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Ah. That's true, I suppose. Opportunity cost. But that should lower the prices of stuff on market, no?

No, it means that the guys who are already rich enough and can generate their own hath by the 100s daily and can buy anything on the market are the same people winning the great items in the lottery.

Yes, but the problem is that GP hit rock bottom before the introduction of lottery: people's desire for porn isn't enough, so there needs to be a way to recycle the GPs. And HV has been such a great credit sink so why not adding another functionality to that. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

And well it does encourage people to participate in H@H for those haths and GPs. So the question is: are we not going to be able to grind without those epic peerless equipments? How much difference there is when you compare peerless and forged legendary?

This post has been edited by varst: Dec 25 2013, 08:19

So the question is: are we not going to be able to grind without those epic peerless equipments? How much difference there is when you compare peerless and forged legendary?

lol

Lottery is not at fault but drop rates.

This is the truest statement about HV atm. When I was level 80 (lotd was 5), I dropped a random Leg Fiery Redwood of Destruct, which was exciting. I haven't dropped a Leg weapon since then.

People complained about the equips' quality in the lottery. Now that it's guaranteed to be good, people should be satisfied...right? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Tbh I haven't even seen anything that I can use.

Remove GP prizes, and the guy who has done more H@H for the site in the past year than next two guys in the all-time toplist put together will have even more GP comparatively, as not only others don't get GP to compete but GP becomes more scarce.

Isn't that the point? so without GP prizes, no one other than H@H'ers can compete? There are other ways to generate GP besides consolation prizes.

Honestly, I think the HV Lottery is just a bad idea overall.
All it did was further widen the gap among rich and poor players.

I agree. I propose eliminating the lottery altogether and instituting a system to 1. use GPs to play the same arenas/RoBs multiple times a day. 2. Convert GPs to tokens, either chaos (20k GP per) of blood (100k GP per).

For a poor person, saving up GPs to buy blood tokens for the chance to play TTT is much more meaningful than some minuscule chance of winning a peerless estoc. Isn't it?

treesloth: You're confusing poor and rich.

First of all, a poor person can still play rounds to get tokens, this is near the most equal thing in HV. By selling tokens or RoB entries, you make the richer stronger in linear relation to their funds, not their time.

Secondly? Frankly, the poor person can instead sell those 1mil kGPs on the market, like they sell Noodly Appendages in WTB.

And last but not least, if the poor could easily generate GP in other ways, they wouldn't be poor.

treesloth: You're confusing poor and rich.

First of all, a poor person can still play rounds to get tokens, this is near the most equal thing in HV. By selling tokens or RoB entries,

You need a lesson in reading comprehension. I don't believe I ever said anything about selling or buying tokens between players. It would be a system conversion; no trading going on.

richer stronger in linear relation to their funds, not their time.

That is what HV is all about, or have you not realized?

Secondly? Frankly, the poor person can instead sell those 1mil kGPs on the market, like they sell Noodly Appendages in WTB.

They can do that now anyway.

And last but not least, if the poor could easily generate GP in other ways, they wouldn't be poor.

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) What's your point?

Hide the number of total ticket sold and your win % chance and reveal it once the ticket selling closed.

There, more evil and more fun without having to change anything. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

That's a damn good idea! This way certain players that rhyme with RonySplat won't know how much to bid in order to take the pot. Leaving it a mystery should help even the odds. I'm just curious as to what the continuous auction winner is even doing with this equipment. I see no shop. I see no trading (at least in the public forums). What is the point? Greed? Collecting? OCD? I'm puzzled. I'm not hating, but I see no reason to continuously piss everyone off in order to accumulate more of the same crap they already have. Whatever.

This post has been edited by brewdonkey: Dec 25 2013, 11:00

Just let us scrap the Lottery, instead let us buy strait up +% Attack power for GP.
Surely the whining of the poor will stop now (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

That's a damn good idea! This way certain players that rhyme with RonySplat won't know how much to bid in order to take the pot. Leaving it a mystery should help even the odds. I'm just curious as to what the continuous auction winner is even doing with this equipment. I see no shop. I see no trading (at least in the public forums). What is the point? Greed? Collecting? OCD? I'm puzzled. I'm not hating, but I see no reason to continuously piss everyone off in order to accumulate more of the same crap they already have. Whatever.

Except by now he has a good Idea of how much to spend when a assrape weapon shows up.

This post has been edited by Ichy: Dec 25 2013, 11:07

I agree. I propose eliminating the lottery altogether and instituting a system to 1. use GPs to play the same arenas/RoBs multiple times a day. 2. Convert GPs to tokens, either chaos (20k GP per) of blood (100k GP per).

Yes, this will surely NOT widen the gap among rich and poor players, right? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

And yet everyone's so critical when the poor are complaining...life's unfair when it's about YOUR life, right?

This post has been edited by varst: Dec 25 2013, 11:37

Yes, this will surely NOT widen the gap among rich and poor players, right? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

And yet everyone's so critical when the poor are complaining...life's unfair when it's about YOUR life, right?

I had completely forgot about that thread, and how the complainers got completely destroyed over there. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Why are people not investing in HV if they want to win the lottery, you can bet on it that Stonycat's bank account isn't happy with HV. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

This post has been edited by SoraNoAki: Dec 25 2013, 12:01

And yet everyone's so critical when the poor are complaining...life's unfair when it's about YOUR life, right?

The gap (and the pay-to-win advantage) back then wasn't as big as today. When the time that thread was made, I think you didn't even get GP through the dawn event yet.
Right now, it is practically impossible to compete in the lottery unless you're rolling in cash.

edit: Reading through that thread again, it was more of a "long-time player advantage vs new guy" instead of "big spender vs non-payer".

And hath servers got boosted from 3 to 7 recently, further widening the pay-to-win advantage.
Man, I wish Tenboro would update the End-of-Year Awards to give a similar amount, maybe then I could stand a chance to catch up with the big spenders a little. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
edit: or not, since the big spenders probably also have these End-of-Year awards lol.

This post has been edited by Rei-Tenshi: Dec 25 2013, 12:10

I had completely forgot about that thread, and how the complainers got completely destroyed over there. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Why are people not investing in HV if they want to win the lottery, you can bet on it that Stonycat's bank account isn't happy with HV. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

If he has an okay Job 100-200$ per month for Servers is not much.

The gap (and the pay-to-win advantage) back then wasn't as big as today. When the time that thread was made, I think you didn't even get GP through the dawn event yet.
Right now, it is practically impossible to compete in the lottery unless you're rolling in cash.

edit: Reading through that thread again, it was more of a "long-time player advantage vs new guy" instead of "big spender vs non-payer".

As I said, you can still advance without peerless/legendary equipments. It's not difficult to reach 300+ level these days and get millions of credits without H@H/gold stars. So the lottery isn't essential for you to survive here; you can go without it and still grinds on IWBTH T&T regularly.

I have to agree though that the gap's widening. But then people has been paying real cash for haths/credits/equips long before the rise of the lottery; I've seen a 200+ new player asking if anyone's willing to sell him some decent equips for real cash recently. So lottery isn't the main cause here; and let's admit it, as HV's becoming a bit more popular, that will happen eventually. Cause it does help to narrow down the gap.

And yes, I've suggested raising the award's output before. Right now the reward's like a slap in the face to those who helped a lot during the past few years.

This post has been edited by varst: Dec 25 2013, 12:53

If he has an okay Job 100-200$ per month for Servers is not much.

Where do you get these servers then lol, I can't seem to find cheap ones. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Where do you get these servers then lol, I can't seem to find cheap ones. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

google (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Pay 2 Win.. what exactly? There is no PvP. How do you win?

Pay 2 Win.. what exactly? There is no PvP. How do you win?

dunno lol

dunno lol

Exactly. So if you don't like the lottery, I suggest you pretend it's not there. It doesn't affect the game in any significant way. The lottery gear makes up on average 5% of all legendary/peerless equipment created on a given day.

After all, you don't call for the Mega Millions lottery to shut down just because some asshole won hundreds of millions there. You just don't play it. Or you go tits to the wall crazy and buy hundreds of tickets, whatever floats your boat.

Pay 2 Win.. what exactly? There is no PvP. How do you win?

Call it Freemium advantage then... or whatever those guys at the Apple/Google stores call where you spend real money to get boosts in their games.

After all, you don't call for the Mega Millions lottery to shut down just because some asshole won hundreds of millions there.

People aren't complaining because "some asshole won hundreds of millions" here.

It's because the same people keep winning over and over again. That's what's killing the fun in this lottery.
(Yeah, I know I know, it's supposed to be a GP sink, etc etc, but it's still not good for the morale of the playerbase when something like this happens.)

People aren't complaining because "some asshole won hundreds of millions" here.

It's because the same people keep winning over and over again. That's what's killing the fun in this lottery.
(Yeah, I know I know, it's supposed to be a GP sink, etc etc, but it's still not good for the morale of the playerbase when something like this happens.)

It's just the way of the world, the wealthy always have the better toys and chances to get them (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

Sometimes, I think my ship was do come in, but it was named "Titanic", so you just get by with what you have (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)