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post Jan 11 2014, 18:51
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QUOTE(Colman @ Jan 11 2014, 17:28) *

DW power is the fastest way to do PF SG DwD for melee AFAIK, assume you do not need to worry about hp. I think Nobody_xxx have more experience about it but it seem he is not around.

Nice, that's what I was planning to use it for. I guess Vigorous Vitality will be my next target.
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post Jan 11 2014, 19:36
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is Arena on high difficulty the only/fastest way to gain EXP & high level equip?

I stopped going in item world, Ring of Blood (beside first clearing) and grindfests

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post Jan 11 2014, 19:45
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QUOTE(www.www @ Jan 12 2014, 01:36) *

is Arena on high difficulty the only/fastest way to gain EXP & high level equip?

I stopped going in item world, Ring of Blood (beside first clearing) and grindfests

I think PF GF give better equipment in average in the current patch.
My (around) 10 PF TTT (RoB) in this patch give me 60% sup, 40% exq (non rare) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) .
Not even a single Mag (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) .
Any arena below T&T do not give good equip, and sometimes the arena clear bonus is a potion (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) .

PF DwD give good exp, but it is too long for me. Not sure how its drop bonus as I do not play it recently.

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post Jan 11 2014, 19:47
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QUOTE(Colman @ Jan 11 2014, 18:45) *

I think PF GF give better equipment in average in the current patch.
My (around) 10 PF TTT (RoB) in this patch give me 60% sup, 40% exq (non rare) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) .
Not even a single Mag (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) .
Any arena below T&T do not give good equip, and sometimes the arena clear bonus is a potion (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) .

PF DwD give good exp, but it is too long for me. Not sure how its drop bonus as I do not play it recently.


thank you, long way before i open DwD as an option
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post Jan 11 2014, 19:51
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QUOTE(www.www @ Jan 11 2014, 09:36) *

is Arena on high difficulty the only/fastest way to gain EXP & high level equip?

I stopped going in item world, Ring of Blood (beside first clearing) and grindfests


Item World gives pretty-much the same XP per monster as the first page Arenas... but the first few Arenas beat out IW because of the clear bonus credits.

Most people, after reaching 200, save their Tokens of Blood for Noodles, which sell well.

Grindfests, on anything less than Hell difficulty, actually hurt your income potential due to the cummulative low difficulty penalty.

tldr; Yes, Arena on high (Hell+) difficulty is the fastest way to get EXP & gear.
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post Jan 11 2014, 20:05
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cummulative low difficulty penalty.

what is that? or you mean just stamina draining?
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post Jan 11 2014, 20:09
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QUOTE(Owyn @ Jan 12 2014, 02:05) *

what is that? or you mean just stamina draining?

Drop chance will drop shapely after 1000 round if you play below Hell difficulty.

BTW, a good thing about GF over arena is that you do not need to worry dying. However, you get less credit (cash) in a time-wise manner.

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post Jan 11 2014, 20:15
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Drop chance will drop shapely after 1000 round if you play below Hell difficulty.

Nope, even if I clear all available areans on normal on 2nd page of arenas I won't get it ;p
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post Jan 11 2014, 20:17
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QUOTE(Owyn @ Jan 12 2014, 02:15) *

Nope, even if I clear all available areans on normal on 2nd page of arenas I won't get it ;p

And the round counter will not regen when you are in battle. So, you need to clear the battle fast to have ~1000 round per day without drop penalty.
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post Jan 11 2014, 20:19
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Nope, even if I clear all available areans on normal on 2nd page of arenas I won't get it ;p


It only affects GF, not arena runs.
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post Jan 11 2014, 20:31
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QUOTE(HNTI @ Jan 11 2014, 21:19) *

It only affects GF, not arena runs.


What about IW?
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post Jan 11 2014, 20:38
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It only affects GF, not arena runs.

but GF still drains stamina like hell, right?
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post Jan 11 2014, 21:17
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QUOTE(ankwchi @ Jan 11 2014, 10:40) *

Had a break from Hentaiverse, so now I got some mage questions. I'm an ice mage with IA II.

1. For credits are 2-4 arenas at higher difficulty better or a lot of arenas at lower difficulty?

2. Are proficiency gear worth it for the counter-resist or will I lose to much damage compared to EDB gear?

3. Anything I could change to get better (current gear crap, acceptable, good)?

4. Are my gears good enough for forge or not?

5. Is Economizer still the best for mages? Archmage vs Penetration?

6. For The Trio and the Tree in IWBTH I need ~45 min. as ice mage, good or bad?


1. Personally I would go for lot of arenas. More rounds = more artifacts, more tokens even if cash is about same.
2. Never tried cotton, but what everypony said - dont use cotton.
3. I think its good, but honestly, only you can figure it out. For mage gear is good if you can run smoothly the difficulty you want within the time limitation you want.
4. Within the latest patch Item Worlding became somewhat not so tedious, so i would sure do level up each and every piece first. About forging - depends on your funds, but probably worth investing some?
5. Check [Discuss] What potency a mage would prefer? topic, maybe it would help.
6. IMHO its a good time (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) And can always aim for better (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
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post Jan 11 2014, 21:58
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switched from a leather to a full shade of arcanist set...
except for the specific and piercing mitigations not so bad for a bunch of 2PABs-equips i'd say...

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post Jan 11 2014, 22:10
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QUOTE(Owyn @ Jan 11 2014, 21:15) *

Nope, even if I clear all available areans on normal on 2nd page of arenas I won't get it ;p



QUOTE(HNTI @ Jan 11 2014, 21:19) *

It only affects GF, not arena runs.


It affects every battle mode.

http://ehwiki.org/wiki/loot_drop_chance#Occurrences
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post Jan 11 2014, 22:18
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QUOTE(erwtsnert @ Jan 11 2014, 21:10) *

Oh, thanks for the reminder.
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post Jan 11 2014, 22:20
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QUOTE(ankwchi @ Jan 11 2014, 08:40) *

Had a break from Hentaiverse, so now I got some mage questions. I'm an ice mage with IA II.

1. For credits are 2-4 arenas at higher difficulty better or a lot of arenas at lower difficulty?
4. Are my gears good enough for forge or not?
5. Is Economizer still the best for mages?
6. For The Trio and the Tree in IWBTH I need ~45 min. as ice mage, good or bad?

Current stats and gear:

1. If we're talking efficiency in a certain timeframe, it depends on you / gear / clear speed. It will be different for most people, but try a few calculations from runs yourself.

On hell vs normal, you're supposed to nominally get 75% more credits. BUT if it takes you more 75% longer to finish a hell arena vs normal, normal would turn out better. If stamina is priority, then higher difficulty would be better.

and one thing i also noticed was due to the min price of gear, difficulty didn't help much for bazaaring trash gears (for the lower difficulties). I actually got more from a day of normal arena then a day of hell arena at times.

4. the hat, not the others.
5. yes
6. not sure about your ping and how fast maging should be, but for over level 300, that's kinda slow.
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post Jan 11 2014, 23:27
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Colman: Small correction: It stocks up to 1000, but it regens faster so if you finished rounds in nanoseconds you could get up to 1666 rounds per day, unhampered. So it is possible to do all arenas(~1200 rounds), just have to space them out.

Owyn: Nope, was removed when GF was merged with CF
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post Jan 12 2014, 02:07
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So when people go 1H+Shield, do they tend to go with an Axe/Shortsword of Slaughter or something to maximize damage?

Would something like a Rapier of the Nimble for higher parry and more chance to counter-attack and stun work?

Or Club of Slaughter?
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post Jan 12 2014, 02:29
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I shouldn't bother with the monster lab until I'm higher level, right?
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