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So i have failed to congratulate you in a humorous way? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

lol. he may simply be already overwhelmed by responsibilities, worry not.

either way yep, let's leave the announcement here and congratulations there.

Huh ho. So in the end it's DJNoni who picked the short stick. Someone had to lose anyway.
My condolences. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

Reorganizing a bit.

Issue that needed to be solved

• HVstat add-on in 'HV System Discussion' forum
• Monsterbation somewhere in middle of 'HV Scripts' thread in 'HV Chat' forum, findable through compendium
• HV Toolbox in own thread in 'HV Chat' Forum

Not logical. That results in an issue:

• Fat chance you'll either miss the scripts or the add-on, while
  • All these thing have the same purpose, enhancing the HV gameplay
  • All these thing have in common that they are confirmed to be allowed

Solution
Put all finished and (almost) essential add-ons & scripts in the same place, with the same thread lay out.
This can be done in HV System Discussion forum.
- First post is where the script / add-on is
- Managed / updated by the creator if needed

Naturally, all the chat-threads about scripts, that you know and love, stay where they are. You can use HV Script chat to:

• discuss ideas for features or scipts,
• share minimal viable products,
• chat about how to develop something,
• etc, etc.

Consequence
- First consequence of this is that the finished scripts have been moved away from the HV Chat forum.
- Other cosequence is that you can't chat about ideas or development in the Script threads in the HV System Discussion forum.

Benefits

1. All finished, (almost) essential and legal scripts & add-ons in one place
2. Overview in one glance of available (almost) essential enhancements
3. Complete freedom to discuss /chat about development or feature whish-lists in HV Chat.

Status
For now, 4 scripts have been moved:
- Monsterbation + Crunkjuice
- HV Red
- HV Toolbox

Your opinion please
So, what do you guys ladies&gentlemen persons think?

This post has been edited by DJNoni: Nov 17 2017, 10:53

Reorganizing a bit.

Issue that needed solving
Bnefits


Your opinion please
So, what do you guys think?

Even though I'm not a lady, not a gentlemen, not a guy, not a person, I think this: you are the legendary moderator who half-does things. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

I'd jave just moved everything there, period. Maybe then some badmouths would stop saying that this section is useless. Finished scripts should be talked about in their own thread in the HV System section, period.

the legendary moderator who half-does things

I like that title! Quite fitting. (especially the legendary bit (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) )

I'd jave just moved everything there, period. Maybe then some badmouths would stop saying that this section is useless. Finished scripts should be talked about in their own thread in the HV System section, period.

Okay, so you'd prefer all script stuff to be in System. And you agree that each (almost essential) finished script gets it's own thread. Thanks for your input!

Who else wants to share their thoughts?

That's not the only change that will occur, btw, since we're actually trying to address all reports that came to us and to make the forum a bit more rational.

The final goal is basically to make the threads fill their original purposes and to reduce the overall amount of offtopic. Or at least to confine them into specific areas, as it should be.

speaking about reports, some people noted at different moments that searching on Ask the Experts (22234) has become a bit hard.

we thought about splitting it starting from one of the most recent patches, but sadly that's not possible.
what we could (and will) do is to make a new one, which will replace the current 22234. we'll eventually transfer some of the relevant content from the older one into the newer one, and eventually implehement some of the guides that are hanging around here to build a FAQ.

so, once again your opinion, people: anything in particular that we should preserve?

so, once again your opinion, people: anything in particular that we should preserve?

If you have someway ti quickly search for "code" tag in the posts, check them first. Mostly, if person used "code" rags, then he probably posted some stats, formulas of tabular data - those might be useful and valuable.

To be honest, this is the only thing that might be potentially useful to take into new thread. All other questions and posts are either duplicate of what Advice/Advice Advanced/ FAQ are saying or are just to subjective and biased. Of cource, you can find few shiny gems here and there, for example about how Agility affects heavy melee performance but to finding them in this bin is too hard to care about.

In best case scenario you and Noni should manually read last, say, 3000 posts and copy the important ones, but I believe you, guys, have better things to do. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

So, overal, don't care that match to get everything useful and good.

people: anything in particular that we should preserve?

Are you going to delete the thread or just close it and copy some stuff to the new one?

There are too much useful information (discussions) that onyone can find easily by using the right keywords. Questions about every style, weapons and the point of view of many players. "How many guys have done the same that I do?" "Is it possible to go this way till the end?" Then you can find one guy that posted a month ago, 3 months, half a year ago, etc. You guys can't just choose some things that you consider useful because there are many people who never comment but read that thread often, searching for answers without bothering others

Are you going to delete the thread or just close it and copy some stuff to the new one?

Just close it, probably unpin it, and use it as archive.

There are too much useful information (discussions) that onyone can find easily by using the right keywords.

That's the problem. Search doesn't work anymore in Ask the Experts. Even with the right keywords, it will limit the search to the first 1000 posts. Not nearly enough to find what you're looking for....

Example: the most recent discussion was about reducing mana cost. Go to the last page and search for Reduce Mana. Newest post you'll find is from July this year, and all other results are about now obsolete HV versions.

This is what we're trying to fix. Make Search Great Again!

So I just saw the Ask the Experts 2018 thread and had a heart attack. I though the old one was gone, but luckily its still there and hopefully, it will still be there 10 years from now.

I don't think having a Ask the Experts v2 is a bad idea and I don't think its necessary to import any of the old posts into the new thread since people can always refer to the old thread if needed.

I just hope there's a clear deadline on when the old one is going to close so that we can tie up our lose ends and say our goodbyes.

One thing that can help with longevity of the new Experts thread:

Split the traffic it gets in two.
This thread could used for "how does the game work?" questions, while "ask the experts" could be "what should I do?" questions.

One is basically facts, wiki links, and pointing people to where they can read factual answers.

The other is opinion. Is left or right better? How cool is an arctic mace?

There will probably be some overlap, but the overall forum layout supports this style of thinking. If you want to just chat, general chat is where you go. If you want to talk about some anime there is a section for that. Video games? A section for that. Can you draw? A section for that. And so on. Hentaiverse has three sections (and the WTS and WTB subsections). Corraling everything about HV into one section, and almost entirely to the one thread: ask the experts, pretty much makes everything HV-related wind up in that one thread.

Then some regulars occasionally spam between arenas into a few of the "conversation" and "bragging" threads.

So I just saw the Ask the Experts 2018 thread and had a heart attack. I though the old one was gone, but luckily its still there and hopefully, it will still be there 10 years from now.

we don't plan on deleting it, if it's what you mean. just unpin it, point at it at the start of the new thread and close it. eventually it'll fall into second page, but that's a given.

I just hope there's a clear deadline on when the old one is going to close so that we can tie up our lose ends and say our goodbyes.

well, in case that a .87 patch hits before the end of the year, it could be a clear deadline, yep. otherwise, don't know. around the end of the year/start of the new one. yuletide lottery could be another starting point.

well, there's still one month to think about it and we still have to import some infos from the various guides, but you got the point, i guess...

One thing that can help with longevity of the new Experts thread:

Split the traffic it gets in two.
This thread could used for "how does the game work?" questions, while "ask the experts" could be "what should I do?" questions.

one objective and one made of brainstorming? hmm...

Corraling everything about HV into one section, and almost entirely to the one thread: ask the experts, pretty much makes everything HV-related wind up in that one thread.

not only. up until now i encouraged people to give an answer rather than simply being pointed out what to read and where to post. this basically brought up the whole section to be a whole ask-the-experts section.

apart for noting it myself, i was (rightfully) pointed out that basically even the easy-going threads were a discussion ground. this is another thing i hope to fix.

If you have someway ti quickly search for "code" tag in the posts, check them first. Mostly, if person used "code" rags, then he probably posted some stats, formulas of tabular data - those might be useful and valuable.

seems it's not possible, sadly. maybe with google, but surely not with forum's tools. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

Just close it, probably unpin it, and use it as archive.

That's the problem. Search doesn't work anymore in Ask the Experts. Even with the right keywords, it will limit the search to the first 1000 posts. Not nearly enough to find what you're looking for....

I've had that problem too, but it's better than nothing (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Thank you

well, in case that a .87 patch hits before the end of the year, it could be a clear deadline, yep. otherwise, don't know. around the end of the year/start of the new one. yuletide lottery could be another starting point.

I think December 31 or even Christmas would be a good time.

Question about auctions:

Everyone should be allowed to make an auction, and if it is any good we'll pin the thread.

However, I was thinking that there should be a maximum amount of days for pinned auctions. Otherwise, it's just a WTS with high visibility. Especially when there is a high starting bid. 4 days max? Or 5 maybe?

What do you think?

Question about auctions:

Everyone should be allowed to make an auction, and if it is any good we'll pin the thread.

However, I was thinking that there should be a maximum amount of days for pinned auctions. Otherwise, it's just a WTS with high visibility. Especially when there is a high starting bid. 4 days max? Or 5 maybe?

What do you think?

I'd say that in all cases, an entire week is enough. Going beyond that is perfectly useless, for no real reason. It's more a matter of pertinence of the duration for the said item than the pinning itself. If someone never visits the WTS to look for rare items, sucks for him and for the seller.

I do encourage players to auction their very high value item by themselves and I am positive regarding pinning them, because just like these individuals who post these auctions for single items, I consider that a general auctioneer shouldn't be earning millions for doing next to nothing. But I am also against players who try to abuse the visibility of an auction to disguise their WTS, make their not so special items stand out of the mass and get their stuff to go away in stead of other, legit shop owners.
For those last ones, not only they shouldn't be pinned, they should even be locked IMHO.

I'd say that in all cases, an entire week is enough. Going beyond that is perfectly useless, for no real reason. It's more a matter of pertinence of the duration for the said item than the pinning itself. If someone never visits the WTS to look for rare items, sucks for him and for the seller.

I do encourage players to auction their very high value item by themselves and I am positive regarding pinning them, because just like these individuals who post these auctions for single items, I consider that a general auctioneer shouldn't be earning millions for doing next to nothing. But I am also against players who try to abuse the visibility of an auction to disguise their WTS, make their not so special items stand out of the mass and get their stuff to go away in stead of other, legit shop owners.
For those last ones, not only they shouldn't be pinned, they should even be locked IMHO.

Just posting to say I concur with this. A week seems like a good maximum time for an auction.

I'd really like a non-forum based market system ideally, but with our current infrastructure this is valid & about as reasonable as it's going to get.