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post Nov 15 2010, 00:54
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QUOTE(Rapiere @ Nov 14 2010, 16:49) *

Damn, does the poison+PA thing not work on gods? My poison hit the same on FSM regardless of whether or not I used it when PA was up.

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7    8    Spreading Poison hits Blue Slime for 384 damage.
7    7    You parry the attack from Blue Slime.
7    6    Mantitcore has been defeated.
7    5    Spreading Poison hits Mantitcore for 655 damage.
7    4    Mantitcore misses the attack against you.
7    3    Mutant Peacock gains the effect Penetrated Armor.
7    2    Your offhand hits Mutant Peacock for 137 piercing damage.
7    1    You hit Mutant Peacock for 298 piercing damage.
6    2    Mutant Peacock hits you for 43 piercing damage.
6    1    Mutant Peacock evades your attack.
5    2    Mantitcore gains the effect Spreading Poison.
5    1    You cast Poison.
4    7    Spreading Poison hits Blue Slime for 384 damage.
4    6    You parry the attack from Blue Slime.
4    5    Mantitcore hits you for 17 piercing damage.
4    4    You evade the attack from Mutant Peacock.
4    3    Mantitcore gains the effect Penetrated Armor.
4    2    Your offhand hits Mantitcore for 268 piercing damage.
4    1    You hit Mantitcore for 487 piercing damage.
3    1    You hit Mantitcore for 429 piercing damage.
2    6    Spreading Poison hits Blue Slime for 384 damage.
2    5    You evade the attack from Blue Slime.
2    4    You evade the attack from Mantitcore.
2    3    You evade the attack from Mutant Peacock.
2    2    Blue Slime gains the effect Spreading Poison.
2    1    You cast Poison.
1    2    Blue Slime resists your spell.
1    1    You cast Poison.
0    5    You gain the effect Hastened.
0    4    Spawned Monster C: MID=25 (Mutant Peacock) LV=137 HP=1600 MP=48 SP=21 NA=71 Type=hostile
0    3    Spawned Monster B: MID=3 (Mantitcore) LV=136 HP=1437 MP=49 SP=11 NA=76 Type=hostile
0    2    Spawned Monster A: MID=10 (Blue Slime) LV=138 HP=1432 MP=105 SP=30 NA=78 Type=hostile
0    1    Initializing Grindfest (Round 1) ...
0    0    Battle Start!


Still works.
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post Nov 15 2010, 00:57
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QUOTE(Sayo Aisaka @ Nov 14 2010, 22:53) *

It should do more damage with PA. If it doesn't, something's wrong.

Well, that f*cks up my calculations... I would be really interested to know exactly when it starts giving you 3 turns.
My guess is at level 250.
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post Nov 15 2010, 01:01
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Yeah, PA+poison worked for me on legendaries before, but on FSM it was doing less than 50 dmg per tick. Then I recasted it without PA and it did around 70ish per tick.
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post Nov 15 2010, 01:05
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QUOTE(cmdct @ Nov 14 2010, 22:57) *

My guess is at level 250.


If you're talking about hitokiri84 staff, I see it as 2 turns too. so maybe it wont be 3 until level 260
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post Nov 15 2010, 01:06
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I see 3.
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post Nov 15 2010, 01:11
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QUOTE(Rapiere @ Nov 14 2010, 23:01) *

Yeah, PA+poison worked for me on legendaries before, but on FSM it was doing less than 50 dmg per tick. Then I recasted it without PA and it did around 70ish per tick.
That's very strange, I'm sure at your level it used to do 150-200 dmg (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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post Nov 15 2010, 01:19
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QUOTE(Rapiere @ Nov 15 2010, 06:01) *

Yeah, PA+poison worked for me on legendaries before, but on FSM it was doing less than 50 dmg per tick. Then I recasted it without PA and it did around 70ish per tick.


That's normal, FSM have the most resistance against poison among all the bosses.

@ cmdct

He probably have very low INT.

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So the ratting works in this situations? Like in Invested in Redemption and Sanctity = High damage when hitting with Holy infusion?
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post Nov 15 2010, 01:44
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QUOTE(Sayo Aisaka @ Nov 14 2010, 16:53) *

It should do more damage with PA. If it doesn't, something's wrong.

Well, that f*cks up my calculations... I would be really interested to know exactly when it starts giving you 3 turns.


I noticed something odd in the shop earlier today, and I apologize if this has already been gone over, but I'm pretty sure the proc duration is being heavily rounded.

In the bazaar there were two staffs, a lvl 240 and a lvl 239. Both listed with 2 turns duration, but the 240 gave me the full 2 turns while the lower level staff, the 239, dropped me to 1. I'm assuming the 240 staff have a proc duration of 2.x and the 239 was a 1.y and the 2.x rounded down while the 1.y rounded up. If say the 240 was a 2.4 and the 239 was a 1.5 and the proc rounded was decreased by some linearly scaled percentage based on my level... lets say I was getting 66% of the true duration, the 2.4 would go to ~1.6 and round back up to the full 2, while the 1.5 would drop to ~1, dropping me from 2 to 1 based on my level.

That would explain the massive variation we see in proc duration scaling by level.
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post Nov 15 2010, 01:51
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I reset my ability page today. What a bitch doing all that.

I wish we could just pay to take points out of certain shit we don't want instead of having to clear the entire page and redo the whole damn thing.
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post Nov 15 2010, 01:52
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QUOTE(buktore @ Nov 14 2010, 23:19) *

So the ratting works in this situations? Like in Invested in Redemption and Sanctity = High damage when hitting with Holy infusion?
Actually now that I think about it, I'm not sure. It's easy to see using a Eth weapon, then using a infusion of gaia and compare the damage before and after.

Edit:Wait, (from wiki)
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post Nov 15 2010, 02:49
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QUOTE(buktore @ Nov 14 2010, 23:19) *

That's normal, FSM have the most resistance against poison among all the bosses.

@ cmdct

He probably have very low INT.

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So the ratting works in this situations? Like in Invested in Redemption and Sanctity = High damage when hitting with Holy infusion?


The problem is regardless of whether or not PA is up when the spell is casted, poison does the same damage(almost the same anyways). I'm fighting him again right now and same thing.

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post Nov 15 2010, 03:34
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QUOTE(marcho @ Nov 14 2010, 23:44) *

I noticed something odd in the shop earlier today, and I apologize if this has already been gone over, but I'm pretty sure the proc duration is being heavily rounded.

Yes, I looked into it here. (You really need to catch up...) Still trying to figure out the numbers for staffs though.
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post Nov 15 2010, 04:31
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bollocks. Yeah its going to take awhile to catch up D:
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post Nov 15 2010, 04:55
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QUOTE(Tenseigamoon @ Nov 14 2010, 23:51) *

I reset my ability page today. What a bitch doing all that.



I did mine @250, pulled points out of spirit tank for the level 250 abilities. But I'm surprised that you don't have everything maxed at your level.
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post Nov 15 2010, 05:20
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QUOTE(4EverLost @ Nov 14 2010, 18:55) *

But I'm surprised that you don't have everything maxed at your level.

I wanna mount Hito and max out his anal. Yeaahh, tap that chubby ass. (IMG:[lulzimg.com] http://lulzimg.com/i9/b3485cdd.gif)


Aw, God damn it! I was watching America's Funniest Home Videos right now and got distracted and lost my fucking arena battle. Hitoooooo!!!! (IMG:[lulzimg.com] http://lulzimg.com/i9/568d8b45.gif)
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post Nov 15 2010, 05:28
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Has there suddenly been some random resurgence in Longsword interest? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)
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post Nov 15 2010, 05:29
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*slurp slurp*
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post Nov 15 2010, 05:39
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QUOTE(Conquest101 @ Nov 15 2010, 03:28) *

Has there suddenly been some random resurgence in Longsword interest? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)


I don't now but I had fun for a long time using 2HD weapons
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post Nov 15 2010, 05:43
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QUOTE(Conquest101 @ Nov 14 2010, 21:28) *

Has there suddenly been some random resurgence in Longsword interest? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

What makes you think that?

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post Nov 15 2010, 05:48
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I dunno, I've seen posts about them + cmal is auctioning one + there's a WTB thread. And that's more interest than I've ever seen personally. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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