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post Mar 26 2012, 05:26
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QUOTE(Kaosumx @ Mar 26 2012, 05:04) *

The good ones seem to be crazy rare. Now that I look back, I wish I kept the one with 45 percent conservation...


45 percent seems quite high... but then again who knows (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

i'd be willing to bet the max is roughly 25% though
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post Mar 26 2012, 06:53
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Is there a reason some people try to get 100x Energy Drinks at a time? Are they used for upgrades or something later or do some people just play that many rounds?
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post Mar 26 2012, 07:01
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QUOTE(Nguoivohinh @ Mar 25 2012, 07:27) *

... no wonder you have a hard time with IWBTH hourlies...


55 22 You have been defeated.
55 21 Horrible Rape hits you for 1380 dark damage.
55 20 Tentacle Monster casts Horrible Rape
55 19 You gain 0.01 points of heavy armor proficiency.
55 18 Perl hits you for 297 crushing damage.
55 17 Mutant Peacock hits you for 49 piercing damage.
55 16 Doomsday hits you for 296 piercing damage.
55 15 Skynet uses Doomsday
55 14 Shady Creeper hits you for 234 piercing damage.
55 13 Lancelot hits you for 80 piercing damage.
55 12 The effect Penetrated Armor on Shady Creeper has expired.
55 11 The effect Stunned on Shady Creeper has expired.
55 10 The effect Penetrated Armor on Mutant Peacock has expired.
55 9 The effect Stunned on Mutant Peacock has expired.
55 8 The effect Penetrated Armor on Perl has expired.
55 7 The effect Stunned on Perl has expired.
55 6 The effect Penetrated Armor on Tentacle Monster has expired.
55 5 The effect Stunned on Tentacle Monster has expired.
55 4 The effect Penetrated Armor on Skynet has expired.
55 3 The effect Stunned on Skynet has expired.
55 2 Rabid Hamster has been defeated.
55 1 You crit Rabid Hamster for 2046 crushing damage.
54 4 Replenishment restores 27 points of magic.
54 3 Skynet gains the effect Weakened.
54 2 You cast Weaken.
54 1 You gain 0.03 points of deprecating magic proficiency.
53 4 Replenishment restores 27 points of magic.
53 3 You gain the effect Hastened.
53 2 You cast Haste.
53 1 You gain 0.02 points of supportive magic proficiency.
52 4 Replenishment restores 27 points of magic.
52 3 Tentacle Monster gains the effect Weakened.
52 2 You cast Weaken.
52 1 You gain 0.03 points of deprecating magic proficiency.
51 7 Replenishment restores 27 points of magic.
51 6 Lancelot hits you for 70 piercing damage.
51 5 The effect Weakened on Tentacle Monster has expired.
51 4 The effect Penetrated Armor on Lancelot has expired.
51 3 The effect Stunned on Lancelot has expired.
51 2 You gain the effect Replenishment.
51 1 You use Greater Mana Potion.
50 2 Rabid Hamster gains the effect Weakened.
50 1 You cast Weaken.
49 5 Cooldown expired for Shatter Strike
49 4 The effect Weakened on Perl has expired.
49 3 You gain the effect Protection.
49 2 You cast Protection.
49 1 You gain 0.01 points of supportive magic proficiency.
48 1 Your attack misses its mark.
47 1 You hit Rabid Hamster for 1900 crushing damage.
46 4 The effect Regeneration has expired.
46 3 Lancelot gains the effect Weakened.
46 2 You cast Weaken.
46 1 You gain 0.01 points of deprecating magic proficiency.
45 3 The effect Weakened on Shady Creeper has expired.
45 2 The effect Weakened on Rabid Hamster has expired.
45 1 Your attack misses its mark.
44 3 The effect Protection has expired.
44 2 The effect Weakened on Skynet has expired.
44 1 Your attack misses its mark.
43 3 The effect Weakened on Lancelot has expired.
43 2 Mantitcore has been defeated.
43 1 You hit Mantitcore for 2013 crushing damage.
42 1 Your attack misses its mark.
41 1 Your attack misses its mark.
40 4 Mantitcore is agitated!
40 3 You hit Mantitcore for 1322 crushing damage.
40 2 Scary Ghost has been defeated.
40 1 You hit Scary Ghost for 1612 crushing damage.
39 31 Scary Ghost is agitated!
39 30 Rabid Hamster is agitated!
39 29 Spirit Stance Exhausted
39 28 Shatter Strike hits Lancelot for 5987 crushing damage.
39 27 Lancelot gains the effect Penetrated Armor.
39 26 Lancelot gains the effect Stunned.
39 25 Shatter Strike hits Shady Creeper for 6473 crushing damage.
39 24 Shady Creeper gains the effect Penetrated Armor.
39 23 Shady Creeper gains the effect Stunned.
39 22 Shatter Strike hits Skynet for 6929 crushing damage.
39 21 Skynet gains the effect Penetrated Armor.
39 20 Skynet gains the effect Stunned.
39 19 Shatter Strike hits Mantitcore for 4844 crushing damage.
39 18 Mantitcore gains the effect Penetrated Armor.
39 17 Mantitcore gains the effect Stunned.
39 16 Shatter Strike hits Scary Ghost for 7316 crushing damage.
39 15 Scary Ghost gains the effect Penetrated Armor.
39 14 Scary Ghost gains the effect Stunned.
39 13 Shatter Strike hits Perl for 3231 crushing damage.
39 12 Perl gains the effect Penetrated Armor.
39 11 Perl gains the effect Stunned.
39 10 Shatter Strike hits Rabid Hamster for 4891 crushing damage.
39 9 Rabid Hamster gains the effect Penetrated Armor.
39 8 Rabid Hamster gains the effect Stunned.
39 7 Shatter Strike hits Tentacle Monster for 4956 crushing damage.
39 6 Tentacle Monster gains the effect Penetrated Armor.
39 5 Tentacle Monster gains the effect Stunned.
39 4 Shatter Strike hits Mutant Peacock for 5404 crushing damage.
39 3 Mutant Peacock gains the effect Penetrated Armor.
39 2 Mutant Peacock gains the effect Stunned.
39 1 You use Shatter Strike.
38 5 Regeneration restores 159 points of health.
38 4 Shady Creeper hits you for 43 piercing damage.
38 3 Mantitcore hits you for 59 piercing damage.
38 2 Tentacle Monster hits you for 57 piercing damage.
38 1 Spirit Stance Engaged
37 6 Regeneration restores 360 points of health.
37 5 Lancelot hits you for 39 piercing damage.
37 4 PPPPP hits you for 321 crushing damage.
37 3 Perl uses PPPPP
37 2 Your attack misses its mark.
37 1 You hit Scary Ghost for 1223 crushing damage.
36 5 Regeneration restores 233 points of health.
36 4 Scary Ghost hits you for 77 void damage.
36 3 Recovered 1241 points of health.
36 2 You gain the effect Regeneration.
36 1 You use Godly Health Potion.
35 9 Shady Creeper misses the attack against you.
35 8 Squirt crits you for 1349 fire damage.
35 7 Mantitcore casts Squirt
35 6 Tentacle Monster hits you for 48 piercing damage.
35 5 Lancelot misses the attack against you.
35 4 You hit Skynet for 1138 crushing damage.


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how about magic attack? how can i make it easy time?

warding scrolls? absorb? change to light armor?

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post Mar 26 2012, 07:07
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QUOTE(wrinty @ Mar 26 2012, 12:53) *

Is there a reason some people try to get 100x Energy Drinks at a time? Are they used for upgrades or something later or do some people just play that many rounds?


Well....if you are willing to sacrifice some credits, you can use the energy drink to play on:
1. higher difficulties in arenas or
2. grindfest

Even if you're not getting much credits in the process (additional credits used to buy energy drinks), you gain more EXP which means that's going to worth your credits sooner or later.
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post Mar 26 2012, 07:09
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QUOTE(eqwer @ Mar 26 2012, 12:01) *

55 22 You have been defeated.
55 21 Horrible Rape hits you ...
55 20 Tentacle Monster casts Horrible Rape


What an awful way to die... (IMG:[bbs.pramool.com] http://bbs.pramool.com/webboard/pic/140.gif)

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post Mar 26 2012, 07:10
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QUOTE(Kaosumx @ Mar 25 2012, 20:04) *

The good ones seem to be crazy rare. Now that I look back, I wish I kept the one with 45 percent conservation...


.... SONOFABITCH!

Well any ideas on where I can a decent (not good, decent) such staff? I have been checking the WTS forums and I found nothing.
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post Mar 26 2012, 07:23
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QUOTE(buktore @ Mar 26 2012, 07:09) *

What an awful way to die... (IMG:[bbs.pramool.com] http://bbs.pramool.com/webboard/pic/140.gif)

any suggestions? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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post Mar 26 2012, 07:34
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Try to relax and don't tense too much, and use lots of lube beforehand. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

....

Joke aside... Try to get a few rank of OC boost (at least ~3-4 rank), so that you can make an effective follow up attack with 2x damage bonus after SP Stance + Shatter. It'll make thing easier. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Mar 26 2012, 07:35
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Whenever I do IWBTH hourlies, I use Heavy Armor with a Mace. The main goal is to survive the fight until I can use Shatter Strike. I start off buffing myself, weakening every enemy and then attacking to build up dat OC. Once I have them stunned, I keep on attacking and after they unstun, it usually take too many hits for the next Shatter Strike.
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post Mar 26 2012, 07:57
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Don't know if this will work or not for you guys... But if using mace, wouldn't it better to go Spark > Attack > Cure/HP potion (if necessary) > Attack > Weaken / etc ... ? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

My plan is that, if spark proc, you should be almost invincible for a few turns, so use this opportunity to stun as much mobs as possible while healing yourself if needed. Once all or a sufficient amount of mobs are stunned, you should then have room to cast additional buff/debuff/heal/etc and so on...

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post Mar 26 2012, 08:09
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QUOTE(buktore @ Mar 26 2012, 07:09) *

What an awful way to die... (IMG:[bbs.pramool.com] http://bbs.pramool.com/webboard/pic/140.gif)


(IMG:[msnsmileys.net] http://msnsmileys.net/r/smileys/ROFL/Rofl_3e.gif) Oh I laughed so hard...

eqwer you didn't cast Spark of Life, did you? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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post Mar 26 2012, 08:17
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@Nguoivohinh
Spark will leave very few health, so i did not.....
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post Mar 26 2012, 08:31
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Well.....you're not going to be defeated if you use spark, so that should be a plus.
At least you can use potions to recover your health after spark.

An old advice is to try lowering your difficulty till you can kill things comfortably, then try increasing the difficulty again when you're confident you can handle them.
Why? We all have different levels/equips/spells. Something that works for me may not work for others. It's your best interest to try working on your own strategy,
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post Mar 26 2012, 08:41
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I'm having no problem with IWBTH hourlies right now. Full superior kevlar set of protection, hast->sol->sv->protection->regen, wack away with exquisite mace of slaughter, keep hp above 65 percent with cure, focus on 1 enemy, silence the minibosses. I think I lvled 9 times since yesterday? I'm close to my 10th lvl now. 1 spirit potion, 1 hp pot, rest mana pot.

EDIT - I haven't used a spirit potion yet, the hp potion is greater, 2 greater mana pots, 2 sup, 1 godly. I do burn through all the mana pots though usually.

EDIT 2 - Go into IWBTH hourly, find out all the monsters are crush resistant. FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF. Thank god there was only 5 of them. If there was 10 I probably would have lost.

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post Mar 26 2012, 08:55
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QUOTE(skillchip @ Mar 26 2012, 02:21) *

Use this formula to determine which is better
Magical Attack*(1+EDB/100)*(1+Prof/200)
Fenrir (holy): 2023.68
Fenrir (dark): 2186.84
Destruction (holy): 2317.59
Destruction (dark): 1854.03

So if you are rotating dark/holy you should probably use the Fenrir staff, but if you are just trying to blow things up with holy then use the destruction staff


Thanks, guess I'll continue using the fenrir one then (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) . K+.
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post Mar 26 2012, 13:15
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LOL glad you're enjoying it.
1. Not really, but there is a side effect called killing stuff faster makes me take less damage (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
2. Last stage of arena gives you items/equips. Higher difficulty gives you better chance of getting better drops. It's the same for the hourly encounters.
3. Sorry; (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) now you know; it's why people suggest plate for bleed style; you need that phys abs/mitigation, +endurance bonus.
Everyone's busy with the new dawn, so let me first point to some useful archives. We really should make some sort of copy-paste reply for this.

http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Category:HentaiVerse
has answers about various technical aspects and mechanics (what abilities you get at what level, difference in difficulty settings, spell damage, etc)

http://ehwiki.org/wiki/HentaiVerse_FAQ
http://ehwiki.org/wiki/HentaiVerse_Advice

http://ehwiki.org/wiki/User_talk:Varst
is a great collection of advice for new players as collected by varst.  

Is my gear good? Can be answered by installing the script here or [userscripts.org] here or using the scaling calc to set your item to level 0 and then compare to the Equipment Ranges Wiki

Finding good gear; never buy stuff from the bazaar at your level. The cost of an item at the bazaar is 10x the price you sell it, so even shitty gear might cost you 3000c or so whereas you might pay only 300c - 500c from other players. Go to WTS subforum to browse:
https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showforum=77

and in particular, some freebies for low levels in these player's shops:
https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=59425
https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=60669
Don't be greedy, but feel free to experiment w/ different equips to see what playstyles suit you. In case you weren't aware, it's fine to use equipment over your level. It's recommended in fact, since it's easy to quickly outpace your equipment's effectiveness since you level a lot faster at lower levels.

And of course this thread is a great resource. A search is suggested, but may be hard to use cuz you might get tons of results, but do go back a few pages and see if what you want to know has been asked.
Back to your question. Focusing on melee or mage? or trying out both? go however you like. If melee, Dual Wielding is better for accuracy, but 2hands is better for outright killing lots of stuff. For all classes, put 1 pt in poison, and 5 pts in weaken. Weaken any strong mob giving you trouble, any time you are testing the waters in a new dificulty if needed, and any time you run into a legendary.

For armor, fighters want "of protection" suffix gear, and mages want "elementalist" suffix gear.
For melee weapons, balance gives accuracy, but slaughter gives best damage.
For staves, focus = accuracy, destruction = damage. Mages should always max out the aoe spells they want to use; not only does it increase damage, it reduces mana cost.

Oh yeah, if you get an artifact, you can turn it in, but it's probably worth more to you if you sell it; people are always buying em for 14,000c (depends on market, check WTB subforum), and the credits will help you out more than 100x crystals or 1 ability point would.

Anything more specific just ask here. G'luck.




Thanks! this was extremely helpful, also i have to admit i love killing with a twohand because of the domino strike effect xD. As for my stats i focus only a little bit on strength and endurance but i always pour a couple into dex/agi/int/wisdom here and there since the mana becomes useful (Cure) and hit accuracy. Thanks again for all the help (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)! Also wow... didn't know there was a trading system at all....Bazaar has been ripping me off D<!
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post Mar 26 2012, 15:06
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@etothex: look at that amount of information (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) you'll scare Arch Lich away.

First you should just give him a few advices, then nurture his addiction to HV slowly, but gradually until he becomes one of us (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

@Arch Lich: Why don't you try Mage, bro? It'll kill off the mobs crazy fast, I promise you (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool2.gif)
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post Mar 26 2012, 15:36
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QUOTE(eqwer @ Mar 26 2012, 13:01) *

how about magic attack? how can i make it easy time?

warding scrolls? absorb? change to light armor?

I just reached level 100 today.
The number of IWETH hourlies monsters surprised me, I had thought it would be increased slowly.
But with a scroll of Spark of Life and several superior Potions I won the first encounter.
The second time I used Spark of Life magic (2/5) instead and succeeded again.

I have similar level and play style with you.
Two handed mace + heavy armor (5 power armor, 2 Slaughter)
It seems to work at least currently.

My strategy:
cast Haste->Spark of Life -> Protection, then attack the monsters and try stunning as many as possible.
Use health potions and/or heal when needed (I think cast weak at this period is not worth it) and try to survive before 100 overcharge.
Then strike them all and refresh some buffs, use mana potion when needed, cast weaken only to the monsters with a lot of HP and try killing low HP monsters as quick as possible.

For your reference, below is my stats:

Physical Attack
953.1 base damage
90.9 % hit chance
21.8 % crit chance
Magical Attack
169.3 base damage
82.7 % hit chance
0 % crit chance
151.3 % mana cost
Physical Defense
27.4 points absorbed
37.3 % mitigation
Magical Defense
28.9 points absorbed
32.4 % mitigation
Avoidance
0 % evade
0 % block
6.8 % parry
8 % resist
Compromise
102.7 interference
76.4 burden
Primary Attributes
Strength
146
Dexterity
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Agility
100
Endurance
127
Intelligence
73
Wisdom
104

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post Mar 26 2012, 15:43
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there is only 1 way to find out which path one should take
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it's in battle page load

in battle page load <0.25s go melee
else go mage

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post Mar 26 2012, 16:12
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QUOTE(aiwotorimodose @ Mar 26 2012, 20:43) *

there is only 1 way to find out which path one should take
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it's in battle page load

in battle page load <0.25s go melee
else go mage

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I second this. With melee you use more time waiting for the damn page to load compared to actually spending time thinking and making up strategies lol (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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