items with SMax Damage could still fetch decent prices (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

just pretend you don't want to use it than maybe snowflake will bring some good potency usually (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

lol. tell me if it works (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

It is somewhere in the patch notes, if I remember correctly (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

interesting. so, with datas from lotteries and this info, at least L range is fully known.

Axe:
Just for that Axe topic, this Legendary Ethereal Axe of Slaughter is pre level-bound and has a basic forge of all to 5 and OP4. I just remembered, I have such in my inventory. Very small investment (no slaughter bindings) and big renevue. Maybe you'd like to read why forging is so essential to higher levels, here is a forging guide. It may be a bit outdated on peerless forging, but the main principles still apply.

ho... my new Rapier ....
2 27 Unlocked innate potential: Swift Strike Level 1
2 26 Unlocked innate potential: Fatality Level 1
2 25 The equipment's potential has increased by 984 points!

I have only 6 shards left (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) totally forgot that even on Hell you get 2 potencies when its soulfused

you can always buy more shards (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

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Axes are quite heavy weapons. it's always better to have them Ethereal, if nothing else for the 0 BUR.
and yes, i didn't think it would have gone so high myself (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
we used to do something like that, a while ago. it was funny. Leg items with SMax Damage could still fetch decent prices (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
lol. tell me if it works (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

that before patch 0.82 release (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)


you need to pay some monies to know it's working or not (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

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finally got a new Rapier but I cant use it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
6x in a row now Swift Strike and 3x Overpower..this is a freaking joke man, no one needs to come with % and numbers to get 1 of the potencies.. its all.. nonsense ^^ luck is luck thats all there is.. if not i would have gotten 1 of all potencies by now
add another overpower.. this makes no sense

This post has been edited by Fap.Fap: Feb 12 2016, 18:31

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finally got a new Rapier but I cant use it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
6x in a row now Swift Strike and 3x Overpower..this is a freaking joke man, no one needs to come with % and numbers to get 1 of the potencies.. its all.. nonsense ^^ luck is luck thats all there is.. if not i would have gotten 1 of all potencies by now

I had that before and I decided fuck it, I accept my hentaiverse fate. Statistics often make you wonder whether it truly is random. But probability is a theory, it isn't a fact. You'd need an infinite data sample to even come close to a definitive conclusion. Then use another formula to calculate the probability of certainty of your calculation (lol).

This is ofc assuming there isn't some flaw in the calculation method whereby it remember the last potency or something. In which case, you're forever stuck with swift strike O_O

This doesn't make sense to me:
The magic base is higher than the possible base. But that just shows how good it is I suppose.

(IMG:[i.gyazo.com] https://i.gyazo.com/499055c16f4072100e8369be288a1e88.png)

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finally got a new Rapier but I cant use it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
6x in a row now Swift Strike and 3x Overpower..this is a freaking joke man, no one needs to come with % and numbers to get 1 of the potencies.. its all.. nonsense ^^ luck is luck thats all there is.. if not i would have gotten 1 of all potencies by now
add another overpower.. this makes no sense

I know that feel.
Needed 20 shards for 5F 2B 2OP.

You probably shouldn't have soulfused it, thanks to Superlatanium reforge service is a lot cheaper in shards to soulfuse only when you're sure of the results (and you can also decide to pay for the service if you start hating IW).

Anyway, Wiki LMax value are mostly crap, I usually check the lotteries when I want to know the real maximum.

This post has been edited by Sapo84: Feb 12 2016, 18:38

I know that feel.
Needed 20 shards for 5F 2B 2OP.

You probably shouldn't have soulfused it, thanks to Superlatanium reforge service is a lot cheaper in shards to soulfuse only when you're sure of the results (and you can also decide to pay for the service if you start hating IW).

Anyway, Wiki LMax value are mostly crap, I usually check the lotteries when I want to know the real maximum.

its always 1 shard thats being used up with only 1 potency.. and since I cant even get past the first potency it doesnt really matter^^ the only thing I lost now is my Stamina.. like 20+ already

I still using 0.81 rapier while most other 1H players already using 0.82~0.83 rapier (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)


still wait & see what will happen in 0.84 patch before decide to change it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

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