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Sep 6 2009, 00:30
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Honeycat
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I feel so humiliated having to ask this but I really have no clue what to do when I get a Legendary in a mob. I basically want tips on what I should do so I started this thread to discuss it.
I've said in another thread that I don't usually come across them and when I tried to clear Endgame on two separate occasions, a Mithra got me once and then a Manbearpig got me the other time. As soon as I clicked on something, they killed me instantly in the last round.
I can't cast any magic in battle because of my armor, I only use Regen and Cure. Can you tell me about overcharge and my spirit points and all that? What about Spirit Potions? I can attack shit to death but the Legendaries are something different. I don't use my spirit attack at all so I figured I should learn how.
Thanks.
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Sep 6 2009, 01:19
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hitokiri84
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Silence is an absolute must. Then, assuming you have the ability points you should get Weaken, Spark of Life, and Absorb, in that order. 5 points on Weaken will reduce the damage by half, to the point where your Regen should recover health faster than you're losing it. Spark of Life and Absorb can be used at the end of the previous round to prevent yourself from being one-shot in case Silence doesn't proc right away, or if you're fighting more than one at the same time. Depending on what type of character you use (fighter, mage, etc.,) you should prepare beforehand accordingly so you can maximize damage. Also, don't forget you can use Focus if you're having trouble getting the spells to proc. It goes without saying that high Supportive, Depreciating, and Curative proficiencies will help make the fights easier for you.
inb4 cyriel telling you to get a staff and use bubblegum
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Sep 6 2009, 01:23
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EvolutionKing
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I'm nowhere near where you are, but you can try to cast Supportive magic (unaffected by armor) before you do the final blow to the last monster of the previous round. That way, you can be somewhat protected when the round starts, without having to cast it on the final round, which the Legendaries can probably attack you before the magic is cast.
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Sep 6 2009, 01:26
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Sep 6 2009, 01:29
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Lunatic2
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That would be very usefull to know indeed. I just tried my first ring of blood with Manbearpig as it is the first in line and i was hoping that with 7 godly potions and 1012HP i could give him a beating. Sadly i was killed in the 2nd round by global warming for some 970 dmg. What a sad day (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) Also does anyone know a good srategy for distributing EXP points? I am training a meele fighter but as i couldn't find anywhere explanation for what each primary atribute actually gives, i have no idea what is usefull for meele fighter and what is not. So far i have STR 60, DEX 50, AGI 50, END 60, INT 40, VIS 40. Thanks.
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Sep 6 2009, 01:30
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FinalixerX
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I have a different but somewhat related question. At what level should I before even attempting to fight a legendary monster? I know that at level 27 I am missing a crap-ton of skills, but I believe I've heard people at medium levels being able to tackle certain legendary monsters just fine. It seems as though Silence is required since otherwise the Spirit attack of legendaries are far too powerful to take on, but has anybody beaten a legendary without Silence? If not, what is the bare minimum amount of other skills that you need? Isn't Silence a skill you can get when you reach at level 50? I forget which tier it is.
EDIT: Also, what's with the bubblegum?
This post has been edited by FinalixerX: Sep 6 2009, 01:32
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Sep 6 2009, 01:36
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tenkicks
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In soviet Hentaiverse, Tenseigamoon beats Legendary...
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Sep 6 2009, 01:37
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JonG829
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QUOTE(FinalixerX @ Sep 5 2009, 17:30)  EDIT: Also, what's with the bubblegum?
I just learned that it does everything. Literally. Also: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9G-3MD9zNQ
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Sep 6 2009, 01:39
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Honeycat
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I've tried special items and elixirs and in the second to the last round in Endgame, I get all geared up with that stuff to head into the final round, but when I do anything, they kill me so fast I don't even know what happened. And keep in mind I can't use any offensive magical attacks because the spells fail due to my armor (I'm pure Warrior). So should I use my spirit attack on the Legendary that's sitting in the mob first and try to get that out of the way? And should I use a Godly Spirit Potion if I use my spirit attack? What does that do? Does it prevent it from being drained when I use it? I also took all of my ability points out of my Spirit Tank and my Overcharge Boost a long time ago. My tank is kinda big without it and all the attacking I do raises my overcharge so I can do a spirit attack whenever I want but it's a one-shot thing. EDIT: QUOTE(tenkicks @ Sep 5 2009, 16:36)  In soviet Hentaiverse, Tenseigamoon beats Legendary...
Dude, in the old battle system, I beat everything with just my power. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) This post has been edited by Tenseigamoon: Sep 6 2009, 01:42
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Sep 6 2009, 01:46
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FinalixerX
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QUOTE(Tenseigamoon @ Sep 5 2009, 19:39)  I've tried special items and elixirs and in the second to the last round in Endgame, I get all geared up with that stuff to head into the final round, but when I do anything, they kill me so fast I don't even know what happened. And keep in mind I can't use any offensive magical attacks because the spells fail due to my armor (I'm pure Warrior). So should I use my spirit attack on the Legendary that's sitting in the mob first and try to get that out of the way? And should I use a Godly Spirit Potion if I use my spirit attack? What does that do? Does it prevent it from being drained when I use it? I also took all of my ability points out of my Spirit Tank and my Overcharge Boost a long time ago. My tank is kinda big without it and all the attacking I do raises my overcharge so I can do a spirit attack whenever I want but it's a one-shot thing. EDIT: Dude, in the old battle system, I beat everything with just my power. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) I've used Spirit Potions before. They regen your Spirit Points and allow you to use your Spirit Attack again. However you need to charge your overcharge back up to 50% again, so trying to rely on Spirit Attacks to kill the legendaries may not be the best option if you cannot kill them with one attack. This post has been edited by FinalixerX: Sep 6 2009, 01:47
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Sep 6 2009, 02:06
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Silvannon
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QUOTE(JonG829 @ Sep 6 2009, 01:37)  I just learned that it does everything. Literally. Also: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9G-3MD9zNQindeed in the song it was the only thing that could repair London bridge after it fell down
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Sep 6 2009, 04:31
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Thanos008
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QUOTE(Sonic @ Sep 5 2009, 16:57)  Silence is a very good idea but if you can't use it than make sure you have full points in Absorb and Spark of Life. Absorb will save your ass from a one hit kill magic attack most of the time and if not, Spark catches you. Also bring a weapon that can process penetrated armor. Once your overcharge is at max, wack the legendary until the armor is penetrated; than do a Spirit Attack which should do 20k easily. Also for your enjoyment: [ www.starfleetplatoon.com] http://www.starfleetplatoon.com/users/sonic/EH/hv/dalek.txt (Random Encounter Actually) [ www.starfleetplatoon.com] http://www.starfleetplatoon.com/users/sonic/EH/hv/mithra.txt[ www.starfleetplatoon.com] http://www.starfleetplatoon.com/users/soni...hite_bunneh.txt That is one hell of a bit of useful information. I didn't know that you could combine Spirit Attacks with Penetrated Armor to get more massive damage!! (Does it work with normal Magic, too??)
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Sep 6 2009, 06:54
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Sonic
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QUOTE(Thanos008 @ Sep 5 2009, 22:31)  That is one hell of a bit of useful information. I didn't know that you could combine Spirit Attacks with Penetrated Armor to get more massive damage!!
(Does it work with normal Magic, too??)
Yes.
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Sep 6 2009, 07:54
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Red of EHCOVE
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QUOTE(Lunatic2 @ Sep 5 2009, 19:29)  That would be very usefull to know indeed. I just tried my first ring of blood with Manbearpig as it is the first in line and i was hoping that with 7 godly potions and 1012HP i could give him a beating. Sadly i was killed in the 2nd round by global warming for some 970 dmg. What a sad day (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) Thanks. Thanks for the AAR; i was wondering if I should try it - now I know not to (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) What's the lowest level people actually suceeded in beating a Legendary?
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Sep 6 2009, 10:13
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ootoro
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QUOTE(Red_Piotrus @ Sep 6 2009, 00:54)  What's the lowest level people actually suceeded in beating a Legendary?
Not my level! I'm still getting crushed. I can deal with their normal attacks (sorta), but magic/spirit attacks one shot me. I went about five rounds with a dalek and its life bar only lost a tiny sliver.
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Sep 6 2009, 10:47
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cptkleenex
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Always have Spark of Life active. Not just in case you slip up and forget a certain attack, but you need to be ready for their freak hit on you that can one hit KO you. Keep Silence on whatever you are fighting at all times. When the enemy gets about 4 turns away from having Silence expire, start trying to hit it again. This gives you a couple extra turns just in case interference stops you or they resist. If you're really unlucky and it starts to blink on you, use Focus and take one last crack at getting it on before you're up against the wall.
If it's one of the boss monsters, just whack away at it with your best weapon. Believe me, I've dropped them by hitting them with a club so it's always doable. DO NOT waste Spirit right at the beginning. Ride the extra damage you can do with your overcharge first. Only use Spirit if you know you can finish it or if it's an absolute last ditch effort.
For the big daddy legendaries, don't be afraid to bring in multiple spirit healing items so you can hit em with a full blast, heal up your spirit and hit em again. If you have a weapon with the Penetrated Armor effect on it, you are fucking golden. Also, don't waste your item slots on something like Health Elixirs. Keep Regen active and do manual heals instead of using Health Elixirs. That'll save more room for Spirit/Mana Elixirs and power items in the event you are trying to kick the ass of the major legendaries.
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Sep 6 2009, 21:58
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Cyriel
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Sep 6 2009, 01:19)  Silence is an absolute must. Then, assuming you have the ability points you should get Weaken, Spark of Life, and Absorb, in that order. 5 points on Weaken will reduce the damage by half, to the point where your Regen should recover health faster than you're losing it. Spark of Life and Absorb can be used at the end of the previous round to prevent yourself from being one-shot in case Silence doesn't proc right away, or if you're fighting more than one at the same time. Depending on what type of character you use (fighter, mage, etc.,) you should prepare beforehand accordingly so you can maximize damage. Also, don't forget you can use Focus if you're having trouble getting the spells to proc. It goes without saying that high Supportive, Depreciating, and Curative proficiencies will help make the fights easier for you.
inb4 cyriel telling you to get a staff and use bubblegum
And fuck you too ^^ But yes, silence a must, preferbly weaken too, basic shield if you still take damage and just beat away at it with whatever you have. Refresh the curses when they run out and you should be fine. Use poison and shadow veil for added spice <3 And yes, Spark of life is advised just in case ^^ And for your pleasure, in case you decide to play into elemental weaknesses. White bunny = cold weak Manbearpig = Fire weak Mithra = Holy / soul weak Dalek = Electro weak. And you don't have to use items if you're good enough. See, hito fails to realize i just wanted that arena cleared, so i used bubble gum, so this is probably the effect of me being able to 1hit 7 mobs in turn 1 while he's grinding away. Envy does not suit you hito. And post the stats of that ethereal you have sometimes. Curious curious <3 This post has been edited by Cyriel: Sep 6 2009, 22:00
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Sep 7 2009, 03:09
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hitokiri84
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Envy? [ i422.photobucket.com] Say what now? Envy of your ability to use a strategy that won't get you past Dreamfall? It's ironic that you would use the term "grinding," since that's exactly what the Arena becomes. Grindfest. The thing you fail to realize is, I was originally a mage. My Elemental proficiency has been over 100 since June, and I don't even touch it anymore. I'm not going to sit here and argue about it, because I've already been there and done that, and it doesn't work when each successive challenge increases by 10 rounds. Instead of running your mouth, how about you go prove the greatness of the mage layout by killing a Legendary in the Ring of Blood? Or better yet, how about you Level to 180 and tell me how effective it is against a Legendary after exhausting your supplies on 80 rounds of mostly mini-bosses? In the meantime, I'll keep cruising down easy street, steamrolling everything in my path, and finishing multi-boss challenges with only a handful of mana items lost. And no, I'm not going to bother showing you ethereal stats because they are shit compared to regular weapons. Even so, they are still incredibly effective 30 levels below my own thanks to the soul damage. Of course, I'm expecting Tenboro to add in enemy resistance to Soul any day now to remove the final remaining advantage you can gain over the system.
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Sep 7 2009, 03:28
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Cyriel
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Meteor blasts Tentacle Monster for 7135 fire damage.
Why bother steamrolling if you can snap your fingers and make it die ^^
It's on nintendo btw, just in case it matters
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