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Isn't hito having trouble with blue skies?

He has the issue of getting there since Blue Skies comes at 260 and Hito is at 251...

FSM should be a challenge.

The FSM is tedious as hell. The challenge is boredom and a war of attrition. You win due to mana efficiency and the ability to deal enough damage before you run out of MP.

Can't wait to start getting trophies. Those are like lottery tickets.

That's true: Every one is a loser.

That's true: Every one is a loser.

But one can always dream.

I've tried using tier 1 spells for a while. Right now, it does not work. Tier 2 spells leaves 1-2 monsters alive. Tier 1 spells kills 2-3 monsters. While 2 tier 1 spell advances a round (usually kills everything after second), I take much more damage from casting 2 tier 1 spell than 1 tier 2 spell followed by magic missle.
What am I doing wrong? Maybe my speed is too low?

You're too low level, that's the problem, and that's why I said to balance your stats, it will be better but since you don't believe it, and prefer to leave SRT/DEX 14 levels behind, do whatever you want...

Once you have X-Magic, you don't need haste. You don't need anything. X-magic might be the greatest thing ever.

Once you have X-Magic you action speed is so high, that haste only gives you +10% speed anyway.
As a matter of fact, you can cast 2 thunderstorms before the monsters can have a chance to hit you?

but since you don't believe it

I have tried it when I was in level 70s. Having int lag a level behind while the 5 others lag 2 levels behind does not work.
END gives 1 shield, 1.5 barrier, 4 hp, and regen
Useful stats STR gives are .5 shield, 1 hp
So STR is less than 1/2 END... so having it lag 14 levels behind is not enough (as the costs aren't even 1/2 yet).

This post has been edited by Golden Sun: Jun 26 2010, 11:51

I have tried it when I was in level 70s. Having int lag a level behind while the 5 others lag 2 levels behind does not work.
END gives 1 shield, 1.5 barrier, 4 hp, and regen
Useful stats STR gives are .5 shield, 1 hp
So STR is less than 1/2 END... so having it lag 14 levels behind is not enough (as the costs aren't even 1/2 yet).

Yeah, INT is a lot more important than END, so it should be higher (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
Seriously, this was talked over and over, but people forget that END is the most important stat.

Try to put END to your level, and leave all others at 2-3 levels behind, and prefer to raise WIS first than the others.
This is what? Ah right, balanced stats.

Edit: your count about END/STR is wrong, let's see:
END + 2 levels = +2 shield, 8HP
STR - 12 levels = -6 shield, -12 HP
DEX - 12 levels = -3 shield.

regen: it's like nothing, you'll need a lot of points to see a difference.
barrier: how much magic attacks they do to you since you're a mage?

Your count could be right if the stats had the same weight in level, which they don't have. i.e.reduce STR by 10 points, doesn't allow to END be increased by 10 points.

This post has been edited by cmdct: Jun 26 2010, 13:07

Edit: your count about END/STR is wrong, let's see:
END + 2 levels = +2 shield, 8HP
STR - 12 levels = -6 shield, -12 HP
DEX - 12 levels = -3 shield.

How is it wrong? It's posted right here:
https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=18403
What I'm saying is that since 1 END gives more than 2 STR, without looking at barrier, regen, or hp (all of which 1 END would give more than 2 STR), so therefore, you should lag STR behind so that the cost of raising 1 STR is less than 1/2 the cost of raising 1 END.

This post has been edited by Golden Sun: Jun 26 2010, 17:16

How is it wrong? It's posted right here:
https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=18403
What I'm saying is that since 1 END gives more than 2 STR, without looking at barrier, regen, or hp (all of which 1 END would give more than 2 STR), so therefore, you should lag STR behind so that the cost of raising 1 STR is less than 1/2 the cost of raising 1 END.

OMG... If you have 100 STR and 100 END, of course would be better if you trade for 50 STR and 125 END instead, but that doesn't happen, END will won't be close to +120.
And this if you stay the other stats balanced, if not it will even be worse.

Tell me something if balanced didn't you say all stats would only stayed behind 2 levels?
Now you decided to let fall STR/DEX 14 levels behind, AGI 5 levels, to have END/WIS 1 level above, INT 3 levels above:

Stats:
74
74
83
89
91
89

So:
END + 3 levels = +3 shield, 12HP
STR - 12 levels = -6 shield, -12 HP
DEX - 12 levels = -3 shield.
AGI - 3 levels = -0.75 shield - 1 point of action speed.
-Lost 6.75 points of rating in here.

little more INT+WIS points =
-nothing that change your magic power in battle (you still kill the same amount of mobs in the first turn)
-MP regen same thing, actually you won't see any change until you got a gold or rainbow aura.
-And at the best of best 1 more cast of tier 1 spell, if you get it.

This post has been edited by cmdct: Jun 26 2010, 18:08

END + 3 levels = +3 shield, 12HP
STR - 12 levels = -6 shield, -12 HP
DEX - 12 levels = -3 shield.
AGI - 3 levels = -0.75 shield - 1 point of action speed.
-Lost 6.75 points of rating in here.

You're assuming that if I keep all of my stats balanced, I would get every stat to my level. That is not the case. If I keep them balanced, they will fall behind by 2 levels each.
I am simply looking at the margin here. Your point about not having int/wisdom that high is valid (I have corrected this. END is now +3 level, int +2, wis +0). Your point about not having str/dex lag behind so much is not. Looking at the margin, if increasing end will bring you more gain per xp cost, then you increase end. If str or dex will bring you more gain per xp cost, then you increase that.

You're assuming that if I keep all of my stats balanced

Look again, and make the counts, I'm assuming what you said 2 levels behind or 86

Look again, and make the counts, I'm assuming what you said 2 levels behind or 86

Looking at the margin, if increasing end will bring you more gain per xp cost, then you increase end. If str or dex will bring you more gain per xp cost, then you increase that.

This still holds.
End becomes +5 then.

Edit: I get the general gist of what you're saying, but it is too complicated for me to delve into. You're saying that if I keep my stats balanced, I would have more derived stats that are important to my character build. I'm saying that you can best allocate your exp by looking at derived stat gain divided by exp use. Someone help me out here?

This post has been edited by Golden Sun: Jun 26 2010, 22:28

This still holds.
End becomes +5 then.

No, you had 89 END, how it is +5? Hello, if I'm assuming 86 and it's 2 levels behind then I'm using the data when you were at level 88 right? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Edit: It's oblivious that you aren't listening, just trying to annoy so:

do whatever you want...

(I don't care anymore)


This post has been edited by cmdct: Jun 26 2010, 18:35

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Now that I have +10 to all stats, I won't get any more from artifacts. If I fulfill all my abilits till level 200, I still gonna get more ability points from artifacts or just when I get the new ability tree at level 250?

Now that I have +10 to all stats, I won't get any more from artifacts. If I fulfill all my abilits till level 200, I still gonna get more ability points from artifacts or just when I get the new ability tree at level 250?

You'll still get ability points, but you won't have anywhere to spend them. However, you still get an ability point every level so you'll probably have excess at level 250 anyways, so there's no point in trading in artifacts anymore.
How did you get so many stat point boosts from equip?

This post has been edited by Golden Sun: Jun 27 2010, 19:39

How did you get so many stat point boosts from equip?

Auras + some nice stat boost on his equipt (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Now that I have +10 to all stats, I won't get any more from artifacts. If I fulfill all my abilits till level 200, I still gonna get more ability points from artifacts or just when I get the new ability tree at level 250?

It's never ending, so you'll still get AP even if you pass all AP slots possible to fill.

It's never ending, so you'll still get AP even if you pass all AP slots possible to fill.

Yes.
Also, don't expect Tenboro to add new ability tiers any time soon. The next one is probably at 300.

It's never ending, so you'll still get AP even if you pass all AP slots possible to fill.

Have anyone actually filled all slots?

Have anyone actually filled all slots?

Boggyb, and even saved enough AP for the next tier at l250

This post has been edited by cmdct: Jun 28 2010, 03:38

Have anyone actually filled all slots?

Boggyb, and even saved enough AP for the next tier at l250

I'm going to cry the next time there is a mandatory AP reset.

Boggyb, and even saved enough AP for the next tier at l250

I'm going to cry the next time there is a mandatory AP reset.

Heh! I just did one and filling in the Page 2 abilities was a pain. I can only imagine the agony of re-doing up to 200 tier again.