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I just like to redraw it until it looks "natural" before any text is added.

Anyone good at leveling out gutters? Like with this?

This post has been edited by Super Shanko: Sep 24 2012, 11:03

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What's a good font to replace this?

(IMG:[i.imgur.com] http://i.imgur.com/s0WDo.png)

What's a good font to replace this?

Can't see it.

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CCspookytooth?

I could use some help again...

Remove the typed text. 5 hath + 5k C to anyone willing to take this up.

I could use some help again...

Remove the typed text. 5 hath + 5k C to anyone willing to take this up.

I should be able to do it - I think I have some time this evening.

I should be able to do it - I think I have some time this evening.

Cool... claim this when you're done (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Let me know if I missed something or if you want me to make any changes.

Awesome, thanks! Claim your reward whenever you want.

Here's an editing bounty from me:
[IzumuNizm (Noshi)] yh - a tail of hayate (Lyrical Nanoha) -> Edit, average note: Don't use the version posted to galleries, I've made a better quality rescan, so PM me for the raw.

Will also add a bounty for [ELHEART'S (Ibuki Pon)] ANOTHER FRONTIER 02 Mofa shaonuririkarurindisan #03 (Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Nanoha) once I've cleaned the re-scan. This one will probably be ~15k/15h or more due to considerable redrawing required.

This post has been edited by lightshader: Oct 5 2012, 03:20

Question:

Do you think stepping over and go outside the balloon border just to keep the font readable (and get done faster) is good editing?

This post has been edited by Palaxius: Oct 7 2012, 01:39

Question:

Do you think stepping over and go outside the balloon border just to keep the font readable (and get done faster) is good editing?

Is that an open question? Because for me, no. My only exception is sfx and random screaming or similar.

If balloons are EXTREMELY narrow, then I'd guess it's okay. Unless you don't mind redrawing bubbles to make them bit larger, like I did once for a doujin.

If balloons are tiny, then use different font that's more readable even when small (like the ones that uses lowercase like blamblot casual or thin lettering like blue highway/shadows into light). You also could adjust text width and make them narrower. Otherwise drop the font size a notch or two to make text fit, or use hyphenations (in proper paces, no weird break-ups of words).

Only if there's just simply no way to fit text, then having them bleed out of bubbles would be okay. If it's just for sake of making typesetting go faster, then that's just being lazy.

EDIT: Shanko's got good point as well, sfx and shouting have good tendency to break out of bubbles, so those are fine. But for regular dialogue, it's no-no. Unless it's in impossible cases like too much text for tiny/thin bubbles...

This post has been edited by lightshader: Oct 7 2012, 04:59

EDIT: Shanko's got good point as well, sfx and shouting have good tendency to break out of bubbles, so those are fine. But for regular dialogue, it's no-no. Unless it's in impossible cases like too much text for tiny/thin bubbles...

Unfortunately, it opens quite often ^^

Also, I believe some efforts can be done at the translation step by taking a few more minutes to make shorter sentences, using shorter synonyms, change the order of words, etc... I'm not sure all translators care about the size of the bubble when they translate it.

I often prefer this option (when it's possible) instead of breaking the typesetting homogeneity by always cheating here and there on fontsize, width...etc

At least, I prefer having it stepping a little over the bubble than having to write it in ridiculously small size or in vertical (I hate it, I only do it for moans, cries, etc...)



This post has been edited by catdrag0n: Oct 7 2012, 16:50

I don't know, because before I settle down for a fixed set of fonts I want to make sure everything is alright. I was told by one guy (out of eight who told me it was perfectly fine but still) that he couldn't read stuff.

https://e-hentai.org/g/531240/54841a67a4/

I admit I got carried away with the empty space in smaller balloons (there's plenty) but I hate to cut words, I also read it eight times before release and despite being crazy tired I could read it just fine. He was also complaining about the bottom balloon in the first page

https://e-hentai.org/s/785979d9be/396994-182

He couldn't quite figure out it was two people sharing the same balloon, again the only one out of everyone I asked.

By the way Super Shanko, at a certain point I think I will have to use your help on this

https://e-hentai.org/s/206da2d857/523973-4

Most of it is basic redraw but I don't want to mess the nipple up.

I don't know, because before I settle down for a fixed set of fonts I want to make sure everything is alright. I was told by one guy (out of eight who told me it was perfectly fine but still) that he couldn't read stuff.

https://e-hentai.org/g/531240/54841a67a4/

I admit I got carried away with the empty space in smaller balloons (there's plenty) but I hate to cut words, I also read it eight times before release and despite being crazy tired I could read it just fine. He was also complaining about the bottom balloon in the first page

https://e-hentai.org/s/785979d9be/396994-182

He couldn't quite figure out it was two people sharing the same balloon, again the only one out of everyone I asked.

I think it's pretty easy to understand here.

But you could try another way of differenciating the two sentences:

both in bold, one in black and the other one in white+black 1px contour? Also I would place the two sentences at the same distance of the border for a complete symmetry.

Also for the "Tch!" I would go for the same effect as in the raw: superposing them slightly shifted. You'd gain some place to put the girl sentence closer to the right border.

NB: I'm far from having the biggest XP in typesetting here, I might be wrong, it's just something you could try if you want to see how it looks (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

This post has been edited by catdrag0n: Oct 7 2012, 18:56

Truth to be told, I'm being polite here when I say the original effect and text placement for the tch balloon is crap, it looks someone was playing with the mouse during typesetting and dropped a shadow by pure accident. Even the translator for the thing had to ask for confirmation as the message was poorly conveyed. As for the font choosing I simply went with default for the girl and lite for the guy since he is sleep-talking for the entirety of the page, except for the "SHUT UP".

This post has been edited by Palaxius: Oct 7 2012, 19:13

By the way Super Shanko, at a certain point I think I will have to use your help on this

https://e-hentai.org/s/206da2d857/523973-4

Most of it is basic redraw but I don't want to mess the nipple up.

I'll play with her nipple later and see what I can do.....

And here's the end result:


I'm sure there's a few corrections needed, but I dout anything major.

This post has been edited by Super Shanko: Oct 8 2012, 03:24