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Jan 10 2011, 22:57
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hgbdd
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QUOTE(tribalspirit @ Jan 10 2011, 20:46)  for us low levels monsters do yet too much damage
You can't do any miracles with crappy gear, at your level I could already finish all arenas without items...
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Jan 11 2011, 02:45
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tribalspirit
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you are forgetting that i am melee (even if full silk,kevlar)
you mages are starting to get a bit full of yourselves with your dammit inbalanced spells
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Jan 11 2011, 02:49
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hgbdd
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QUOTE(tribalspirit @ Jan 11 2011, 00:45)  you are forgetting that i am melee (even if full silk,kevlar)
you mages are starting to get a bit full of yourselves with your dammit inbalanced spells
I was melee at your level, I only abandoned melee almost completely after level 130 when I got AF. Even so, after filling the OC bonuses, I could always clear without item any challenge up to trio. This post has been edited by cmdct: Jan 11 2011, 02:52
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Jan 11 2011, 03:49
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Razorflame
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What are the best ways to grind profs for the following profs:
Supportive Curative Deprecating
I take it the best way to grind Forbidden and Divine profs are to get Condemn and Soul Reaper and go into a Crude item world on cake or something like that and just constantly cast Condemn/Soul Reaper, right?
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Jan 11 2011, 03:58
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grumpymal
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Load up on crappy MP items, go into a low arena, spam (Shield, Weaken, Cure), rinse and repeat. Non-damage spells are easy because they don't kill things.
Otherwise, your best bet is to go into a crappy IW on high difficulty and spam Condemn/Reaper. Wear defense armor rather than mage armor so you can focus on spamming spells instead of worrying about taking too much damage and taking a hit to your damage potential is desirable.
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Jan 11 2011, 03:59
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hgbdd
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QUOTE(Razorflame @ Jan 11 2011, 01:49)  What are the best ways to grind profs for the following profs:
Supportive Curative Deprecating
Cast a lot: flame spikes cure weaken QUOTE(Razorflame @ Jan 11 2011, 01:49)  I take it the best way to grind Forbidden and Divine profs are to get Condemn and Soul Reaper and go into a Crude item world on cake or something like that and just constantly cast Condemn/Soul Reaper, right?
Yes. This post has been edited by cmdct: Jan 11 2011, 03:59
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Jan 11 2011, 04:12
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Golden Sun
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QUOTE flame spikes Never thought of getting flame spikes for proficiency gains. Thanks.
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Jan 11 2011, 06:10
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lightshader
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I did a bit of run as mage today, mostly for staff profiency, and after using thunder AoE spell couple of times while on mana concelase, I can see why it's fun being mage. Alas, averaging about 35-50 damage per hit but it's a start. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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Jan 11 2011, 06:57
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Honeycat
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I leveled up in a matter of days rather than a matter of weeks playing as a mage. Part of it is because the mobs fall faster in a group rather than hitting them one by one the way you do dual wielding. I love that Wrath of Thor spell, holy crap. I don't watch TV anymore while I'm doing it out of boredom, I actually pay attention to what I'm doing and have some fun watching them fall.
I didn't try to power level or anything, I just played normally but I could definitely get my arenas done much easier and it was much more interesting to play. HV doesn't suck so much playing like this but man, my wrists are sore pressing keys. I actually played some IW and I didn't hate it.
This post has been edited by Tenseigamoon: Jan 11 2011, 07:00
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Jan 11 2011, 07:34
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BenderBRodriguez
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QUOTE(cmdct @ Jan 11 2011, 13:49)  I was melee at your level, I only abandoned melee almost completely after level 130 when I got AF. Even so, after filling the OC bonuses, I could always clear without item any challenge up to trio.
is this before melee nerf (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)?
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Jan 11 2011, 09:50
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Dominix
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What is the best combo of Deprecating spell?
silence is better than spark of life?
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Jan 11 2011, 10:31
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tribalspirit
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the best deprecating spell for your level is weaken... but for bosses and single monsters slow is even better QUOTE(cmdct @ Jan 11 2011, 03:49)  I was melee at your level, I only abandoned melee almost completely after level 130 when I got AF. Even so, after filling the OC bonuses, I could always clear without item any challenge up to trio.
have you idea how much credits and artifatcs will cost now all that AP to fill enough oc bonuses? This post has been edited by tribalspirit: Jan 11 2011, 10:46
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Jan 11 2011, 10:32
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hentai_fusion
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there is no best combo or which spell is better than which...
it all comes down to your own maging strategy...
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Jan 11 2011, 12:21
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BenderBRodriguez
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maging strategy/?i thought everyone's doing the same thing give or take 10%
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Jan 11 2011, 13:18
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hentai_fusion
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the core strategy is always aoe but even among aoe there are a number of different playing style... pure fire, pure elec, elec+fire combo, pure soul, etc.
the same applies to deprec... some use poison to slow regen, some use poison+slow to slow regen even further, some use weaken to reduce physical damage, some use bewilder to reduce magic damage, some use silence, etc. most of these deprec spells cannot be simultaneously in effect on a single monster so there is some pros and cons to each of them.
sparks and silence also have their pros and cons and some mages prefer sparks while others prefer silence.
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Jan 11 2011, 13:19
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hyl
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Tactic: mindless targetting a monster and kill the entire group. The only strategy is your gear, proficiency and abilities.
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Jan 11 2011, 19:44
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hgbdd
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QUOTE(BenderBRodriguez @ Jan 11 2011, 05:34)  is this before melee nerf (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)? No, before 4.0 I could clear any arena challenge with full crude plate (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) You can do it nowadays, but this only happens after getting X-attack. QUOTE(tribalspirit @ Jan 11 2011, 08:31)  the best deprecating spell for your level is weaken... but for bosses and single monsters slow is even better have you idea how much credits and artifatcs will cost now all that AP to fill enough oc bonuses?
I know, I filled up every single AP. Without any OC bonuses, IIRC I could do without items until Dreamfall, You can check the highest level bla bla thread, I had a small competition with Sayo at that time (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Jan 11 2011, 21:06
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tribalspirit
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QUOTE(cmdct @ Jan 11 2011, 20:44)  No, before 4.0 I could clear any arena challenge with full crude plate (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) You can do it nowadays, but this only happens after getting X-attack. I know, I filled up every single AP. Without any OC bonuses, IIRC I could do without items until Dreamfall, You can check the highest level bla bla thread, I had a small competition with Sayo at that time (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) all AP!???? so much dedication, respect... btw after three cakeworlds of 290 rounds and more, i bring my staff prof to 50 and elemental to 40 using only a elemental piece and some gossamer phase shit damn cleared all arenas for my level in hard in 20 minutes with a total of 15 greater mana potion (some of them wasted only for prof) everything except minibosses go down in two shots, and i'm only at half of the way soooo sweetly inbalanced (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Jan 12 2011, 01:52
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grumpymal
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Uh, I have 220 extra AP and a full Ability Tree. The others around my level are in the same boat.
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