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May 23 2010, 02:20
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scorp1on
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I'm trying to plan ahead (way ahead) for the legendaries, and have heard from enough places that PA is the way to go that i believe it. My question is this: i have two estocs and a rapier, which would be best for a mostly mage player who wants to nuke the legendaries? battlecaster estoc http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=6676d34086better PA chance estoc http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=e85423860csome random rapier http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=b95a867c15or should i try for a better version of one of those? i got all of them as random drops, and would rather use something i already have than pay credits for something only marginally better. I also plan to IW up the level on the one you all think is the best option, so the levels arent terribly important right now, since i have >10 levels before i can even begin a challenge, and 19 levels before i get bewilder.
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May 23 2010, 02:23
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QUOTE(scorp1on @ May 22 2010, 17:20)  i have two estocs and a rapier, which would be best for a mostly mage player who wants to nuke the legendaries?
or should i try for a better version of one of those?
Find a better rapier.
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May 23 2010, 10:59
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hyl
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I have gotten a Dalek voicebox today (beating him on hard on a low level in the iw) and i was wondering if i should offer it now to the shrine or if i should till i am a higher level (incase it gives an equipment on par with your level).
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May 23 2010, 11:34
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kyouri
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QUOTE(yuripe @ May 23 2010, 04:21)  if you want some reference of them (their HP or more tactic), see on How do I beat a Legendary? . honestly to use bubble gum/flower vase just for beat boss is more waste than use scroll of Gods(according the price, and 'rare'). I took them just incase, you get a 10k bonus for clearing while bubblegum is only around 2k, sounds like a pretty decent insurance/backup don't you think? And I only used it against MBP cause I overestimated it. (bought along 5 pieces of gum LOL). QUOTE(Boggyb @ May 23 2010, 04:35)  You probably say this because you managed to avoid being hit by their spirit attack.
Well 2 of the 4 didn't get to use their special attacks, MBP did however and spark saved me. The bunny's spirit attack did like 80% of my maxhp when it hit which was kinda scary since spark wasn't active at the time but I had haste and got 2 heals off before the boss attacked and even a few hits before I got hit again. QUOTE(hyl @ May 23 2010, 18:59)  I have gotten a Dalek voicebox today (beating him on hard on a low level in the iw) and i was wondering if i should offer it now to the shrine or if i should till i am a higher level (incase it gives an equipment on par with your level).
Using it later on would save you from leveling it however I am pretty sure the chances of a rare'r' item doesn't increase. Okay heres my gear for RoB; and skills are pretty straightfoward. Got slow, weaken, haste, shadow veil, poison maxed. Everything else into mana tank. Stats are more dominant in str,dex,agi and less in int,wis. WeaponShieldHelmBodyHandsLegsFeetis it enough for the level 75 bosses? or do I need to start looking for specific elemental immunity gear? This post has been edited by kyouri: May 23 2010, 11:40
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May 23 2010, 11:50
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Alpha 7
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QUOTE(cmal @ May 22 2010, 14:33)  Boss and Legendary 2 cents: Bosses are small time compared to Legendaries. Konata is an overglorified Boss. Mikuru is a bit tougher. Ryouko and Yuki will kill you if you go in thinking they're like the previous two. They are much more resilient than the others and are much more powerful. PA is pretty essential if you're going in melee, and doesn't hurt if you're maging (at least at low levels since you don't have enough "experience" with magic to deal the assload of damage Boggy, Sayo and the other high-level mages demonstrate).
I am an "other" now? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) QUOTE(cmal @ May 22 2010, 14:33)  My stuff: I have two pants, my old Kevlar and a new pair of Dragonhide. Suffix bonuses aside, they're mostly the same with some minor differences in certain stats. I'm thinking of keeping my Kevlar on, but I want some second opinions. Relevant base stats are as follows. Kevlar Dragonhide I would go with the better overall mitigation from the Kelvar, as everything else is the same.
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May 23 2010, 13:12
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Sayo Aisaka
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QUOTE(kyouri @ May 23 2010, 10:34)  Okay heres my gear for RoB; and skills are pretty straightfoward. Got slow, weaken, haste, shadow veil, poison maxed. Everything else into mana tank. Stats are more dominant in str,dex,agi and less in int,wis.
is it enough for the level 75 bosses? or do I need to start looking for specific elemental immunity gear?
You should be fine with what you've got. It is possible to survive the spirit attacks if you have lots of HP and mitigation, but IMO it's really not worth it. Just take some Scrolls of Life.
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May 23 2010, 15:00
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Golden Sun
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QUOTE I took them just incase, you get a 10k bonus for clearing while bubblegum is only around 2k, sounds like a pretty decent insurance/backup don't you think? And I only used it against MBP cause I overestimated it. (bought along 5 pieces of gum LOL). I didn't use any items for clearing bosses. They took 1-2k damage each time I hit them with magic. QUOTE You should be fine with what you've got. It is possible to survive the spirit attacks if you have lots of HP and mitigation, but IMO it's really not worth it. Just take some Scrolls of Life.
I just took a fire infusion with mbp. I have 20% fire rating already, so I was pretty safe. His spirit attack hit me for about 2/3 of my hp. Fire infusion also helped out with the damage. With PA, meteor did around 2.7k damage. Took 5 meteors to kill him.
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May 23 2010, 15:12
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yuripe
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QUOTE(kyouri @ May 23 2010, 16:34)  I took them just incase, you get a 10k bonus for clearing while bubblegum is only around 2k, sounds like a pretty decent insurance/backup don't you think? And I only used it against MBP cause I overestimated it. (bought along 5 pieces of gum LOL).
for me, bubble gum is important for beat Gods, not boss that I can beat with just 1 mana potion, and waste 10 K credit just for buy bubble gum again isn't useful cuz you can use that credit for training that more useful(pack rat, and refined aura).
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May 24 2010, 16:50
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grumpymal
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Here's another stat compare second opinion. Which one would you take? 2H Weapon 1: QUOTE Level: 0 Attack Damage Multiplier: 17.56 Attack Accuracy Bonus: 19.2 Attack Critical Bonus: 3.78 Burden: 17.13 Interference: 9.17 STR: 0.36 DEX: 0.18 AGI: 0.06 Proc Damage: 16 (17%-7T) 2H Weapon 2: QUOTE Level: 0 Attack Damage Multiplier: 14.78 Attack Accuracy Bonus: 22.4 Attack Critical Bonus: 5.46 Burden: 22.18 Interference: 9.16 STR: 0.15 DEX: 0.09 AGI: 0.21 Proc Damage: 16 (19%-7T)
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May 24 2010, 17:58
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QUOTE(cmal @ May 24 2010, 07:50)  Which one would you take?
The first one though I wouldn't use a 2h weapon. Unless, those are katanas?
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May 24 2010, 18:07
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hgbdd
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QUOTE(cmal @ May 24 2010, 15:50)  Here's another stat compare second opinion. Which one would you take?
Definitely the first one.
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May 24 2010, 18:18
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grumpymal
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QUOTE(Boggyb @ May 24 2010, 11:58)  The first one though I wouldn't use a 2h weapon. Unless, those are katanas?
They are. Even though the second has better accuracy and crit (and better distributed attribute bonuses), the damage on the first one is really something else.
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May 24 2010, 22:22
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echimaru
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May 24 2010, 22:28
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QUOTE i was posting in wtb looking for long sword so far i have the list to be choose from but i dont know which i should buy can anyone help me to decide? I like Alpha7's balance longsword the best, followed by mkonji's. None of us really use 2 handers except for katanas so you have a pretty good selection.
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May 24 2010, 23:25
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hgbdd
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QUOTE(Golden Sun @ May 24 2010, 21:28)  I like Alpha7's balance longsword the best, followed by mkonji's. None of us really use 2 handers except for katanas so you have a pretty good selection.
None of us? Katanas and longswords are in the same level in terms of bleeding and attack damage, so I wouldn't use a katana if I have a better longsword. Scythes offer betters attack damage and bleeding than longswords/katanas but because it's rare to drop already, it's even rare to get one good. Now you can argue that you only use niten, so only katanas are useful, but I wouldn't advice to use it before level 90, because you don't have much proficiency to reduce the ton of burden/interference you get, also you don't have x-attack to help you reducing the burden effects. All this for a small amount of power and parry, it's not worthy. You also you still need to use normal 2H to raise 2H proficiency, so your bleeding don't suffer a reduce of effectiveness. @echimaru: this is the best one. This post has been edited by cmdct: May 24 2010, 23:28
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May 25 2010, 05:10
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Panuru
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I figure it's about time to start beating up legendaries, so here's my question: For which legendaries (if any) is it crucial to use Silence, and for which is weaken + bewilder better?
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May 25 2010, 06:02
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QUOTE(Panuru @ May 24 2010, 20:10)  For which legendaries (if any) is it crucial to use Silence, and for which is weaken + bewilder better?
I wouldn't say it is crucial to use Silence on any of them.
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May 25 2010, 06:05
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Panuru
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Is it a crucial skill overall, then? I could see it being good for, say, Mind Rapers, but is that enough to justify it?
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May 25 2010, 07:15
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echimaru
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well i choose long sword since it has splash attack especially since it have a higher chance to inflict bleed damage.(well since if u lucky enough to splash ur attack, there are other chances they also got hit by bleed effect) so yup but if anyone have a weapon that u want to sell and it is BETTER than any of weapon within my list can u make a post on my thread in wtb? i might buy it
This post has been edited by echimaru: May 25 2010, 07:15
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May 25 2010, 07:23
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QUOTE(Panuru @ May 24 2010, 21:05)  Is it a crucial skill overall, then?
No. QUOTE(Panuru @ May 24 2010, 21:05)  I could see it being good for, say, Mind Rapers, but is that enough to justify it?
It is probably most useful for fighting the Gods.
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