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Jun 12 2021, 18:29
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sharmy
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QUOTE(Skynerd @ Jun 12 2021, 18:17)  Got it, guess I'll stop trying to fit iris strike and backstab into my moves and stick with frenzied blows. How do I unlock OFC, though?
I haven't seen any shade armor so far, but I assume any old leather armor should do okay until I reach higher levels, right?
I used a rapier in the main hand with a wakizashi in the offhand before, and switching over to the dual clubs felt like I was killing things a *lot* faster, but was also losing a lot more health. Personally think I prefer the higher damage, so I'll keep an eye out for a rapier of balance.
Using imperil more definitely makes fights a lot easier, I really was gimping myself by using it only on bosses. I haven't unlocked MagNet yet, but would I want to use that on every enemy too? From what I can tell, it makes enemies unable to evade and also makes them slower, right?
To unlock OFC, buy 21 different Figurines Leather is slower, if you don't care, that's ok. MagNet should be unless for melee (also useless for mage except when facing the three Dragons), because you can make your PAcc > 200% easily (if you feel hard, use Voidseeker Shard, the price is only ~50c), which also make sure all the mobs cannot evade.
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Jun 12 2021, 18:38
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Nezu
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QUOTE(Skynerd @ Jun 12 2021, 17:17)  I haven't seen any shade armor so far, but I assume any old leather armor should do okay until I reach higher levels, right? Yeah, that's normal, at low levels you have to just mix-and-match the best stuff you've got available. QUOTE(Skynerd @ Jun 12 2021, 17:17)  Using imperil more definitely makes fights a lot easier, I really was gimping myself by using it only on bosses. I haven't unlocked MagNet yet, but would I want to use that on every enemy too? From what I can tell, it makes enemies unable to evade and also makes them slower, right?
Nah, MagNet is generally only used against certain enemies with abnormal resist rates (the dragons on the last round of the last arena, the flying spaghetti monster). Otherwise, it's not really worth the extra turns, not to mention it can't have the cooldown reduced to 0 - unlike imperil, which unlocks that ability at level 315. This post has been edited by Nezu: Jun 12 2021, 18:38
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Jun 12 2021, 18:45
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Skynerd
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QUOTE(Nezu @ Jun 13 2021, 01:38)  Yeah, that's normal, at low levels you have to just mix-and-match the best stuff you've got available. Nah, MagNet is generally only used against certain enemies with abnormal resist rates (the dragons on the last round of the last arena, the flying spaghetti monster). Otherwise, it's not really worth the extra turns, not to mention it can't have the cooldown reduced to 0 - unlike imperil, which unlocks that ability at level 315.
Would you say weaken is the most useful debuff to take against hard-hitting boss enemies, then? Or should I invest into silence? Is it even really worth using survivability-related debuffs like slow, weaken and silence? Thanks for the fast and helpful responses, by the way!
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Jun 12 2021, 19:11
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sharmy
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QUOTE(Skynerd @ Jun 12 2021, 18:45)  Would you say weaken is the most useful debuff to take against hard-hitting boss enemies, then? Or should I invest into silence? Is it even really worth using survivability-related debuffs like slow, weaken and silence?
Thanks for the fast and helpful responses, by the way!
In persistent HV, if you need Weaken/Silence for survive, I'll suggest lower difficulty or using Scrolls, that should be more economic. But if you want to have something challenge, Weaken is the most useful, followed by Silence, then Absorb (or Scroll of Absorption), anything else is not very effective. In isekai Tower, players cannot change difficulty, so casting Weaken is a must when they reach a high-enough floor. This post has been edited by sharmy: Jun 12 2021, 19:14
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Jun 12 2021, 19:14
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Nezu
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QUOTE(Skynerd @ Jun 12 2021, 17:45)  Would you say weaken is the most useful debuff to take against hard-hitting boss enemies, then? Or should I invest into silence? Is it even really worth using survivability-related debuffs like slow, weaken and silence?
Thanks for the fast and helpful responses, by the way!
Like sharmy says, both weaken and silence are pretty good, with weaken being the most useful defensive debuff (the important part being that it stops enemies from critting). For what it's worth, you'll only really need them to survive bosses at early levels - boss monster damage doesn't scale up very well in the current version of the game, and they end up being trivial compared to regular monsters. This post has been edited by Nezu: Jun 12 2021, 19:14
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Jun 12 2021, 22:38
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BlueWaterSplash
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Wow, I didn't know that Weaken stops enemies from being able to get critical hits!?
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Jun 13 2021, 06:52
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Nezu
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QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Jun 12 2021, 21:38)  Wow, I didn't know that Weaken stops enemies from being able to get critical hits!?
Right there in the spell text: QUOTE The target is weakened, making it deal less damage, and preventing it from scoring critical hits. I didn't realise before isekai either, to be fair, since I'd never used it (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Jun 14 2021, 03:55
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lksls
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Should I use cure at all? regen seems much stronger overall. I'am playing a light armor one hand
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Jun 14 2021, 06:15
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sharmy
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QUOTE(lksls @ Jun 14 2021, 03:55)  Should I use cure at all? regen seems much stronger overall. I'am playing a light armor one hand
(IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Use them both (and full-cure, and Health Potion, and Health Elixir)
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Jun 18 2021, 13:43
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chjj30
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 Never gonna give HV up, Never gonna let HV down, Never gonna run around and desert HV; Never gonna make HV cry, Never gonna say goodbye, Never gonna tell a lie and hurt HV. If I don't play much, maybe I'm not very busy, but if I can't talk a lot, then I am. Play HV is really pleasant, because HV doesn't have a lot of Affairs itself and I can just leave HV behind when I want to or have to.
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Jun 18 2021, 19:45
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BlueWaterSplash
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At a very low level, like around level 100 which you appear to be at now, Cure to me is more mana efficient healing than Regen.
At a slightly higher level you will be able to upgrade the Regen ability, also there is a large natural phenomena for all buffs where level progression (proficiency specifically) reduces the mana upkeep cost of the spell to 1/4 of the initial rate.
So for most of us, Regen is far superior to Cure, but we just Cure (or Full-Cure) when we have to because something has damaged us. If you don't need to Cure ever, you should consider increasing the difficulty setting of the game.
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Jun 20 2021, 13:02
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Pretty anon
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QUOTE(chjj30 @ Jun 18 2021, 06:43)   Never gonna give HV up, Never gonna let HV down, Never gonna run around and desert HV; Never gonna make HV cry, Never gonna say goodbye, Never gonna tell a lie and hurt HV. If I don't play much, maybe I'm not very busy, but if I can't talk a lot, then I am. Play HV is really pleasant, because HV doesn't have a lot of Affairs itself and I can just leave HV behind when I want to or have to. Just finished this tower floor after 148 hrs so can confirm, I wouldn't bother if I was forced to finish anything in one sitting
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Jun 20 2021, 16:06
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Grandmasters
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QUOTE(Grandmasters @ Jun 20 2021, 22:01)  Feel sad about what is about to be missing (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) I won’t be playing so desperately, or that I don’t have a chance. Life and study are really important
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Jun 20 2021, 16:21
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chjj30
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QUOTE(Pretty anon @ Jun 20 2021, 19:02)  Just finished this tower floor after 148 hrs so can confirm, I wouldn't bother if I was forced to finish anything in one sitting
"In Isekai, Players can camp in the Tower to have a Rest."
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Jun 21 2021, 19:50
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kenagev812
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I'm pretty new to this, so please excuse the newbie post. The Isekai season just ended yeah? I had a bunch of soulfused equipment on there, but now I can't find them in my Persistent mode? Does it take a full 24hrs for everything to update or is this an erorr?
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Jun 21 2021, 19:53
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kamio11
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QUOTE(kenagev812 @ Jun 21 2021, 17:50)  I'm pretty new to this, so please excuse the newbie post. The Isekai season just ended yeah? I had a bunch of soulfused equipment on there, but now I can't find them in my Persistent mode? Does it take a full 24hrs for everything to update or is this an erorr?
It will take until Persistent is updated: QUOTE(Tenboro @ Jun 21 2021, 09:25)  The following things will carry over to Persistent when this update has been deployed there:
- Peerless equipment and all soulfused equipment, as well as any unspent peerless vouchers
- Credit balance + value of item + equipment inventory exceeding 1 million
- Primary stat bonuses and a global damage bonus depending on the number of tower floors cleared
- A peerless voucher for the Top 10 tower floor clears:
(tba)
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(Again, note that stuff hasn't been added to Persistent yet.)
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Jun 21 2021, 19:56
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SPoison
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QUOTE(kenagev812 @ Jun 21 2021, 10:50)  I'm pretty new to this, so please excuse the newbie post. The Isekai season just ended yeah? I had a bunch of soulfused equipment on there, but now I can't find them in my Persistent mode? Does it take a full 24hrs for everything to update or is this an erorr?
Not sure WHEN it will be added you can see the notes here: https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=249135And it's stated it will be transferred when persistent is update as well. Last time persistent was updated around 11 days later so maybe 2 weeks you will see your stuff. Basically gotta wait it out.
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Jun 21 2021, 19:59
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kenagev812
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@kamio11 @SPoison Thanks guys!
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Jun 22 2021, 22:08
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Pickled_Cow
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I thought a special event just happened because I suddenly had 120 hath out of nowhere, turns out I just hadn't sold any since the 7th...
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Jun 23 2021, 07:35
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Adhinferno Bloodmoon
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QUOTE(chjj30 @ Jun 18 2021, 19:43)   Never gonna give HV up, Never gonna let HV down, Never gonna run around and desert HV; Never gonna make HV cry, Never gonna say goodbye, Never gonna tell a lie and hurt HV. If I don't play much, maybe I'm not very busy, but if I can't talk a lot, then I am. Play HV is really pleasant, because HV doesn't have a lot of Affairs itself and I can just leave HV behind when I want to or have to. LMFAO that Picture (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) This post has been edited by Adhinferno Bloodmoon: Jun 23 2021, 07:37
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