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post Mar 26 2013, 07:35
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QUOTE(hujan86 @ Mar 26 2013, 12:38) *

Seriously? It's horrible? To think that I planned to buy it... What about needaname's rapier? Is it any better?
OK, I understand now.

only parry stat that little low (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
overall it is a good rapier (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Mar 26 2013, 07:36
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QUOTE(aurabolt @ Mar 25 2013, 16:11) *
Anyway, everything looks great to me.

QUOTE(T_Starrk @ Mar 25 2013, 18:48) *
The rapier is horrible.

Dang, I should start using scripts—that's what happens when I try to eyeball it because I'm too lazy to manually calculate base stats for other people's equipment.

QUOTE(hujan86 @ Mar 25 2013, 21:38) *
What about needaname's rapier? Is it any better?

Accuracy's base is 1.17 under the maximum for Superiors, Penetrated Armor lasts for 6 turns, Parry is the same as irvin123455's, and it has all four attributes—although Endurance is really low. Compare those to what Starrk recommended.

QUOTE(T_Starrk @ Mar 25 2013, 18:48) *
Try to find one with at least superior max accuracy, 6-7 turns on the proc, higher parry, and four PABs.

Also, needaname needs to come back—I'm bored here now.

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post Mar 26 2013, 09:11
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QUOTE(aurabolt @ Mar 26 2013, 15:36) *

Also, needaname needs to come back—I'm bored here now.

Hmm, that suggests that needaname does *something* for you the rest of us don't... I wonder what that could be... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Mar 26 2013, 09:50
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QUOTE(Lement @ Mar 25 2013, 18:11) *

And make sure it's ethereal too!


Doesn't necessarily have to be ethereal with heavy armor. It helps though. You try to put together a heavy set with decent PMI and two non-ethereal weapons all while keeping burden under 75 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) .

QUOTE(Lement @ Mar 25 2013, 18:11) *

EDIT: in other words, T_Starrk you're making your style not look very good...


It doesn't matter. It's all about how much time, money, and effort you put into your style and set-up anyway. My light set can out last and kill faster than my heavy set with the same weapons. Besides, I can only get 60% crit from my light set.

QUOTE(hujan86 @ Mar 25 2013, 20:38) *

Seriously? It's horrible? To think that I planned to buy it... What about needaname's rapier? Is it any better?


The proc alone makes it a lot better. It's max proc turns for a rapier (becomes 7 turns at level 320), not to mention 24%. Also, that accuracy is high enough, it would give me 75% off-hand at my level and the off-hand would increase by 1% with about every 4 forges (it's near the lowest accuracy you would want to pick though). 4 PABs are good also. Problem is the crit and parry, but good rapier's are hard to find, it is already a nice one with just the proc and accuracy. And yes, that's the rapier needaname always gets bugged about.

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post Mar 26 2013, 09:57
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QUOTE(T_Starrk @ Mar 26 2013, 07:48) *

The rapier is horrible.

.) Thanks. I know. But it still best rapier that i can find. Also i plan to find Mithril Power, so it is ethereal.
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post Mar 26 2013, 12:45
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1. What should be my priority when upgrading my monster with Chaos Tokens? Affection first before upgrading other attributes?

2. During a random encounter, should I cast Weaken on every monster first then kill them? Or, cast Weaken on single monster first and kill it as fast as possible, then repeat on other monsters?

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post Mar 26 2013, 12:55
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QUOTE(hujan86 @ Mar 26 2013, 03:45) *

1. What should my priority when upgrading my monster with Chaos Tokens? Affection first before upgrading other attributes?


After Affection I don't think it really matters. I just get whatever upgrade is available, or go down the list if more than one upgrade is available. Alternatively, you can just get Affection and save your Chaos Tokens for the next monster.

QUOTE(hujan86 @ Mar 26 2013, 03:45) *
2. During a random encounter, should I cast Weaken on every monster first then kill them? Or, cast Weaken on single monster first and kill it as fast as possible, then repeat on other monsters?


If you absolutely need to use Weaken during a Random Encounter, cast it on the monsters that you know are dangerous first, then do whatever. It just depends on what you can handle, really; if you're still having trouble, then tag the remainder with Weaken; otherwise, just finish the round. At level 200 you get X-Nerf, which makes this a little easier. Sometimes you might want to cast Silence as well; for example, assuming you are a melee with low MMIT, if you have Bottle Fairy or Celestia Lindwurm (can you face those yet..?) lingering around while you work on killing other monsters, then you might want to cast Silence on them so they can't use their magic-based attacks against you.
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post Mar 26 2013, 13:04
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Hi, it's me again with more questions.


1)For grinding EXP, which of these options is more efficient WITHOUT USING ENERGY DRINKS?
Should I stop at 80 Stamina or should I keep going till it reaches 20 Stamina?


2)What are the advanced stat requirements for the higher-end endurance Arenas? (ie need xx base str/dex/agi to survive 100+ rounds)
How much is the minimum mitigation/evade/parry/resist should I have when attempting these on NIGHTMARE?
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post Mar 26 2013, 13:19
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Turn up difficulty if you are running that many rounds, maximize that +50% exp in the first 20 stam, probably most efficient use of time.
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post Mar 26 2013, 16:00
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QUOTE(letmegitdat @ Mar 24 2013, 23:23) *

@malenk

I can do it on normal with no pots if I micromanage it, 1-2 pot of i just spam. and I have City™ gear (see sig).

add the fact that you can bring 3 more pots than me... you should be able to do hard without trouble



QUOTE(ahenayau @ Mar 25 2013, 03:12) *

go for heroic first (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
after that try to finish schoolgirls marathons at more higher difficulty (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)


in the end i went for hard for my first attempt.
letmegitdat, i don't quite get how you can clear that arena, just spamming with only 2 pots.
i tried spamming and it took me 11 potions.
true, i went for hard, but monsters' health is just 1.5 times what they have at normal and i could oneshot the earliest waves most of the times anyway, so even with more mana conservation (i have just 5% right now) it doesn't quite add up. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

today i went for heroic and it took all 13 of them, and i was trying to save mana along the way getting ET procs (4 turns) and focusing.

it feels like a waste of stamina and time doing arenas just at heroic level, so i think i will finally do what i was thinking of doing for a while: getting a melee setup.
thinking of going for estoc/heavy setup.
i will still improve my caster setup (and play caster in 200 and lower arenas), but i feel that even getting a better setup won't let me go higher than nightmare at level 220+ arenas unless i spend really, really a lot.


oh btw, how much stronger is FSM at IWBTH than BT?
i can take it down with no problems at BT using like 4 potions and according to the wiki IWBTH version should have double the health than BT so i should be able to kick his noodly ass.
does the damage stay the same or it goes up as well?
i don't want to waste 3 tokens of blood in a failed attempt. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Mar 26 2013, 16:20
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QUOTE(Malenk @ Mar 27 2013, 00:00) *

oh btw, how much stronger is FSM at IWBTH than BT?
i can take it down with no problems at BT using like 4 potions and according to the wiki IWBTH version should have double the health than BT so i should be able to kick his noodly ass.
does the damage stay the same or it goes up as well?
i don't want to waste 3 tokens of blood in a failed attempt. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

20% increase in damage.

Once Silence + Weaken are procured, FSM is a pushover.
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post Mar 26 2013, 16:59
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QUOTE(xmagus @ Mar 26 2013, 17:20) *

20% increase in damage.

Once Silence + Weaken are procured, FSM is a pushover.


well if the increase is just 20% i don't even need weaken.
my deprecating proficiency is low so it would be a pain in the ass to keep him under 3 effects all the time.

at BT he never even came close to popping my SoL (i think he never took more than 1/3 of my health with a single hit and most of the time regen2 was enough to keep me full) so i think imperil will help me more.

well today i already killed him so i'll try tomorrow.
thanks.
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post Mar 26 2013, 17:01
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QUOTE(hujan86 @ Mar 26 2013, 02:45) *

1. What should be my priority when upgrading my monster with Chaos Tokens? Affection first before upgrading other attributes?

http://ehwiki.org/wiki/HentaiVerse_Advice#Monster_Lab
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post Mar 26 2013, 18:45
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QUOTE(y-u-no-face111 @ Mar 26 2013, 04:04) *
2)What are the advanced stat requirements for the higher-end endurance Arenas? (ie need xx base str/dex/agi to survive 100+ rounds)
How much is the minimum mitigation/evade/parry/resist should I have when attempting these on NIGHTMARE?

This doesn't actually answer your question, but after you get Spark of Life in a few levels, you should be able to raise your difficulty by one/two levels regardless of your stats.
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post Mar 26 2013, 23:28
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QUOTE(Malenk @ Mar 26 2013, 16:00) *

in the end i went for hard for my first attempt.
letmegitdat, i don't quite get how you can clear that arena, just spamming with only 2 pots.
i tried spamming and it took me 11 potions.
true, i went for hard, but monsters' health is just 1.5 times what they have at normal and i could oneshot the earliest waves most of the times anyway, so even with more mana conservation (i have just 5% right now) it doesn't quite add up. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

today i went for heroic and it took all 13 of them, and i was trying to save mana along the way getting ET procs (4 turns) and focusing.

it feels like a waste of stamina and time doing arenas just at heroic level, so i think i will finally do what i was thinking of doing for a while: getting a melee setup.
thinking of going for estoc/heavy setup.
i will still improve my caster setup (and play caster in 200 and lower arenas), but i feel that even getting a better setup won't let me go higher than nightmare at level 220+ arenas unless i spend really, really a lot.
oh btw, how much stronger is FSM at IWBTH than BT?
i can take it down with no problems at BT using like 4 potions and according to the wiki IWBTH version should have double the health than BT so i should be able to kick his noodly ass.
does the damage stay the same or it goes up as well?
i don't want to waste 3 tokens of blood in a failed attempt. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


i do it with conservation staff(23%+) + absorb, tons of ether tap/focus on mobs. school girls don't hit me hard enough to kill me and I gain mana everytime they cast...

FSM IWBTH isn't hard as long as you have enough mana. the first time I did it I derp'd it, had 5 mana, 2 spirits; used 5 manas 0 spirits, needed 1 more to finish em... underestimated the 12million+ hp... for whatever reason absorb never triggers on FSM...

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post Mar 26 2013, 23:33
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did you weaken+did not silence?
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post Mar 26 2013, 23:36
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mostly imperil, but I forgot to mention it took me about 2-3 hours... because of the browser problems mentioned here: https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=118974

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post Mar 26 2013, 23:42
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letmegitdat: Absorb does trigger on FSM's spirit attack but you won't face those often - and even then nifty fact about absorb is that your own resist is checked first rather than after.
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post Mar 26 2013, 23:46
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How much hp will FSM have on battletoads at my level? (And Void damage still works on him, right?)
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post Mar 26 2013, 23:46
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QUOTE(letmegitdat @ Mar 26 2013, 21:28) *

i do it with conservation staff(23%+) + absorb, tons of ether tap/focus on mobs. school girls don't hit me hard enough to kill me and I gain mana everytime they cast...

FSM IWBTH isn't hard as long as you have enough mana. the first time I did it I derp'd it, had 5 mana, 2 spirits; used 5 manas 0 spirits, needed 1 more to finish em... underestimated the 12million+ hp... for whatever reason absorb never triggers on FSM...


well you said that you can do it at normal "just spamming" with only 1-2 pots.
what you just said is not just spamming but being very carebul about mana.
that's why it didn't add up. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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