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Apr 20 2014, 09:00
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Usagi =
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Hey, guys, so does heartseeker increases damage by 25% regardless of levels? Because in the abilities page, it just shows that it modifies crit damage values.
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Apr 20 2014, 10:19
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HedonisticFruitcake
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The Base ability modifies only damage and crit chance, getting the better heartseeker adds the crit damage modifier, which to my understanding applies after the 25% additional damage.
And for my own question: Now that I'm getting closer to late game I'm getting more concerned with getting good gear. To improve my chances of getting said gear I'm looking at my training Scavenger, Luck of the Draw, and Quartermaster. So far I've been keeping them relatively equal, but in terms of getting important late game gear, which is the most important to max out first or do they each having a similar level of importance?
This post has been edited by surron: Apr 20 2014, 10:34
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Apr 20 2014, 10:34
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Usagi =
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QUOTE(surron @ Apr 20 2014, 16:19)  The Base ability modifies only damage and crit chance, getting the better heartseeker adds the crit damage modifier, which to my understanding applies after the 25% additional damage.
Oh okay, thanks. QUOTE(surron @ Apr 20 2014, 16:19)  And for my own question: Now that I'm getting closer to late game I'm getting more concerned with getting good gear. To improve my chances of getting said gear I'm looking at my training Scavenger, Luck of the Draw, and Quartermaster. So far I've been keeping them relatively equal, but in terms of getting important late gear, which is the most important to max out first or do they each having a similar level of importance?
Personally, I'd save cash for the auctions rather than depending on drops and thus I think trainings should be done moderately when you have extra cash.
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Apr 20 2014, 10:43
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something
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QUOTE(surron @ Apr 20 2014, 04:19)  The Base ability modifies only damage and crit chance, getting the better heartseeker adds the crit damage modifier, which to my understanding applies after the 25% additional damage.
And for my own question: Now that I'm getting closer to late game I'm getting more concerned with getting good gear. To improve my chances of getting said gear I'm looking at my training Scavenger, Luck of the Draw, and Quartermaster. So far I've been keeping them relatively equal, but in terms of getting important late gear, which is the most important to max out first or do they each having a similar level of importance?
for getting rare equips it goes something like: becoming strong enough to play on PFUDOR regularly(this means level up + buy better equips)>LoTD>>>>>quartermaster>doing nothing>scavenger scavenger increases all drop chances but not as much as quartermaster for equips. it's really only good for when you can do hellfests everyday and want to max the amount of crystals you can get from it. having a bunch of LoTD/quartermaster is pointless if you can't play on PFUDOR regularly, and you won't be able to play on PFUDOR regularly without some good equips
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Apr 20 2014, 10:52
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HedonisticFruitcake
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But doesn't quartermaster only raise your base gear drop chance, whereas scavenger increases your total loot drop chance and since equipment drop is a percentage of your loot drop chance wouldn't leveling scavenger also increase the usefulness of quartermaster?
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Apr 20 2014, 10:55
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treesloth
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QUOTE(surron @ Apr 20 2014, 17:52)  But doesn't quartermaster only raise your base gear drop chance, whereas scavenger increases your total loot drop chance and since equipment drop is a percentage of your loot drop chance wouldn't leveling scavenger also increase the usefulness of quartermaster?
scavenger only raises max drops from 10% to 12.5%. So it's up to you if you want to spend millions getting that extra 2.5%......
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Apr 20 2014, 10:59
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ferociousmoon
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hi everyone. i really need help. i play this for a while now, but i keep feeling that i somewhat underpowered. can anyone guide me on how to improve my char and equipment? thanks a lot below, i include links to my stats and equipment. hope someone somehow help me. [ imgur.com] http://imgur.com/n1wKsDE[ imgur.com] http://imgur.com/4PrkfwM
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Apr 20 2014, 11:06
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something
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QUOTE(surron @ Apr 20 2014, 04:52)  But doesn't quartermaster only raise your base gear drop chance, whereas scavenger increases your total loot drop chance and since equipment drop is a percentage of your loot drop chance wouldn't leveling scavenger also increase the usefulness of quartermaster?
not by as much. my numbers are probably off but: 1 level of scavenger gives +~0.0044% chance for equip drops overall 1 level of quartermaster gives +~0.013% chance for equip drops overall, which is more than double ask LostLogia for exact numbers since it's his (outdated)spreadsheet i'm using to get these numbers This post has been edited by something: Apr 20 2014, 11:09
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Apr 20 2014, 11:17
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Colman
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AFAIK Max scavenger +2.5% drop chance. It mean the actual drop chance is increased from 10% > 12.5% without the bonus form high PL monster. If the PL bonus maxed out (monsters with PL1250+), the drop rate is from 25% > 27.5%. Each level of scavenger only increase a very small drop rate, and I would not recommend anyone to train it when the training cost is similar to the equipment upgrade cost.
On the other hand, max Quartermaster can double you equipment drop chance. If your equipment drop is good in average, it can be self-paying soon.
Some players have mentioned that the numbers (2.5% and double) are not accuracy, but it should not be too far away from the actual value.
This post has been edited by Colman: Apr 20 2014, 11:18
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Apr 20 2014, 11:20
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n125
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QUOTE(surron @ Apr 20 2014, 01:19)  And for my own question: Now that I'm getting closer to late game I'm getting more concerned with getting good gear. To improve my chances of getting said gear I'm looking at my training Scavenger, Luck of the Draw, and Quartermaster. So far I've been keeping them relatively equal, but in terms of getting important late game gear, which is the most important to max out first or do they each having a similar level of importance?
Luck of the Draw and Quartermaster. You can get Scavenger to 35~40 rather cheaply, and that's sufficient. But what is equally important when it comes to finding good equipment, is being able to clear the three schoolgirl marathons, FSM, and TT&T on PFUDOR, as well as being able to clear Grindfest on at least Hell difficulty. To be honest, if you're looking at improving your equipment now, I recommend saving your money and spending it in WTS. Even with max loot trainings, finding forge-worthy equipment that you can actually use yourself is almost unrealistic.
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Apr 20 2014, 11:24
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malkatmp
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QUOTE(ferociousmoon @ Apr 20 2014, 10:59)  hi everyone. i really need help. i play this for a while now, but i keep feeling that i somewhat underpowered. can anyone guide me on how to improve my char and equipment? thanks a lot below, i include links to my stats and equipment. hope someone somehow help me. [ imgur.com] http://imgur.com/n1wKsDE[ imgur.com] http://imgur.com/4PrkfwM2H+heavy is not that good. also, 1-2 Primary Attribute Bonus (PAB) is not good either. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) if you like heavy, you can try 1H (Rapier slaughter + force shield) + power. check out the free shop in WTS section. if not, you can buy some decent 3PAB Superior power things for ~5k in WTS. 10-50k can get you some good Exquisite. also, max pack rat, try to keep your Str/Dex/Agi/End stats more even. Int/Wis can lag behind a bit. ps. since most of your stuff don't drop anymore, they become collectibles now.
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Apr 20 2014, 11:24
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holy_demon
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I'm not sure about the timezone. Is the deadline for easter event tonight or tomorrow?
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Apr 20 2014, 11:27
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malkatmp
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Apr 20 2014, 11:30
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ferociousmoon
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QUOTE(malkatmp @ Apr 20 2014, 17:24)  2H+heavy is not that good. also, 1-2 Primary Attribute Bonus (PAB) is not good either. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) if you like heavy, you can try 1H (Rapier slaughter + force shield) + power. check out the free shop in WTS section. if not, you can buy some decent 3PAB Superior power things for ~5k in WTS. 10-50k can get you some good Exquisite. also, max pack rat, try to keep your Str/Dex/Agi/End stats more even. Int/Wis can lag behind a bit. ps. since most of your stuff don't drop anymore, they become collectibles now. so from what u explained, if i want to play 2h, i should play light armor instead? what is 3PAB? im sorry, because im really really noob in this (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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Apr 20 2014, 11:31
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Caia
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QUOTE(malkatmp @ Apr 20 2014, 17:27)  also, is HV down for anyone? Seems to be fine for me.
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Apr 20 2014, 11:35
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Usagi =
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QUOTE(malkatmp @ Apr 20 2014, 17:27)  It was, but its up now for me. I hope TenB gives up something special as in something with practical uses this easter instead of another StonyCat Cash Voucher. Like a gem you can use on a equip to boost a chosen stat by n% or maybe one that let's you change an equip's elemental strike or maybe even something that gives you 1 new special spell of your choosing.
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Apr 20 2014, 11:39
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malkatmp
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QUOTE(ferociousmoon @ Apr 20 2014, 11:30)  so from what u explained, if i want to play 2h, i should play light armor instead?
yes. for someone on a budget, you can get some great Leather stuff. if you want to spend some credits (or in the FreeShop) shade stuff are pretty good too. QUOTE what is 3PAB? im sorry, because im really really noob in this (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) PAB = primary attribute bonus (ie Str/Dex/Agi/etc Stats) more on the wiki
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Apr 20 2014, 11:43
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varst
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QUOTE(ferociousmoon @ Apr 20 2014, 17:30)  so from what u explained, if i want to play 2h, i should play light armor instead?
IMO 2H + heavy isn't that bad, but you need something more protective (like plate) at your level. Power or protection is bad for now players as it lacks offensive capability (ADB) and gives less physical mitigation. Also, try to use an ethereal mace if you want to play on higher difficulty, or use 1H + force shield with high block chance. Bleeding weapon is good for grinding on lower difficulty, but it costs tons of stamina and you get a drop penalty if you play more than 1000 rounds below hell daily, so I'd recommend leveling up first with something else. This post has been edited by varst: Apr 20 2014, 11:46
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Apr 20 2014, 11:49
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boulay
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QUOTE(malkatmp @ Apr 20 2014, 11:24)  2H+heavy is not that good.
Heresy! (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) QUOTE(ferociousmoon @ Apr 20 2014, 11:30)  so from what u explained, if i want to play 2h, i should play light armor instead? what is 3PAB? im sorry, because im really really noob in this (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) PAB stands for primary attribute bonus. HV was a little down for me too, but it worked fine with alt.hentaiverse (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Apr 20 2014, 11:51
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Cleavs
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wow, you're here today as well... don't know exact timezones/cultures but happy easter to everyone who likes to think about it, and good day/lunch/whatever to all the others! (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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