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I would say the shield. If you can afford a decent one and also the forging cost up to level 30-35 of blocking chance, it will boost your survival chance a lot. I think something around 36% base wouldn't take more than 300k in an auction.

Thanks, https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=209198
this auction shd02 what price is woth to buy

https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Training
65,074,496?

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Thanks, https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=209198
this auction shd02 what price is woth to buy

Warding and has agility. Not many people will be interested. Just be aware of other low level players who are also desperate for a Force shield. I don't think it's worth more than several hundred k.

This post has been edited by as013: Sep 6 2017, 15:55

Thanks, https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=209198
this auction shd02 what price is woth to buy

I would say draw the line at 300k max.

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mind that ? means it's not fully disclosed yet. uncertainty may be in the order of 100c~1k (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

mind that ? means it's not fully disclosed yet. uncertainty may be in the order of 100c~1k (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)

Anyway, I do not intend to consume 60m for the Assimilator. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif)

for 1H? for 1H you should've aimed for B5F4 or B4F5. one or two level of overpower may still be tolerated since they still do something, but 4 seem a bit of a waste to me - since overwhelming strikes has the same effect of overpower, just more powerful.

for DW, it's fine.

overpower reached 2 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)


This post has been edited by ALL_MIGHT: Sep 6 2017, 21:26

According to the Research for 1H thread, Butcher 5 for a particular player gave an effective 2.3% damage boost and Fatality 5 gave an effective 2.2% damage boost (3.8% for special skills and 0% for counter). Overpower 5 only gave an effective 1.3% damage boost due to counter stuns and overwhelming strikes but that's still not bad.

I would not assume Overpower benefit is really 1.3% for the following reasons:

• Monsters chaosing have increased in the last 2 years (even more true after the last update where every upgrade increases the gift factor), the parry rate is probably visibly higher, I would guess easily 10% higher, which would already increase the effect from Overpower to 1.44%
• Parried hits don't build OC so even assuming that bonus OC from counter-attacks is always gained it increases OC gain by 1.44/2%, in a real scenario it's probably a bit less than 1% more OC gained, so it may fasten the usage of OFC. Not very significant but still not bad.
• Parried hits don't inflict PA so Overpower increases the possibility of stacking PAs on monsters. Still not very significant but far from bad

tl;dr: I personally rate Overpower only slightly lower than fatality for 1H (butcher is imho the undisputed best potency since it's the winner in Research for 1H and has by far the best sinergy with OFC since crits on OFC are completely useless apart from bosses/SGs), it's a good potency for 1H and the only potency you really want maxed for DW.
If you want to switch between 1H and DW it's fantastic, still good for 1H.
I would take 3 Overpower over a single swift strike.

the only potency you really want maxed for DW.

i'm not so sure. a DW Shade build has a higher Crit chance than 1H (+15~20 points, especially if offhand is waki and armors are shadowdancer). maxing (or almost) fatality may have a better return.

in the doubt, i'd go for F5O4 on offhand and a combo of Butcher, Fatality and Overpower on mainhand (and actually i did it: B4 F3 O2 (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) )

i'm not so sure. a DW Shade build has a higher Crit chance than 1H (+15~20 points, especially if offhand is waki and armors are shadowdancer). maxing (or almost) fatality may have a better return.

When parry chance is 20% or possibly more (last time I checked resist chance was higher than 20%, I assume it's the same for parry) 20% counter-resist is 4% more damage, 4% more OC gained and 4% more PAs.
Edit: 5%, thanks BlueWaterSplash

10% crit bonus, even with 0.65 crit chance is (0.65X0.1X100) is 6.5% damage, then you have to substract strikes, since strikes don't crits.
Edit: Actually it would be (0.65 X (FAT5 crit bonus / fat 0 crit bonus) X 100) so even less.
Given that strikes are a big part of the damage dealt (strikes do 50% of normal attacks) good luck staying above 4% damage, and good luck for compensating for the loss in OC and PAs.

Just like penetrator for mages I see no reasons not to go for OP10 with DW, unless you use a club.

This post has been edited by Sapo84: Sep 6 2017, 23:51

As monster parry increases, Overpower gets better. It's good for a high level rapier. The ethereal rapier here is soulfused and probably good to the end of the game, so the main thing is that there is no Swift Strike which is totally useless at high level. Swift Strike actually benefits my rapier, but mine is low level with low stats, and best for temporary usage. After level 300 I will probably start looking for a new weapon or change to mage.

According to the wiki formula, most monsters with reasonable DEX might have 10% parry, going up to 19% parry with max chaos.
Parry = 1 - (1 - min(10 , (DEX/ 100) , (DEX - Level) / 75) / 100) * (1 - chaos_interception_rank * 0.5%)

It also says PFUDOR monsters get additional 10% parry but I don't know how that factors in, would it go up to 29% parry?

What is the calculation to determine that 20% parry and 20% counter-parry gives effective 4% more damage? (1-0.2*0.8)/(1-0.2)=5% more damage?

It also says PFUDOR monsters get additional 10% parry but I don't know how that factors in, would it go up to 29% parry?

It should be 27.1% (19 + (100-19)*0.1).
Source here.

What is the calculation to determine that 20% parry and 20% counter-parry gives effective 4% more damage? (1-0.2*0.8)/(1-0.2)=5% more damage?

You're right, I didn't scale properly so Overpower is even better.
I'll edit the previous post.

This post has been edited by Sapo84: Sep 6 2017, 23:50

Just like penetrator for mages I see no reasons not to go for OP10 with DW, unless you use a club.

I have two ethereal axes

#1
Butcher Lv.2
Swift Strike Lv.2
Fatality Lv.5
Holy Strike

#2
Butcher Lv.3
Swift Strike Lv.2
Fatality Lv.4

I want them for SG arenas, is it worth to reforge? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

I have two ethereal axes

#1
Butcher Lv.2
Swift Strike Lv.2
Fatality Lv.5
Holy Strike

#2
Butcher Lv.3
Swift Strike Lv.2
Fatality Lv.4

I want them for SG arenas, is it worth to reforge? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

try #1 before reforging it.

I have two ethereal axes
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I want them for SG arenas, is it worth to reforge? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

Swift strike = reforge.
That's how I've always treated 1H/DW IW.

Also you're sure that you want axes for SG?
I would assume it's the kind of arenas where rapiers are probably the strongest.

Swift strike = reforge.
That's how I've always treated 1H/DW IW.

Also you're sure that you want axes for SG?
I would assume it's the kind of arenas where rapiers are probably the strongest.

It's for DW. I use an ethereal axe and a rapier of the nimble

It's for DW. I use an ethereal axe and a rapier of the nimble

usually speed bonus is already enough with DW build. but i wouldn't waste Holy strike in this case. just go for O5 + B4/F4 on offhand.

It's for DW. I use an ethereal axe and a rapier of the nimble

Umh, you still don't want swift strike since action speed reduces the damage from bleeding wounds, but on the other hand holy strike is pretty good.

I would probably still reforge, butcher is ok since an axe has a fuckton of damage, fatality and overpower are a lot stronger with DW, swift strike is really crap, it adds pretty much nothing and takes away damage.

usually speed bonus is already enough with DW build. but i wouldn't waste Holy strike in this case. just go for O5 + B4/F4 on offhand.

Yes, I'm almost ready to waste credits until I get OP5 in my offhand. And that holy strike looks good, but...

Umh, you still don't want swift strike since action speed reduces the damage from bleeding wounds

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I would probably still reforge, butcher is ok since an axe has a fuckton of damage, fatality and overpower are a lot stronger with DW, swift strike is really crap, it adds pretty much nothing and takes away damage.

Well, good thing I asked before soulfusing with that axe. I'll start with my offhand and do some testing with the other axe

Thank you guys

I think lololo is still medium level? Until you've become invincible, speed helps you live. If you need to decrease your speed to increase bleeding wound (DW) or counter-attack (1H) damage, you could use DW with plate/power armor to burden yourself to 0% speed. Your Swift Strike would be a wasted potency but at least not negatively useful.

How much speed does a high level DW player get? I only had 16% speed bonus before switching to 1H, and I had decent DW equipment. I guess if you attained 100% speed bonus, Swift Strike 5 would dilute to 5% effectiveness. I just remembered I only had superior wakizashi, that's probably why I was so slow.

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This post has been edited by Scremaz: Sep 7 2017, 10:41