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post Jan 4 2011, 01:30
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QUOTE(cmdct @ Jan 3 2011, 16:46) *

Razor was asking for tips regarding survive longer as melee character, and magic rating doesn't affect regen.


Eh, maybe it was low interference for haste then. But that was my melee setup. silk/phase, rapier, shield. High burden gets you killed either way, low burden high evade high aspd means enemies hit less and less often, which I found to reduce damage significantly more than heavy armor, especially combined with high regen.
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post Jan 4 2011, 01:34
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Yeah, that probably is the case. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

I'll go forth and try to find some decent pieces of Silk, then, to make a super good melee set-up (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

I'll try to make sure to get at least one piece of "the Priestess" silk for the curative proficiency bonus to get higher Regen abilities and I'll make sure that they all have fairly high evade (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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post Jan 4 2011, 01:39
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QUOTE(marcho @ Jan 3 2011, 23:30) *

Eh, maybe it was low interference for haste then. But that was my melee setup. silk/phase, rapier, shield. High burden gets you killed either way, low burden high evade high aspd means enemies hit less and less often, which I found to reduce damage significantly more than heavy armor, especially combined with high regen.
The shield becomes less efficient, as your stats raise, without bleeding, and being slower also means more hits.
I personally use kevlar+ high evade silk + high damage rapier+high damage dagger.
Kevlar+high damage to kill 1-shot mobs.

@Razor: The Priestess gear won't do any good on griding, use high evade silk.
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post Jan 4 2011, 01:43
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QUOTE(cmdct @ Jan 3 2011, 17:39) *

The shield becomes less efficient, as your stats raise, without bleeding, and being slower also means more hits.
I personally use kevlar+ high evade silk + high damage rapier+high damage dagger.
Kevlar+high damage to kill 1-shot mobs.

@Razor: The Priestess gear won't do any good on griding, use high evade silk.


Kevlar is also good, right? I currently use this piece of Kevlar....that also good?
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post Jan 4 2011, 01:49
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the interference seems to be a little high, but that should not matter if it stays below 25
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post Jan 4 2011, 01:50
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QUOTE(hyl @ Jan 3 2011, 17:49) *

the interference seems to be a little high, but that should not matter if it stays below 25


Unfortunately, the interference will be around 6.8 by Level 260, but I have no intentions of levelling it up right now.

What is considered high evade silk? >5% >4%?
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post Jan 4 2011, 01:51
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probably something atleast like this

edit: or this (my old low level robe)

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post Jan 4 2011, 01:57
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QUOTE(Razorflame @ Jan 3 2011, 23:50) *

Unfortunately, the interference will be around 6.8 by Level 260, but I have no intentions of levelling it up right now.

What is considered high evade silk? >5% >4%?
Depends of what part it is but:
cap 5.5
robe 6
Gloves 4.75
Pants 5.5
Shoes 4.5
These are the base values where you can start spending hundreds of credits since they're rare. Above that it's even rarer.

Hyl's robes fit under that.

Edit:
Kevlar ofers less protection than silk, I use them because I can 1-shot mobs with the extra STR from them allowing to save me turns, and hits.

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post Jan 4 2011, 02:00
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i said atleast the flee of my robes:p

edit: doesn't this topic say that priestess armour can be usefull at times?
https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=31354

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post Jan 4 2011, 02:18
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QUOTE(cmdct @ Jan 3 2011, 17:39) *

The shield becomes less efficient, as your stats raise, without bleeding, and being slower also means more hits.
I personally use kevlar+ high evade silk + high damage rapier+high damage dagger.
Kevlar+high damage to kill 1-shot mobs.

@Razor: The Priestess gear won't do any good on griding, use high evade silk.


Or higher evade priestess phase :3

I found the shield worthwhile, 42 evade 42 block gave pretty massiv avoidance to everthing, especially at the 90-110 level before I started on the facemelting timesaving path. was under 20-25 for both burden and interference as well.
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post Jan 4 2011, 02:38
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QUOTE(marcho @ Jan 4 2011, 00:18) *

Or higher evade priestess phase :3
If you can find it, I didn't saw any phase after 4.0. with equal evade of the best fleet.
My point was, when you grind each round increase 1% damage from hits, making the extra % from evade a lot better.

QUOTE(marcho @ Jan 4 2011, 00:18) *
I found the shield worthwhile, 42 evade 42 block gave pretty massiv avoidance to everthing, especially at the 90-110 level before I started on the facemelting timesaving path. was under 20-25 for both burden and interference as well.
It is at those levels, but as you level up DW will win, in fact even on bigger monsters DW wins, because you'll recast more the buffers/de-buffers wasting more MP. (1HS vs 2W on RoB, I tested myself in 170-180s)
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post Jan 4 2011, 02:53
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If I'm not mistaken, Razor intends to switch to mage-meltacular as soon as it is 1-shot viable for him, so my advice really only concerned levels 90-110.

and I have a 6.75 base evade priestess phase I offered to lend him, also what I was referring to :3
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post Jan 4 2011, 03:00
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QUOTE(marcho @ Jan 4 2011, 00:53) *

and I have a 6.75 base evade priestess phase I offered to lend him, also what I was referring to :3
Oh, it's one of your pre-nerf phase pieces (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
Btw can you post your pieces to see?
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post Jan 4 2011, 03:03
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QUOTE(marcho @ Jan 3 2011, 18:53) *

If I'm not mistaken, Razor intends to switch to mage-meltacular as soon as it is 1-shot viable for him, so my advice really only concerned levels 90-110.

and I have a 6.75 base evade priestess phase I offered to lend him, also what I was referring to :3


Yeah, I intend to switch over the one-shot maging as soon as I can start to do so.

My only problem that I forsee is beating Endgame without maging (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif).

Yeah, marcho did offer to lend me those priestess phase...I did not take it at the time cause I didn't know any better, now that I do, I think I might take up that offer (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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post Jan 4 2011, 03:27
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Endgame is pretty easy as melee, has been for a long time (unless you were doing it as a tank like I was after the nerf).

Axe + Rapier + Evade. Load up on Scrolls and Infusions if you're worried.
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post Jan 4 2011, 03:33
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QUOTE(cmal @ Jan 3 2011, 19:27) *

Endgame is pretty easy as melee, has been for a long time (unless you were doing it as a tank like I was after the nerf).

Axe + Rapier + Evade. Load up on Scrolls and Infusions if you're worried.


Ok, thanks for the help. I was planning on bringing in Scrolls of the Gods (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) as well as Scrolls of Swiftness or some other kind of scroll and possibly some Infusions.

I also was going to bring in mostly Health Elixirs instead of my usual Godly Health Potions because of the double duration.

I'm fairly certain that I'll be able to make it through the arena, but I am just worried about the final round (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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post Jan 4 2011, 16:25
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are you taking too much damage?
do you use some deprecating spells?
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post Jan 4 2011, 21:18
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Don't know why I took so long to clear the arenas up to trio on BT.

(IMG:[i55.tinypic.com] http://i55.tinypic.com/21kl1s6.jpg)


Well I took the day off, and after 5 hours I cleared all the arenas up to Eve of Death on Battletoads, which is not bad, considering 30 levels below, I needed more time just to clear BT trio alone.

Worth it? No, not in equipment, items, or credits, but the XP was nice (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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post Jan 4 2011, 21:59
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QUOTE(cmdct @ Jan 4 2011, 13:18) *

Don't know why I took so long to clear the arenas up to trio on BT.

(IMG:[i55.tinypic.com] http://i55.tinypic.com/21kl1s6.jpg)


Well I took the day off, and after 5 hours I cleared all the arenas up to Eve of Death on Battletoads, which is not bad, considering 30 levels below, I needed more time just to clear BT trio alone.

Worth it? No, not in equipment, items, or credits, but the XP was nice (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


Yeah, I usually complete my arenas on Normal to minimize the amount of items that I use. I've completed the first two arenas on BT, but I probably won't complete the rest on BT until I am around your level (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

And yeah, the experience you gain must've been massive (like a 200,000-400,000 experience a round or something like that (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

I know hito gained nearly 5 million experience on the final round of one of the arenas he cleared on BT...you probably did quite well as well in terms of the experience you gained on the final round of Trio...I'm betting somewheres in the 1-2.5 million XP range (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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post Jan 5 2011, 11:40
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QUOTE(cmdct @ Jan 4 2011, 19:18) *

Don't know why I took so long to clear the arenas up to trio on BT.

Well I took the day off, and after 5 hours I cleared all the arenas up to Eve of Death on Battletoads, which is not bad, considering 30 levels below, I needed more time just to clear BT trio alone.

Worth it? No, not in equipment, items, or credits, but the XP was nice (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


I did Eve of Death on BT for the first time last week. I only did it because it looked bad with the others ones done on BT (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

on another note, BT Tiro still sucks for drops (no shock there) but damn it would be nice to get something other then potions.

55 19 You gain 1649 Credits!
55 18 You gain 1400838.49 EXP!
55 17 Your HP and MP have been fully restored!
55 16 Arena Token Bonus! [Token of Healing]
55 15 Arena Clear Bonus! [Godly Mana Potion]
55 14 Skuld dropped [Godly Mana Potion]
55 13 Yggdrasil dropped [Sapling]
55 12 Urd dropped [Godly Health Potion]
55 11 Verdandi dropped [Godly Mana Potion]
55 10 You are Victorious!

Been thinking of doing End of Days on BT but I'm not sure I'd like that much pain, I'd like to do more damage too.
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