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May 3 2014, 13:52
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(kaihou45 @ May 3 2014, 13:28)  can i ask how high the pxp of an equip needed to yield high grade materials?
common word is that PXP > 321 have a reasonable chance to get HG if shrined, others say 325... however, we're still speaking of exq equips. you may want to try also with superiors, but it's unlikely... QUOTE(Unidentified @ May 3 2014, 13:38)  I am a long time lurker, recent donor (=w=) and would like to ask for some advice. With my limited comprehension after reading the EH-Wiki on the HentaiVerse, I have leveled up to level 56 within the time span of about 2 weeks (which is quite slow compared to the others on the board). After reading through the topics and comments on this board, I think I must have done something wrong. I play at the difficulty level HELL using the Dual Wielding style and Light Armor. Superior Shortsword of SwiftnessAverage Shortsword of BalanceAverage Leather Helmet of ProtectionAverage Leather Breastplate of ProtectionAverage Leather Gauntlets of DampeningSuperior Leather Leggings of ProtectionAverage Shade Boots of the FleetI uses dual wielding because I think it sounds cool (without any logical reasons) and tend to focus my stats on STR and AGI. My routine is to either go to the Arena or Grindfest then fight while alternating between Cure, Protection and Iris Strike. I rely on Heroic Health Pots for most of the time and would use Spirit Stance after I uses all my HP Pots. After all options are exhausted, I would Flee. I also recently donated (the first time since registering) and gained an large amount of credits (1M which is large from my perspective of usually having only about 20k tops for many years). I hope to spend some on some equipments to help speed up my leveling. Could you give me some guidance on how to continue playing? Should I buy the Exquisite/Magnificent Equips with Ethereal/Shade prefixes? I would like to do the Arena/Item World/Grindfest most of the time and possibly increase my difficulty modifier ><. Thank you for your guidance. well, with your budget you can surely build a nice set, but if i were you i'd remain in sup/exq range for now. if you plan to keep on using DW, i suggest you to switch your main sword with an axe for more damage/club for stun effect (both of slaughter), while as offhand you may keep a shortsowrd of balance (maybe sup/exq quality (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) ). as for armors, a full set of 4PABs exq leather should serve you good for now, really no need to go for shade imo: as for now, you should train some levels of adept learner btw... [edit]: other hints: allocate regen/haste as soon as you can and NEVER, EVER train assimilator (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) This post has been edited by Scremaz: May 3 2014, 13:55
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May 3 2014, 14:04
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catdrag0n
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I'd focus my cash on training (Adept Learner and pack rat, keep enough abilities point to max every ability you need for melee) and profit from the free shop to make myself a complete superior shade set with a club of slaughter with good stun% or an axe of slaughter with high damage. Rapier with good parry in offhand (nimble or balance). Go for sup. ethereal ones, they're easy to find and cheap/free.
Shadowdancer is the priority, choose as many with 3 PAB (STR+DEX+END) as you can (try to have END on almost all of them), you can also go with 1 or 2 Fleet ones, if they have good evade and 3 PAB. You can also request for one exquisite (take a good look at the rules of the shop, they're a bit tricky).
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May 3 2014, 14:08
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boulay
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QUOTE(Unidentified @ May 3 2014, 13:38)  I am a long time lurker, recent donor (=w=) and would like to ask for some advice.
With my limited comprehension after reading the EH-Wiki on the HentaiVerse, I have leveled up to level 56 within the time span of about 2 weeks (which is quite slow compared to the others on the board). After reading through the topics and comments on this board, I think I must have done something wrong.
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I'll add that you should fill the mana/spirit tank and better mana potions abilities (and unlock the ability slots to put them on). It should help improve your survivablity too...
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May 3 2014, 14:20
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Colman
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QUOTE(something @ May 3 2014, 18:05)  long story short, i wouldn't recommend using this strategy with longsword/katana unless it's a damn good one (at least mmax damage + max bleed + forged + IW10) and you play on a difficulty where you can kill enemies in less than 12 turns after casting FRD.
If you need 12 turn or more after FRD I recommend you switch to 1H.
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May 3 2014, 14:42
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(catdrag0n @ May 3 2014, 14:04)  take a good look at the rules of the shop, they're a bit tricky
exactly in which point(s), if i can ask? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) we do our best to try and make them as easy to understand as possible, and also make a post everytime we do major changes, but if that's not enough tell us where we're in fault. making a post here if you don't want to go too much off-topic in this thread is also good. This post has been edited by Scremaz: May 3 2014, 14:52
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May 3 2014, 14:49
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Hahhaa @ May 3 2014, 14:42)  I just start using 1H. Need opinion from expert. Planning to IW one of these 2 shield. And maybe sell the other. Exquisite Cobalt Force Shield of Warding Magnificent Force Shield of Dampening The exq have 1% more block while Mag have better PABs. Which one is better? Thanks block is the main thing to watch in a shield, and besides the difference in PABs isn't so great... i'd choose the exq one, even though that crushing mitigation may sound tempting... btw, is it only me or actually heavy armors lack crushing mitigation if compared to slashing and piercing?
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May 3 2014, 15:00
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tempasdf
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QUOTE(Unidentified @ May 3 2014, 14:38)  I am a long time lurker, recent donor (=w=) and would like to ask for some advice.
With my limited comprehension after reading the EH-Wiki on the HentaiVerse, I have leveled up to level 56 within the time span of about 2 weeks (which is quite slow compared to the others on the board). After reading through the topics and comments on this board, I think I must have done something wrong.
with Gold Star everything becomes simpler and it is possible to reach Level 300 in ten days and then be able to comfortable playing in any game style so for now, talking about the distribution of credits will be better for you to invest in xp150, ap65 pr10, ia1 for sol, and superior equipment - 1x Innate Arcana (at Level 100) - 150x Adept Learner - 65x Ability Boost - 10x Pack Rat gradually.. as Gold Star you can forget about drop & other trainings before Level 250 speaking about gaming moments, better to turn to ehwiki.org and personal experience with cheap equipment try everything, good luck and have fun ^^
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May 3 2014, 15:04
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kos9494
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QUOTE(something @ May 3 2014, 18:05)  as it turns out that longsword was a bit too weak, plus i had this katana lying around so i figured it would do just as well. did the same 48 round IW from before with the same armors. long story short, i wouldn't recommend using this strategy with longsword/katana unless it's a damn good one (at least mmax damage + max bleed + forged + IW10) and you play on a difficulty where you can kill enemies in less than 12 turns after casting FRD. you get less damage when recasting FRD thanks to no PA, and bleed procs every other turn thanks to higher attack speed. for reference, i could only use this strategy on nintendo IW with the above katana welp, back to DW i go (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Say if you get SS 4~5 on DW both hands, is it possible for you to get infinite FRD? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) Edited: And yes, just got my LotD to 17 and Mag. is starting to drop like grapes (like almost one per arena page not sure if I'm just lucky o.0). So if I get to ~24 is it possible to get a Leg. or is the drop chance of Leg. not affected by LotD? This post has been edited by kos9494: May 3 2014, 15:07
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May 3 2014, 15:06
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Hahhaa
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Heavy armor have lower crushing mitigation than slashing and piercing. my arnor stat have each almost twice fewer crushing mitigation than slashing and piercing. But when all add up (multiply?), it doesn't make much difference With Maq shield; 25.2 % Crushing 30.2 % Slashing 28.6 % Piercing
With Exq shield 20.3 % Crushing The other remains the same.
This post has been edited by Hahhaa: May 3 2014, 15:08
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May 3 2014, 15:12
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Colman
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QUOTE(Hahhaa @ May 3 2014, 21:06)  Heavy armor have lower crushing mitigation than slashing and piercing. my arnor stat have each almost twice fewer crushing mitigation than slashing and piercing. But when all add up (multiply?), it doesn't make much difference With Maq shield; 25.2 % Crushing 30.2 % Slashing 28.6 % Piercing
With Exq shield 20.3 % Crushing The other remains the same.
1H heavy do not need to care PMI at all. The shield will make you safe. You only need to rise your Attack damage. And magic resist/MMI to reduce one-shot.
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May 3 2014, 15:14
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Colman @ May 3 2014, 15:12)  1H heavy do not need to care PMI at all. The shield will make you safe. You only need to rise your Attack damage. And magic resist/MMI to reduce one-shot.
so warding-suffixed armor should be better than protection-suffixed ones?
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May 3 2014, 15:15
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kos9494
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QUOTE(Colman @ May 3 2014, 21:12)  1H heavy do not need to care PMI at all. The shield will make you safe. You only need to rise your Attack damage. And magic resist/MMI to reduce one-shot.
Is Block really that OP? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) I'm under the impression that Block is fucking more OP and Evasion is shit. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) This post has been edited by kos9494: May 3 2014, 15:15
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May 3 2014, 15:17
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malkatmp
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QUOTE(Colman @ May 3 2014, 15:12)  1H heavy do not need to care PMI at all. The shield will make you safe. You only need to rise your Attack damage. And magic resist/MMI to reduce one-shot.
but if you don't hv a decent enough sheild, Giants can still hurt you. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) QUOTE(kos9494 @ May 3 2014, 15:15)  Is Block really that OP? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) I'm under the impression that Block is fucking more OP and Evasion is shit. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Block = more Overcharge + potential counters. Evasion = no Overcharge & counters. at least, that's for 1H. This post has been edited by malkatmp: May 3 2014, 15:19
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May 3 2014, 15:17
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(kos9494 @ May 3 2014, 15:15)  Is Block really that OP? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) I'm under the impression that Block is fucking more OP and Evasion is shit. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) evade processes before block, so it's still good to have it. the only matter is that evade won't reward you counter, thus overcharge
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May 3 2014, 15:18
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Colman
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ May 3 2014, 21:14)  so warding-suffixed armor should be better than protection-suffixed ones?
Between protection and warding, yes. However, you should always aim for slaughter/balance. This post has been edited by Colman: May 3 2014, 15:18
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May 3 2014, 15:19
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Colman @ May 3 2014, 15:18)  Between protection and warding, yes. However, you should always aim for slaughter/balance.
and to think that i'm opting to switch from two slaughters to two wardings, and almost never calculated to have balance (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) This post has been edited by Scremaz: May 3 2014, 15:19
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May 3 2014, 15:22
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Cats Lover
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QUOTE(Hahhaa @ May 3 2014, 22:06)  Heavy armor have lower crushing mitigation than slashing and piercing. my arnor stat have each almost twice fewer crushing mitigation than slashing and piercing. But when all add up (multiply?), it doesn't make much difference
They are added multiplicatively as you mentioned. And if you set abilities about heavy armors (Heavy Crush, Heavy Prcg, and Heavy Slsh) maxed, they'll gives 0.05% per your Heavy proficiency. That means you will get 278 * 0.05 = 13.9% basically if you have 278 Heavy proficiency. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) About the 1H & Block, that's why I can equip 5 power slaughters with relying on a high-block decent shield. And that's why I only care about ADB (+STR+DEX sure but ADB is the primary one) of power slaughter. This post has been edited by Cats Lover: May 3 2014, 15:31
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May 3 2014, 15:41
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something
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QUOTE(kos9494 @ May 3 2014, 09:04)  Say if you get SS 4~5 on DW both hands, is it possible for you to get infinite FRD? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) Edited: And yes, just got my LotD to 17 and Mag. is starting to drop like grapes (like almost one per arena page not sure if I'm just lucky o.0). So if I get to ~24 is it possible to get a Leg. or is the drop chance of Leg. not affected by LotD? tried it by going waki/rapier in my sig. it's almost possible with 34.4% attack speed(random OC gain screws you sometimes) on all difficulties except PFUDOR. you'd probably need close to 40% for that. fucking mob speed bonus (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) and most people start seeing legs at around 22 LotD completely unrelated: with waki/rapier my parry is 70% (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
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May 3 2014, 16:35
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kos9494
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QUOTE(something @ May 3 2014, 21:41)  tried it by going waki/rapier in my sig. it's almost possible with 34.4% attack speed(random OC gain screws you sometimes) on all difficulties except PFUDOR. you'd probably need close to 40% for that. fucking mob speed bonus (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) and most people start seeing legs at around 22 LotD completely unrelated: with waki/rapier my parry is 70% (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) Once I got FRD, might try out double shortsword of swiftness style and IW a SS 4~5 on both of them. and see. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) This post has been edited by kos9494: May 3 2014, 16:36
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