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Jul 7 2015, 23:39
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wehasband
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QUOTE(Crystalium @ Jul 8 2015, 04:41)  Hi. I just wanted to ask if someone could help me out with a sentenece on this page: Does ネイヴがサボらないように見守っててあげる mean "I’ll watch out for you, Neivu, without leaving my eye off you."? You got the [keep an eye on you] part right. It seems that Neivu has a tendency to slack off work, hence he needs someone to keep an eye on him to make sure he doesn't do that.
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Jul 8 2015, 04:42
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Crystalium
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QUOTE(Dammon @ Jul 7 2015, 17:35)  "I'll keep watch over Neivu so that he doesn't slack off."
QUOTE(wehasband @ Jul 7 2015, 17:39)  You got the [keep an eye on you] part right. It seems that Neivu has a tendency to slack off work, hence he needs someone to keep an eye on him to make sure he doesn't do that.
That seems to make sense. Thanks. ~~~~~~ New question below ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I also have one clarifying question to ask. The line 「みたいな展開も悪くはないなあとか思ってしまった。思っただけです。」 on the bottom of this page here does imply that the epilogue-looking text above on the page is only a hypothetical scenario, not the real/actual epilogue that the author intends for the story, correct? This post has been edited by Crystalium: Jul 8 2015, 05:28
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Jul 8 2015, 07:45
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Dammon
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QUOTE(Crystalium @ Jul 7 2015, 19:42)  That seems to make sense. Thanks. ~~~~~~ New question below ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I also have one clarifying question to ask. The line 「みたいな展開も悪くはないなあとか思ってしまった。思っただけです。」 on the bottom of this page here does imply that the epilogue-looking text above on the page is only a hypothetical scenario, not the real/actual epilogue that the author intends for the story, correct? Yes.
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Jul 8 2015, 09:50
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Crystalium
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QUOTE(Dammon @ Jul 8 2015, 01:45)  Yes.
Thank you for confirming it.
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Jul 8 2015, 18:07
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yuripe
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Jul 10 2015, 04:11
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alearg
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Jul 10 2015, 11:05
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wehasband
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QUOTE(yuripe @ Jul 9 2015, 00:07)  はいそうでかと 引き下がる俺ではない Maybe [I never agreed to it, nor did I ever bring it up]? *Bring it up in the 'bring it up in conversation' sense. 庭付き一戸建ってのこの家は [This small house which included a garden] Quite literal. QUOTE(alearg @ Jul 10 2015, 10:11)  イッちゃうっ and イクっ are both variants of the emphatic utterance people cry out when they reach the point of orgasm. それは気の迷いで私が It seems that the girl had an argument about the corpulent guy banging her under false impressions, so why not go with [But you tricked me]
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Jul 10 2015, 11:30
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yuripe
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QUOTE(wehasband @ Jul 10 2015, 16:05)  はいそうでかと 引き下がる俺ではない Maybe [I never agreed to it, nor did I ever bring it up]? *Bring it up in the 'bring it up in conversation' sense.
庭付き一戸建ってのこの家は [This small house which included a garden] Quite literal.
Um, I don't really get with that "bring it up". Can it mean the boy doesn't want to leave her even with her unreasonable request, because 引き下がる can mean "leave" or am I wrong interpreting it? About the second one, thx :3
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Jul 10 2015, 11:48
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wehasband
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Ah, crap. Got my 下 and 上 mixed up again. So that's why it didn't make that much sense when I read it.
Ok, ignore what I put in earlier. How about [I was never one to just say sayonara from a request like that] or [I was never one to respond to that with an instant request for breakup]?
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Jul 10 2015, 15:52
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Thira
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QUOTE(yuripe @ Jul 8 2015, 16:07)  はいそうでかと 引き下がる引き下がるではない It's an idiom for "~ is a tough negotiator". QUOTE(yuripe @ Jul 8 2015, 16:07)  庭付き一戸建てのこの家は "This detached house with a garden is" QUOTE(alearg @ Jul 10 2015, 02:11)  それは気の迷いで私が "It's because of my transient misjudgement/miscalculation/delusion..."
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Jul 11 2015, 04:48
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yuripe
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QUOTE(wehasband @ Jul 10 2015, 16:48)  Ah, crap. Got my 下 and 上 mixed up again. So that's why it didn't make that much sense when I read it.
Ok, ignore what I put in earlier. How about [I was never one to just say sayonara from a request like that] or [I was never one to respond to that with an instant request for breakup]?
Hmm, I guess I can get it. QUOTE(Thira @ Jul 10 2015, 20:52)  It's an idiom for "~ is a tough negotiator".
Is that an idiom? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)
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Jul 11 2015, 05:20
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Thira
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QUOTE(yuripe @ Jul 11 2015, 02:48)  Is that an idiom? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) "はいそうですかと引き下がる" literally means "withdraw while saying'yes, I see'". So, "はいそうですかと引き下がる~ではない" means "~isn't a 'easy-negotiator'" or "~ is a tough negotiator".
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Jul 11 2015, 19:41
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Crystalium
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This might be a dumb question, and perhaps is one that cannot be answered without reading/skimming the whole story, but I will attempt to ask anyway to get clarification. This is my last question about this doujinshi. {The context for this question is 1) the main story and 2) the "epilogue" looking page on page 28} On this page, is the 別の世界線 he is talking about "different" in that 1) the events of the main story did happened, but the "epilogue" on the page prior did not and that rather the events of this 別の世界線 are the events that chronologically follow the events of the main story here - meaning that this new story acts as a real sequel or 2) In the 別の世界線, the events of this main story plus "epilogue" never happened and the new story is just using the same setting and characters, but a different history or 3) we can't tell? I ask because my reading of the last sentence of the previous page seems to suggest the "epilogue" on the privious page was only a hypothetical one, not the one that should be considered to have happened, yet at the same time, the author says あんまりくらいのもアレなので別の世界線的なただえろえろするだけのやつをもういっかいかきます, which (if I am interpreting it right) seem to act like the prior page's events did happen since he describes it as あんまりくらい. I just want to better understand the relationship of the main story and the 別の世界線 he talks about and to make his intent clear in the translation. If anyone has the time to answer this question anyway (which I understand might not happen as maybe you might need to read/skim the whole thing, and perhaps this question might seem to be a waste of time to invest answering)
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Jul 11 2015, 20:55
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Thira
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The author simply talks about the whole storyline. Like: "Since we don't like unhappy story much, I'll issue one more simple sweet and erotic one as another "parallel story."
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Jul 11 2015, 21:23
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Crystalium
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QUOTE(Thira @ Jul 11 2015, 14:55)  The author simply talks about the whole storyline. Like: "Since we don't like unhappy story much, I'll issue one more simple sweet and erotic one as another "parallel story."
Is he saying that because the events in the main story are "unhappy" or because the "unhappy" events described in the page 28 epilogue are considered to have actually happened? Because again, from the last line of page 28, I though he only entertained the idea of using the stuff on page 28 as the epilogue, but was not actually putting forth that page as the real epilogue to the main story since he ”思っただけです“ as he said. This post has been edited by Crystalium: Jul 11 2015, 21:31
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Jul 11 2015, 22:03
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Thira
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QUOTE(Crystalium @ Jul 11 2015, 19:23)  Is he saying that because the events in the main story are "unhappy" or because the "unhappy" events described in the page 28 epilogue are considered to have actually happened? As I already mentioned, the author talks about the "storyline". QUOTE(Crystalium @ Jul 11 2015, 19:23)  Because again, from the last line of page 28, I though he only entertained the idea of using the stuff on page 28 as the epilogue, but was not actually putting forth that page as the real epilogue to the main story since he ”思っただけです“ as he said. First, it's not a epilogue but a possible aftermath which will fit the storyline. "思っただけです" means "(though I don't work on it,) it may be fit". In other words, "it will be natural as the aftermath".
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Jul 11 2015, 22:49
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Crystalium
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QUOTE(Thira @ Jul 11 2015, 16:03)  As I already mentioned, the author talks about the "storyline".
Which does not include the "possible, yet fitting, aftermath" on page 28, correct? QUOTE(Thira @ Jul 11 2015, 16:03)  First, it's not a epilogue but a possible aftermath which will fit the storyline. "思っただけです" means "(though I don't work on it,) it may be fit". In other words, "it will be natural as the aftermath".
I understand that this isn't the actual continuation/aftermath/epilogue of the story base on the sentence on the bottom of page 28. My question was about the "another" story being an alternate story to what? I was thinking it could be any of the following: 1) To pages 2-27 - Meaning in this storyline, page 28 didn't happen (it is just an idea entertained by the author, but not the ending he is considering as canon for the story) and the author is just making another storyline with the same setting and characters that have no shared history with this storyline. As such, あんまりくらいのもアレなので refers to the uncertain future given in this storyline (the stuff talked about on this page) that isn't exactly given a proper fix. 2) To pages 2-28 - Meaning in this storyline, page 28 did happen, which is the あんまりくらいのもアレなので thing he is talking about as the impetus for him making the alternate storyline. In this case, the author again is just making another storyline with the same setting and characters that have no shared history with this storyline. 3) To page 28 - Meaning in this storyline, the "another" story functions as a sequel to pages 2-27 as opposed to page 28. In that case, both storylines have pages 2-27 in common, but one storyline has page 28 as the continuation and another has the "another" story as the continuation. That is what I am trying to understand. I am assuming it is the first one, but I am not totally sure which of the three it is, which is why I am asking for interpretations if you (or anyone) are willing to provide them. I apologize for trying your patience, and again, I am sorry if I am acting dense by asking such questions. This post has been edited by Crystalium: Jul 11 2015, 23:22
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Jul 11 2015, 23:15
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Thira
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QUOTE(Crystalium @ Jul 11 2015, 20:49)  My question was about the "another" story being an alternate story to what? To pages 1-27? Page 28? Pages 1-28 (which implies page 28 is the ending of pages 1-27)? That is what I am trying to understand. As I already mentioned, the author talks about "(unhappy) storyline (like this)". Not about a actual story and/or a part of it. In other words, he talks about "typical (stereotyped) unhappy storyline (like this)". And "別の世界線" simply means "another parallel storyline" (also means "one of the other possible storylines").
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Jul 11 2015, 23:30
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Crystalium
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QUOTE(Thira @ Jul 11 2015, 17:15)  As I already mentioned, the author talks about "(unhappy) storyline (like this)". Not about a actual story and/or a part of it.
In other words, he talks about "typical (stereotyped) unhappy storyline (like this)". And "別の世界線" simply means "another parallel storyline" (also means "one of the other possible storylines").
You lost me. I thought あんまりくらいのもアレなので means "Because being too unhappy/dark isn't good, (I'm going to write~~~)", meaning that he is referring to his own work and calling it あんまりくらい, and since it is あんまりくらい, that is why he is going to draw 別の世界線 as a alternative. My part of my question (as my edited posted above elaborates on) is about what あんまりくらい is referring to. What is あんまりくらい that compelled him to write another story? The stuff on page 28 or the stuff on page 14? Or both? Again, I elaborated my confusion in the edited above post. This post has been edited by Crystalium: Jul 11 2015, 23:31
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Jul 12 2015, 00:17
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Thira
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QUOTE(Crystalium @ Jul 11 2015, 21:30)  What is あんまりくらい that compelled him to write another story? All the explanations have been done already... Why do you split hairs to the trivial things that the author doesn't mention? Since "typical (stereotyped) unhappy storyline (like this)" is "あんまりくらい" as "エロマンガ", he'll get rid of the stress by issuing simple (storyless) "エロマンガ".
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