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post Oct 2 2010, 00:25
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I'd like to try and pin down the scaling factor for proc duration (and find out how it's rounded), so I'm requesting some help. I want people to post their current level and the number of turns they would get from the weapons listed here. I'm also looking for links to a few more long duration, high level weapons (6 or 7 turns) that I can get data on - and not something that's about to be eaten by the Bazaar, please. OK, I think we've got enough weapons for the moment. As many of them seem to be quite similar, I'll trim the list down a bit.

I'm now requesting durations for these weapons in particular. You can post what you get from the other weapons in the thread if you feel like it... Anyone reading this thread for the first time, don't waste your time looking at them. I got the data I needed.
  1. Level 181 Shortsword
  2. Level 217 Exquisite prism longsword of slaughter
  3. Level 203 Fine prism longsword of balance
  4. Level 250 Exquisite Prism Longsword
  5. Level 233 Fine Prism Longsword of the Ox
  6. Level 251 Wakizashi
  7. Level 204 Exquisite Prism Estoc of Slaughter
  8. Level 203 Fine Prism Estoc of Slaughter
  9. Level 193 Longsword
  10. Level 232 Longsword
  11. Level 177 Estoc
  12. Level 250 Estoc


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post Oct 2 2010, 00:33
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Prompted by me and Boggy's discussion I presume?

Exquisite prism longsword of slaughter (Level 217)

That's the highest level 7-turn weapon I have. And no intention of bazaaring it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
I have a couple of 6 turners as well, though I imagine Boggy/cmal/hito can post some that are higher level.
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post Oct 2 2010, 01:06
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Fine prism longsword of balance Level 203
I'm at level 102, and i got 5 turns for the three weapons.

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post Oct 2 2010, 01:17
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Here's the highest and lowest level 7 turners out of my trash heap.

Exquisite Prism Longsword (250)

Fine Prism Longsword of the Ox (233)
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post Oct 2 2010, 01:19
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editted for Sayo's first post.

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post Oct 2 2010, 01:20
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Here 2 of them at almost same level:
Exquisite Prism Estoc of Slaughter
Fine Prism Estoc of Slaughter

I'm level 208 and I see:
Hito: 6,7 turns
Boggyb:all of them 5 turns.


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post Oct 2 2010, 01:26
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I got 4 turns for all the Boggyb's weapons and 6 for the exquisite estoc of cmdct.
5 turns for everything else.
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post Oct 2 2010, 01:35
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QUOTE(Cyberdemon @ Oct 2 2010, 00:26) *

I'm level 102
I got 4 turns for all the Boggyb's weapons and 6 for the exquisite estoc of cmdct.
5 turns for everything else.
Fixed.
@Cyberdemon: Posting the level is also important data (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

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post Oct 2 2010, 02:34
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Here's another weapon - Level 209 Estoc

My level 212.
Boggy's weapons give me 5 turns each. All the rest are below my level.



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post Oct 2 2010, 04:15
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more 7 turn items
level 193 http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=91be1df667
level 215 http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=e6d077bac7
level 222 http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=2b2c4fa3e3
level 223 http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=235694ee6a
level 231 http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=67a6c00576
level 232 http://hentaiverse.org/pages/showequip.php...;key=709acacd05

I see them @ 237
Boggyb
Dagger (242) Duration: 6 (5) turns / Damage: 169 (166) per tick
Rapier (241) Duration: 6 (5) turns
Rapier (244) Duration: 6 (5) turns
Rapier (245) Duration: 6 (5) turns
Wakizashi (251) Duration: 6 (5) turns / Damage: 132 (125) per tick
Longsword (250) Duration: 6 (5) turns / Damage: 349 (332) per tick

hitokiri84
Exquisite Prism Longsword (250) Duration: 7 turns / Damage: 306 (291) per tick
now why is it that this one is 7 turns and all boggyb's are one turn less then 6?

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post Oct 2 2010, 04:41
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Now my level is 103. There is no difference in proc turns in any weapon.
5 turns proc in Torotuna and 4everlost's weapons before and after the level up.
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post Oct 2 2010, 05:02
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QUOTE(Sayo Aisaka @ Oct 1 2010, 22:25) *

Level 181 Shortsword

4

QUOTE(Conquest101 @ Oct 1 2010, 22:33) *

Exquisite prism longsword of slaughter[/url]

4

QUOTE(Cyberdemon @ Oct 1 2010, 23:06) *

Fine prism longsword of balance

3

QUOTE(hitokiri84 @ Oct 1 2010, 23:17) *

Exquisite Prism Longsword
Fine Prism Longsword of the Ox

3
4

QUOTE(Boggyb @ Oct 1 2010, 23:19) *

Weapons

All 3.

QUOTE(cmdct @ Oct 1 2010, 23:20) *

Estocs

Both 4.

QUOTE(torotuna @ Oct 2 2010, 00:34) *

Estoc

4

QUOTE(4EverLost @ Oct 2 2010, 02:15) *

Weapons

All 4.
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post Oct 2 2010, 06:22
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This estoc is my lowest level 7-turner and this one is my highest level.

These longswords are the lowest and highest level 6-turners I've got.

I've got a bunch of 6- and 7-turners, but pretty much all of them are over level 200. If you want more, I can post them. I modified my Bazaar script to filter out the lower duration stuff so it'd be easy to grab them all.

I also think its worth mentioning my eth rapier, which I raised from Level 95 and is currently at level 251, still only has 1 turn of PA.
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post Oct 2 2010, 06:43
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QUOTE(cmal @ Oct 2 2010, 04:22) *

This estoc is my lowest level 7-turner and this one is my highest level.

These longswords are the lowest and highest level 6-turners I've got.

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post Oct 2 2010, 09:11
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posts # 1-4 all scaled down to 4 turns

post # 5 all scaled down to 3 turns

post # 6 the exquisite scaled down to 5 turns and the fine scaled down to 4 turns

post # 9 scaled down to 4 turns

post # 10 all scaled down to 4 turns

post # 13 - 4,4,4,3

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post Oct 2 2010, 10:20
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Post #1-4: All 4 turns
Post #5: All 3 turns
Post #6: Exquisite 5 turns, Fine 4 turns
Post #9: 4 turns
Post #10: All 4 turns
Post #14: Both Estocs 4turns, sapphire longsword 4 turns, Prism longsword 3 turns

... Almost exactly the same results as PsPhreak except for Cmal's stuff

Edit: @ level 37

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post Oct 2 2010, 10:48
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Level 94

Fine diamond shortsword of balance
Hit Proc: 16% chance for Bleeding Wound
Duration: 7 (5) turns / Damage: 129 (71) per tick
Level 181 / Slot: 1handed / Type: One-handed weapon
Current Owner: Sayo Aisaka

Exquisite prism longsword of slaughter
Hit Proc: 21% chance for Bleeding Wound
Duration: 7 (5) turns / Damage: 382 (177) per tick
Level 217 / Slot: 2handed / Type: Two-handed weapon
Current Owner: Conquest101

Fine prism longsword of balance
Hit Proc: 17% chance for Bleeding Wound
Duration: 6 (4) turns / Damage: 287 (141) per tick
Level 203 / Slot: 2handed / Type: Two-handed weapon
Current Owner: Cyberdemon

Exquisite prism longsword
Hit Proc: 23% chance for Bleeding Wound
Duration: 7 (4) turns / Damage: 306 (124) per tick
Level 250 / Slot: 2handed / Type: Two-handed weapon
Current Owner: hitokiri84

Fine prism longsword of the ox
Hit Proc: 19% chance for Bleeding Wound
Duration: 7 (5) turns / Damage: 245 (106) per tick
Level 233 / Slot: 2handed / Type: Two-handed weapon
Current Owner: hitokiri84

Superior prism dagger of slaughter
Hit Proc: 22% chance for Bleeding Wound
Duration: 6 (4) turns / Damage: 169 (71) per tick
Level 242 / Slot: 1handed / Type: One-handed weapon
Current Owner: Boggyb

Average prism rapier of the nimble
Hit Proc: 14% chance for Penetrated Armor
Duration: 6 (4) turns
Level 241 / Slot: 1handed / Type: One-handed weapon
Current Owner: Boggyb

Fine prism rapier
Hit Proc: 23% chance for Penetrated Armor
Duration: 6 (4) turns
Level 244 / Slot: 1handed / Type: One-handed weapon
Current Owner: Boggyb

Fine prism rapier of slaughter
Hit Proc: 17% chance for Penetrated Armor
Duration: 6 (4) turns
Level 245 / Slot: 1handed / Type: One-handed weapon
Current Owner: Boggyb

Average prism wakizashi of the nimble
Hit Proc: 18% chance for Bleeding Wound
Duration: 6 (4) turns / Damage: 132 (53) per tick
Level 251 / Slot: Wakizashi / Type: One-handed weapon
Current Owner: Boggyb

Average prism longsword of balance
Hit Proc: 17% chance for Bleeding Wound
Duration: 6 (4) turns / Damage: 349 (141) per tick
Level 250 / Slot: 2handed / Type: Two-handed weapon
Current Owner: Boggyb

Exquisite prism estoc of slaughter
Hit Proc: 25% chance for Penetrated Armor
Duration: 7 (6) turns
Level 204 / Slot: 2handed / Type: Two-handed weapon
Current Owner: cmdct

Fine prism estoc of slaughter
Hit Proc: 25% chance for Penetrated Armor
Duration: 7 (5) turns
Level 203 / Slot: 2handed / Type: Two-handed weapon
Current Owner: cmdct

Superior prism estoc of slaughter
Hit Proc: 17% chance for Penetrated Armor
Duration: 7 (5) turns
Level 209 / Slot: 2handed / Type: Two-handed weapon
Current Owner: torotuna

Average diamond longsword of slaughter
Hit Proc: 21% chance for Bleeding Wound
Duration: 7 (5) turns / Damage: 308 (159) per tick
Level 193 / Slot: 2handed / Type: Two-handed weapon
Current Owner: 4EverLost

Average prism longsword of slaughter
Hit Proc: 17% chance for Bleeding Wound
Duration: 7 (5) turns / Damage: 303 (141) per tick
Level 215 / Slot: 2handed / Type: Two-handed weapon
Current Owner: 4EverLost

Fine prism longsword of slaughter
Hit Proc: 23% chance for Bleeding Wound
Duration: 7 (5) turns / Damage: 390 (177) per tick
Level 222 / Slot: 2handed / Type: Two-handed weapon
Current Owner: 4EverLost

Fine prism longsword of slaughter
Hit Proc: 19% chance for Bleeding Wound
Duration: 7 (5) turns / Damage: 313 (141) per tick
Level 223 / Slot: 2handed / Type: Two-handed weapon
Current Owner: 4EverLost

Superior prism longsword
Hit Proc: 23% chance for Bleeding Wound
Duration: 7 (5) turns / Damage: 365 (159) per tick
Level 231 / Slot: 2handed / Type: Two-handed weapon
Current Owner: 4EverLost

Fine prism longsword of the ox
Hit Proc: 21% chance for Bleeding Wound
Duration: 7 (5) turns / Damage: 407 (177) per tick
Level 232 / Slot: 2handed / Type: Two-handed weapon
Current Owner: 4EverLost

Fine ruby estoc of slaughter
Hit Proc: 19% chance for Penetrated Armor
Duration: 7 (5) turns
Level 177 / Slot: 2handed / Type: Two-handed weapon
Current Owner: cmal

Fine prism estoc of slaughter
Hit Proc: 17% chance for Penetrated Armor
Duration: 7 (4) turns
Level 250 / Slot: 2handed / Type: Two-handed weapon
Current Owner: cmal

Fine sapphire longsword of the ox
Hit Proc: 21% chance for Bleeding Wound
Duration: 6 (5) turns / Damage: 137 (88) per tick
Level 152 / Slot: 2handed / Type: Two-handed weapon
Current Owner: cmal

Average prism longsword of slaughter
Hit Proc: 21% chance for Bleeding Wound
Duration: 6 (4) turns / Damage: 305 (124) per tick
Level 249 / Slot: 2handed / Type: Two-handed weapon
Current Owner: cmal

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post Oct 2 2010, 10:51
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QUOTE(PsychoticSoul @ Oct 2 2010, 10:20) *

Post #1-4: All 4 turns
Post #5: All 3 turns
Post #6: Exquisite 5 turns, Fine 4 turns
Post #9: 4 turns
Post #10: All 4 turns
Post #14: Both Estocs 4turns, sapphire longsword 4 turns, Prism longsword 3 turns

... Almost exactly the same results as PsPhreak except for Cmal's stuff


actually we did get the exact same results and that kinda sucks, being ahead of you 20 levels and the duration scaled the same for both of us. we should compare the other stats also to see if there is any difference in how those scaled down to us.

edit:@Sayo when i first started playing HV i asked about this in ask the experts but no one could confirm or deny it, but i want to know if there is a chance of proc % and/or duration increasing for a wep after leveling it in IW

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Duration yes. We're trying to figure out the scaling factor with all this nonsense.

%, no.
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post Oct 2 2010, 17:35
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Thanks for the contributions, including the very useful level 0 data from my favourite Bond. I think we've got more than enough weapons now, so I picked a dozen that it might be useful to get more data for and listed them in the first post. What I really need is lots more durations, so I don't have to do any complicated arithmetic.

So far it looks as though the scaling factor is 200, but I'm not sure about rounding. Pinpointing the levels at which the number of turns goes up would help a lot with that.

It's interesting that just one of these weapons gives me the full 7 turns at level 168... That implies, of course, that a level 168 weapon could have 7 turns. I wonder what the minimum level is?
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