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post Jul 2 2010, 17:07
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At your level I suggest you stay on easy or cake and do only Item Worlds and Arenas you know you can beat.
Use your earned credits for training (Scavenger, Quartermaster and Luck of the draw are worth it) and save up for better gear.
For Caking just use your heavy gear. Absorb is the most important stat.

For arenas and higher difficulty your heavy gear won`t do any good. They hit so hard your absorb won`t help and you will take double hits because of your high burden.
Look for some nice evade Silk (don`t use cotton) to fix this.

For more damage you need a better weapon. (of fill overcharge boost)
A rapier with nice proc chance is a good deal. Or a bleeding weapon with high bleed and high proc chance.
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post Jul 2 2010, 18:42
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QUOTE(shiki666 @ Jul 2 2010, 13:51) *

Hi guys can you tell me what I'm doing wrong here? My character keeps losing without at least 2 potions and 10-15 mana for Cure I and this is in the Grindfest.

You always lose the Grindfest, sooner or later... If you told us how many rounds you can last, that would give us a clue as to whether you're actually doing anything wrong.

I'll give you the standard piece of advice though: Don't let INT and WIS fall so far behind. Even if you're not a mage, you still need them for barrier rating and supportive spells,
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post Jul 2 2010, 19:01
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QUOTE(Sayo Aisaka @ Jul 2 2010, 09:42) *

You always lose the Grindfest, sooner or later...

Every point of accuracy I get brings me one step closer to proving you wrong.
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post Jul 2 2010, 19:11
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QUOTE(Boggyb @ Jul 2 2010, 18:01) *

Every point of accuracy I get brings me one step closer to proving you wrong.
So what? It's still impossible to win.
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post Jul 2 2010, 19:34
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So what? It's still impossible to win.

There's a hard limit on the grindfest round number somewhere.
Get 100% accuracy (staff with proficiency/enough wis/int), enough natural regen, and enough damage to take out anyone with 1 hit and we can find out.
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post Jul 2 2010, 19:39
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QUOTE(Golden Sun @ Jul 2 2010, 10:34) *

There's a hard limit on the grindfest round number somewhere.

There isn't.
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post Jul 2 2010, 19:55
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There isn't.

If the number is stored in some integer data type, there is a range of where it can go to. Or if the number gets big enough, there wouldn't be enough space to store it.
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post Jul 2 2010, 20:01
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QUOTE(Golden Sun @ Jul 2 2010, 18:34) *

There's a hard limit on the grindfest round number somewhere.
No, what exist is:
-A time limit where it start to appear a message with a random key to prove you aren't a machine.
-You can only start grindfest 100 times in 100 hours
QUOTE(Golden Sun @ Jul 2 2010, 18:34) *

Get 100% accuracy (staff with proficiency/enough wis/int), enough natural regen, and enough damage to take out anyone with 1 hit and we can find out.
I think Boggyb knows that. What you really need for 100.0% acc are 385 INT/WIS points, no need for acc bonus (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

QUOTE(Golden Sun @ Jul 2 2010, 18:55) *

If the number is stored in some integer data type, there is a range of where it can go to. Or if the number gets big enough, there wouldn't be enough space to store it.
This isn't a hard limit, but a physical limit.


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post Jul 2 2010, 22:42
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QUOTE(Sayo Aisaka @ Jul 2 2010, 18:42) *

You always lose the Grindfest, sooner or later... If you told us how many rounds you can last, that would give us a clue as to whether you're actually doing anything wrong.

I'll give you the standard piece of advice though: Don't let INT and WIS fall so far behind. Even if you're not a mage, you still need them for barrier rating and supportive spells,


Sorry I should have been more specific. I think I was going good for 11-12 rounds in the Grindfest before my potions/mana got depleted but now currently at level 26 with One hand and Shield I can only hold out for maybe 5-6 rounds or 7-8 if I am lucky enough to have scored some Mana Powerups and Second Winds. I could focus more on Int/Wis but what is a good ratio for that? If I devote all my XP to those areas to catch up to my Str/End/Dex/Agi will all fall behind versus my Level number. Is there a winning ratio you use to have a good combo of offense, HP, and defense?

I have been playing on Hard for a while b/c I wanted to level up faster but I am thinking of switching back to Normal/Easy to cool off the Potion usage a bit (I'm running low). The equipment Ichy was talking about (Silk, high proc Rapier) is that something that is dropped from monsters or is that something I would have to buy in the Bazaar (the prices there are very expensive for me). Is it a good idea to get better equipment from loot or buying from Bazaar?

Also what should I spend Ability Points into besides tanking HP/MP/SP? Should it be Overcharge or Weakness? Thanks for the advice its very helpful.
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post Jul 2 2010, 22:45
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Normal gives the best output from input.
I would say just find the best stat distribution for you. Download HV stat, experiment, and see your results.
AP should be into tanking, not SP though. SP is for spark of life/to get to overcharge.
You can get drops, buy from bazaar, but from wts threads.
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post Jul 2 2010, 22:50
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QUOTE(shiki666 @ Jul 2 2010, 22:42) *

Sorry I should have been more specific. I think I was going good for 11-12 rounds in the Grindfest before my potions/mana got depleted but now currently at level 26 with One hand and Shield I can only hold out for maybe 5-6 rounds or 7-8 if I am lucky enough to have scored some Mana Powerups and Second Winds. I could focus more on Int/Wis but what is a good ratio for that? If I devote all my XP to those areas to catch up to my Str/End/Dex/Agi will all fall behind versus my Level number. Is there a winning ratio you use to have a good combo of offense, HP, and defense?

I have been playing on Hard for a while b/c I wanted to level up faster but I am thinking of switching back to Normal/Easy to cool off the Potion usage a bit (I'm running low). The equipment Ichy was talking about (Silk, high proc Rapier) is that something that is dropped from monsters or is that something I would have to buy in the Bazaar (the prices there are very expensive for me). Is it a good idea to get better equipment from loot or buying from Bazaar?

Also what should I spend Ability Points into besides tanking HP/MP/SP? Should it be Overcharge or Weakness? Thanks for the advice its very helpful.

At your level I kept str/dex/Agi/end at my level and only leveled int and wisdom when i had spare exp. Not sure if this was the best choice. My heal sucked and magic hurts a lot.

Equipment can drop from monsters, be bought in the bazaar or in Player shops.
Since you won`t get good drops now I suggest you use the third option.

Don`t play on hard. Long runs on easy/Cake item worlds will give fast exp too and you will get a lot of loot out of it.
More loot > more credits

For now HP/MP tanks are the best thing ever for you.
Once you start fighting bosses get weaken/bewilder/posion
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post Jul 3 2010, 19:25
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I just beat the FSM with Hito's 4 average mana draughts.
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post Jul 3 2010, 20:05
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QUOTE(Boggyb @ Jul 3 2010, 18:25) *

I just beat the FSM with Hito's 4 average mana draughts.
Congrats, although it's the wrong thread.
Bdw how much dark mitigation?

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post Jul 3 2010, 20:09
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QUOTE(cmdct @ Jul 3 2010, 11:05) *

Congrats, although it's the wrong thread.

I disagree. The legendary thread is annoyingly filled with people posting about beating the legendaries using the same strategies everyone else used. That doesn't help anyone.

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Bdw how much dark mitigation?

85.1% dark.
11.5% physical mitigation.
30.6% evasion
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post Jul 3 2010, 20:41
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QUOTE(Boggyb @ Jul 3 2010, 19:09) *

I disagree. The legendary thread is annoyingly filled with people posting about beating the legendaries using the same strategies everyone else used. That doesn't help anyone.
And if people post here instead, isn't the same?
I was referring to this thread, despite in the title only include Arena/Fest achievements, but it should be for all achievements.

Edit: Getting that dark/physical mitigation is not a problem, but that evasion as well I need to level up a lot first...

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post Jul 3 2010, 21:05
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QUOTE(cmdct @ Jul 3 2010, 11:41) *

QUOTE(Boggyb @ Jul 3 2010, 11:09) *

I disagree. The legendary thread is annoyingly filled with people posting about beating the legendaries using the same strategies everyone else used. That doesn't help anyone.

And if people post here instead, isn't the same?

No one ever reads this thread. Ever. (It doesn't help that a lot of the info early on is probably outdated)
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post Jul 3 2010, 21:24
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QUOTE(Boggyb @ Jul 3 2010, 20:05) *

No one ever reads this thread. Ever. (It doesn't help that a lot of the info early on is probably outdated)
Actually some do, but not the whole thread.
Still what you're saying is that this thread is supposed for rookies to ask the same type of questions over and over again.
Which is exactly what people do in the Legendary thread and you say it's useless for that. In fact the name could be even Ask to the legendaries slaughter experts instead (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
Again, if we already have a thread for personal achievements, I think it's where personal achievements should be posted.
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post Jul 4 2010, 02:45
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Hi I have an armor question here. Im still level 26 for now but I want to know when is it a good time to be switching over from Heavy chainmail armor to light armor? I still using the ruby chainmail but I was thinking of saving up creds to buy a Silk or Phase kind of armor. Should I do a full replacement of all my body armor into light armor (Helm, Gloves, feet, body, etc) or should I keep the heavy accessory armor and just switch the Body armor to light? Also should I save up the creds to buy Silk, Kevlar or Phase for fighting Bosses? Theres so many choices its hard to decide. Thanks
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post Jul 4 2010, 04:27
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QUOTE(shiki666 @ Jul 3 2010, 20:45) *

Hi I have an armor question here. Im still level 26 for now but I want to know when is it a good time to be switching over from Heavy chainmail armor to light armor? I still using the ruby chainmail but I was thinking of saving up creds to buy a Silk or Phase kind of armor. Should I do a full replacement of all my body armor into light armor (Helm, Gloves, feet, body, etc) or should I keep the heavy accessory armor and just switch the Body armor to light? Also should I save up the creds to buy Silk, Kevlar or Phase for fighting Bosses? Theres so many choices its hard to decide. Thanks

You're better off wearing Cloth-Heavy mix rather than Light. It provides little of the evade of Cloth and less protection than Heavy. You'd need to find spectacular specimens of Light armor to make it worth wearing over Silk or Plate. And unless you can find a high-evade Phase, you don't really need it if you're going to be a warrior. Kevlar's also not always better. You'll know its time to switch when your damage absorption can't keep up any more.
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post Jul 4 2010, 05:15
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Couldn't think of a better thread to go to, but I saw an item called "Average Bronze-Trimmed Cotton Pants of Warding". What does bronze trimmed do?
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