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Jan 22 2012, 19:58
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trikon000
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@varst Then Tenboro should make it conditional on the title change for the for anything higher than the title of Newbie or Beginner or Novice. That should cover the first 19 lvls.
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Jan 22 2012, 19:58
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oumi11
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QUOTE(sigo8 @ Jan 22 2012, 09:56)  But the cost per turn went up
Try using spirit mode and check the cost again.
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Jan 22 2012, 20:16
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varst
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@trikon000
I think you need at least lv.100 in order to survive. It's also the level which you get your first meaningful title.
But that's not the main problem. Let's take a look at IW. If there's difficulty for players to clear an IW (scaled to the player's level), how can the players improve their gears? And if you can't improve your gears, how are you going to survive facing those monsters which hp is scaled to your level?
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Jan 22 2012, 20:20
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Argos
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Huh, this would explain why I'm getting my ass handed to me today. It takes forever to clear one round and I'm running out of potions very quickly. Sucks to be mage now.
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Jan 22 2012, 20:21
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Ichy
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QUOTE(varst @ Jan 22 2012, 19:16)  @trikon000
I think you need at least lv.100 in order to survive. It's also the level which you get your first meaningful title.
But that's not the main problem. Let's take a look at IW. If there's difficulty for players to clear an IW (scaled to the player's level), how can the players improve their gears? And if you can't improve your gears, how are you going to survive facing those monsters which hp is scaled to your level?
Also how to grind for Crystals to make Monsters? People now need the Forge more then ever!
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Jan 22 2012, 20:22
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hitokiri84
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Jan 22 2012, 03:56)  - Monster health now scales by an additional factor of 1/200 per level. Monster health bonus for increasing difficulty was decreased. You've done it again Trollboro. Thanks for making your already slow and tedious game take 5x longer to clear per round, even on normal, and thanks for destroying what little practicality Crysfest actually gained from the last patch.
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Jan 22 2012, 20:25
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Bunko
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Jan 22 2012, 20:22)  You've done it again Trollboro. Thanks for making your already slow and tedious game take 5x longer to clear per round, even on normal, and thanks for destroying what little practicality Crysfest actually gained from the last patch.
I agrees, even if it's worth nothing.
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Jan 22 2012, 20:26
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hzqr
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QUOTE(Ichy @ Jan 22 2012, 18:21)  Also how to grind for Crystals to make Monsters? People now need the Forge more then ever! ...which requires materials that are hard too get. ...which prompts people to create more powerful monsters. ...which makes the game even more harder. ...which leads to even more people needing to use the Forge.
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Jan 22 2012, 20:26
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trikon000
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When I was below 100, doing IW was impractical at the time. When I was lvl 86, I could barely do the minimum rounds in arena, in IW the rounds where double. I would never finish them. I came to the conclusion already that IW was broken for low levels, this patch only made it worse. I didn't waste my time in IW after that, I still don't. It would have to fundamentally change to be fixed.
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Jan 22 2012, 20:27
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tsobicily
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After I lose a battle and waste 3 blood token, i realized the now the interference makes all my skills now use almost double of the mana than what i use to need, why can't we have the updates posted in the news page, so i can notice them earlier.
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Jan 22 2012, 20:28
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Bunker Buster
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you know if you wanted to screw over the higher levels pretty badly why not hook the HP bonus to powerlevel instead of monster level
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Jan 22 2012, 20:29
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oumi11
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Is it just me, or are the mages who have been laughing at the melees finally feel the pain and can whine about it?
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Jan 22 2012, 20:32
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Ichy
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QUOTE(Bunker Buster @ Jan 22 2012, 19:28)  you know if you wanted to screw over the higher levels pretty badly why not hook the HP bonus to powerlevel instead of monster level
886% HP Boost to Lisi? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) QUOTE(oumi11 @ Jan 22 2012, 19:29)  Is it just me, or are the mages who have been laughing at the melees finally feel the pain and can whine about it?
Mages already got alot of nerves. This post has been edited by Ichy: Jan 22 2012, 20:33
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Jan 22 2012, 20:32
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Bunker Buster
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also can we get +prof bonuses on our armor for weapon skills (dual wield, one hand, 2 hand) QUOTE(Ichy @ Jan 22 2012, 20:32)  886% HP Boost to Lisi? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) yep This post has been edited by Bunker Buster: Jan 22 2012, 20:33
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Jan 22 2012, 20:33
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dlhmmr
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QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Jan 22 2012, 11:22)  You've done it again Trollboro. Thanks for making your already slow and tedious game take 5x longer to clear per round, even on normal, and thanks for destroying what little practicality Crysfest actually gained from the last patch.
I third the opinion
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Jan 22 2012, 20:34
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rawrpies
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Patch 0.6.2: Nightmare is doable without to much concern.
Patch 0.6.3: Nightmare became undoable due to having to rely on evading everything or die. Heroic became the stable path to leveling.
Patch 0.6.4: Heroic got wobbly as most things now need 3 casts as 2 casts brings them to agitated.
Future predictions:
Patch 0.6.5: Heroic becomes undoable.
Patch 0.6.6: Hard becomes wobbly.
Patch 0.6.7: Hard becomes undoable.
Patch 0.6.8.: Patch 0.6.4 till 0.6.7 get recalled.
Not that I was planning on doing anything higher than normal untill I get 50/50 scavenger once I reach lvl 205.
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Jan 22 2012, 20:34
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tsobicily
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QUOTE(varst @ Jan 22 2012, 21:16)  @trikon000
I think you need at least lv.100 in order to survive. It's also the level which you get your first meaningful title.
But that's not the main problem. Let's take a look at IW. If there's difficulty for players to clear an IW (scaled to the player's level), how can the players improve their gears? And if you can't improve your gears, how are you going to survive facing those monsters which hp is scaled to your level?
I remember a way to beat ff7 is try not to level up that much, because monsters are level scaled, even the boss. i believe it's also applied here, so people should stop level up that fast.
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Jan 22 2012, 20:37
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varst
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@trikon000
Everyone have said things about IW, so I eon't talk about that again.
@Bunker Buster
Scaling according to PL doesn't work that well. People still are going to play through tons of grindfest, unless you scale it as PL/100. Which will then basically screws everyone in the same way.
@oumi11
I do think there're melees who whine about the hp buff...
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Jan 22 2012, 20:38
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Bunker Buster
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QUOTE(varst @ Jan 22 2012, 20:37)  @oumi11
I do think there're melees who whine about the hp buff...
just bunko the rest of us love it
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Jan 22 2012, 20:46
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hzqr
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QUOTE(Bunker Buster @ Jan 22 2012, 18:28)  you know if you wanted to screw over the higher levels pretty badly why not hook the HP bonus to powerlevel instead of monster level Or he could just do that while keeping the new HP bonus (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) HentaiVerse 0.6.5: Liselotte has more HP than Konata
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