[X] My Assistant

I was melee at your level, I only abandoned melee almost completely after level 130 when I got AF. Even so, after filling the OC bonuses, I could always clear without item any challenge up to trio.

I'm just going to put it out there... There is ZERO. No chance. At all that I would be able to beat any 10+ Arenas by just melee (without the use of Items!). There is no way in hell. Unless you can manage to deal with this? (I did forget to activate Autocast on my buffs though, that's beside the point though.)

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12     8    Cockatrice hits you for 79 piercing damage.
12    7    Tentacle Monster hits you for 119 piercing damage.
12    6    Green Slime hits you for 67 crushing damage.
12    5    Rabid Hamster hits you for 128 piercing damage.

This is just a clip of how the damage looks like during 4th round. Now I do admit my gear (Light) is Average (To the somewhat new player) I guess so that part can be improved. But let's face facts here...

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2    12    You gain 179 Credits!
2    11    You gain 1156.47 EXP!
2    10    Your HP and MP have been fully restored!
2    9    Arena Clear Bonus! [Average Health Potion]
2    8    Tentacle Monster dropped [Health Elixir]
2    7    Mutant Peacock dropped [Greater Health Potion]
2    6    You are Victorious!
2    5    Mutant Peacock has been defeated.
2    4    Thunderstorm blasts Mutant Peacock for 1827 elec damage.
2    3    Apathetic Canuck has been defeated.
2    2    Thunderstorm hits Apathetic Canuck for 446 elec damage.
2    1    You cast Thunderstorm.

1    13    Apathetic Canuck hits you for 151 piercing damage.
1    12    Mutant Peacock hits you for 165 piercing damage.
1    11    Tentacle Monster has been defeated.
1    10    Chain Lightning hits Tentacle Monster for 1327 elec damage.
1    9    Mutant Peacock gains the effect Deep Burns.
1    8    Chain Lightning hits Mutant Peacock for 879 elec damage.
1    7    Apathetic Canuck gains the effect Deep Burns.
1    6    Chain Lightning hits Apathetic Canuck for 1857 elec damage.
1    5    Giant Panda has been defeated.
1    4    Chain Lightning hits Giant Panda for 1176 elec damage.
1    3    Cookie Monster has been defeated.
1    2    Chain Lightning hits Cookie Monster for 1014 elec damage.
1    1    You cast Chain Lightning.

Compare the two. One completes 5 rounds with the use one Health potion. The other just completed round 6 without any items. Take Dark Skies for example, I'm forced to use 1 elixir and roughly 3-4 Greater Health potions. Wheres my mage side Clears out Killzone without any.

As much as I want to only do melee there is no chance of that happening anytime soon by the looks of that (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) This is just me though but I didn't start playing Mage by choice- I simply have to >_>;;

Now, Can we have Staffs do Peirce damage instead? (Penetrate armor) and we're all settled =)

This is just a clip of how the damage looks like during 4th round. Now I do admit my gear (Light) is Average (To the somewhat new player) I guess so that part can be improved. But let's face facts here...

You can't do any miracles with crappy gear

I'm just going to put it out there... There is ZERO. No chance. At all that I would be able to beat any 10+ Arenas by just melee (without the use of Items!). There is no way in hell. Unless you can manage to deal with this? (I did forget to activate Autocast on my buffs though, that's beside the point though.)

Zero my ass, and btw I wasn't the only one to do it.

I didn't had IA for start, but (around l100) I had +40% evade, +40% block, and the important proficiencies close cap. Oh, and increasing INT (which gives nothing to a evade melee) in favor of other stats, makes you physically "weak".

This post has been edited by cmdct: Jan 12 2011, 03:43

I still play melee regularly; I'm only a part-time mage.

I still play melee regularly; I'm only a part-time mage.

My stats are so out of proportion now I couldn't if I wanted to.

STR 200 +14 +6
DEX 200 +11 +6
AGI 199 +30 +7
END 210 +11 +9
INT 250 +54 +9
WIS 237 +34 +5

See, the truth is, I hate magic. Magic makes me >=C and magic users are such cocksacks. The main reason I built up my ability to be a mage in HV is because there wasn't anything else to do.

Zero my ass, and btw I wasn't the only one to do it.

I didn't had IA for start, but (around l100) I had +40% evade, +40% block, and the important proficiencies close cap. Oh, and increasing INT (which gives nothing to a evade melee) in favor of other stats, makes you physically "weak".

Well, now that makes much more sense- I'm only about 20~/25 in comparison. (Sword+Shield) but cannot check now as I'm in IW right now. Guess I got a long way to go still. In all aspects *Shrugs* Oh well, Time for more Storms (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

(Beside the point, don't take it on yourself as I were only talking out of my point)

See, the truth is, I hate magic. Magic makes me >=C and magic users are such cocksacks. The main reason I built up my ability to be a mage in HV is because there wasn't anything else to do.

Lolwut? Why???

I'm raping HentaiVerse in the pooper with my staff.

I'm just going to put it out there... There is ZERO. No chance. At all that I would be able to beat any 10+ Arenas by just melee (without the use of Items!). There is no way in hell. Unless you can manage to deal with this? (I did forget to activate Autocast on my buffs though, that's beside the point though.)

I was melee til around Lvl 180 and beating all the Arenas regularly with no items.
And at around lvl 90, before I started getting decent stuff, my Evade/Block was around 25%/25%.
It's all definitely possible, even with crappy gear and no IA.

I just became a mage 2 or 3 levels ago because I just didn't have any bleeder weapons. My axe and rapier were okay but I eventually would be swarmed under by the hordes. My NI style would cause some bleeding but didn't do any real damage. And with no decent longsword, I made the change. I have a very good staff and would like to see how it does in the AoB. If that doesn't work, well I do have a few good shields. Now to find a 1-handed weapon if need be.

Load up on crappy MP items, go into a low arena, spam (Shield, Weaken, Cure), rinse and repeat. Non-damage spells are easy because they don't kill things.

Otherwise, your best bet is to go into a crappy IW on high difficulty and spam Condemn/Reaper. Wear defense armor rather than mage armor so you can focus on spamming spells instead of worrying about taking too much damage and taking a hit to your damage potential is desirable.

how is the IW you go into affected by the quality of the item?

Uh, I have 220 extra AP and a full Ability Tree. The others around my level are in the same boat.

so its actually possible to max out the ability tree?

That's quite obvious...

At 250 you've unlocked all tiers. I think It's roughly 510~ skills. By levels alone you have 250. Which means 260 left. Then you got the Trainer where you can gain +200 AP's. Not to mention, Artifacts gives unlimited AP's.

You lost me on the IW part though- As far as I know the only effect is the monsters having higher stats.

how is the IW you go into affected by the quality of the item?



so its actually possible to max out the ability tree?

Not sure what you mean with that first question.

And of course, though a significant investment in artifacts is required. I don't have quite as many extra AP as cmal has though.

how is the IW you go into affected by the quality of the item?

http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Category:HentaiVerse

so its actually possible to max out the ability tree?

yes... through Ability boost and artifacts...

Not sure what you mean with that first question.

And of course, though a significant investment in artifacts is required. I don't have quite as many extra AP as cmal has though.

Did I just do my very first 'Ninja'? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) x2

This post has been edited by Tearlow: Jan 12 2011, 14:34

my ether theft steals 5mp/turn

is this right?

i was asking if enemies were harder or something with different quality equipment, for IW. seems that is the case, at least that is what the wiki mentions

This is indeed so. An Average item is much easier then per say a Superior. By how much I don't know though.

meh
i'm changing to mage because less time wasted
simply, it'not that i love maging
(in every damn rpg played i was never a mage, necro caster or similiar stuff, this is my first time)

i'm still full kevlar + katana for item world, because i still have low maging prof

but damn i can do all arenas in higher difficulties in half time with maging

my ether theft steals 5mp/turn

is this right?

everybody else?