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Dec 10 2017, 05:08
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Honeycat
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What's the point of this? QUOTE Sunday - Holy Monday - Dark Tuesday - Fire Wednesday - Cold Thursday - Wind Friday - All Saturday - Elec Does it help you kill shit better?
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Dec 10 2017, 06:55
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Cryosite
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QUOTE(Sesshomaru Moon @ Dec 9 2017, 19:08)  What's the point of this? Does it help you kill shit better?
Yup. You'll occasionally see the mage-types mention doing grindfests and the like on their day for record runs.
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Dec 10 2017, 09:25
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nec1986
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Im not expert, but isnt all money fictional anyway? The only difference between $ and bitcoin, there are much more people interested in first than second. They have military and other ways to protect it and so on.
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Dec 10 2017, 10:26
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BlueWaterSplash
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Most money is fictional, invented by humans. But there is a physical representation of the money, and large governments and military backing it up, regulating it.
Bitcoin is more unstable, does not exist physically anywhere, and has no government backing. As a result of this perhaps, the exchange rate for bitcoin is fluctuating crazily. 1 bitcoins last week is 3 bitcoins this week. $1 of bitcoins a long time ago is already the cost of a house by now.
So it seems like perhaps there is something strange with bitcoins. Also some people have a hard time to even get bitcoins, or change the bitcoins back into real money.
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Dec 10 2017, 10:41
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Juggernaut Santa
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QUOTE(nec1986 @ Dec 10 2017, 08:25)  Im not expert, but isnt all money fictional anyway? The only difference between $ and bitcoin, there are much more people interested in first than second. They have military and other ways to protect it and so on.
I can still use real money to warm myself up or to wipe my butt. Bitcoin can't do that (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
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Dec 10 2017, 11:39
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Ass Spanker
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QUOTE(End Of All Hope @ Dec 10 2017, 16:41)  I can still use real money to warm myself up or to wipe my butt.
Speaking from personal experience, I strongly advise against this.
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Dec 10 2017, 12:03
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Noni
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QUOTE(Superlatanium @ Dec 10 2017, 01:39)  If you're primarily concerned about gaining magic proficiency, play in Crude IW with little damage output (or in regular arenas with no Imperil if you're willing to pay more attention)
I wonder if this is still true? Because all proficiency gains is linked to experience gain. Is Crude IW the best way to safely gain experience? I would think that in the current meta, best way would be: - For getting started in a new style (staff, DW, etc.), Dawn of the new Day is the best way. - For getting up to speed in a new style: just play the highest EXP-gaining battles. RE certainly, high EXP factor arenas probably and SG arena's if you can manage them. - For adding a second element to your mage build: include the T3 spell without ability improvements in your fights against SG. With Dark and Holy, I've tested and found little to no speed loss. And do the same in RE.
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Dec 10 2017, 13:15
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(as013 @ Dec 10 2017, 10:39)  Speaking from personal experience, I strongly advise against this.
Well, I guess used 1$ can be quite rough, yep..
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Dec 10 2017, 20:32
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reality_marble
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Only real moneys is gold and silver and platinums and stufs
Rest is currentcy not.moneys ╮(︶▽︶)╭
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Dec 10 2017, 20:38
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Ass Spanker
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QUOTE(reality_marble @ Dec 11 2017, 02:32)  Only real moneys is gold and silver and platinums and stufs
Rest is currentcy not.moneys ╮(︶▽︶)╭
Hmmmmm... I certainly don't wanna wipe my ass with a slab of gold, or silver, or platinum.
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Dec 10 2017, 22:36
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BlueWaterSplash
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I have a theory that maybe dark and holy strike could be slightly more common than any particular one of the other 4 elements. This could happen as a leftover from soul strike changing into dark and holy strike, or if the random number generator can roll void strike which secretly turns into a dark or holy strike. Let me check something. I just happen to hoard up my useless drops for no reason in a non-biased manner, simply trying to collect one of every kind of weapon for no good reason. Not counting weapons I purchased (because that would bias the pool) I have: 10 Fiery 12 Arctic 12 Tempestuous 15 Shocking 9 Demonic 7 Hallowed 17 Ethereal The wiki claims that Ethereal is 3x more common than any of the others. Does anyone else have an unbiased weapons collection (doesn't matter what filtering rules are used for keeping equipment, as long as it does not bias elements) to count up?
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Dec 10 2017, 22:44
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Slobber
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mmm i think ssss put up the nubmers for the drop rates a while ago
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Dec 10 2017, 22:48
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Slobber @ Dec 10 2017, 21:44)  mmm i think ssss put up the nubmers for the drop rates a while ago
yep. based on a big amount of fests. basically, Ethereal is the most common prefix, and all the other prefixes are equally probable. pretty much like this: https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Equipment_Prefixes#Chanceseven it the info is obsolete. not anymore. sssss's results are as follows: https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=199218CODE ================================ Ethereal | 750 | 19.49 % Fiery | 586 | 15.23 % Arctic | 609 | 15.83 % Shocking | 565 | 14.68 % Tempestuous | 565 | 14.68 % Hallowed | 367 | 9.54 % Demonic | 406 | 10.55 % ================================ based on 3848 drops. if any, Hallowed and Demonic seem to be a bit rarer. i'd go with 20 (Ethereal), 10 (Holy/Dark) and 15 (each element). while we're at it, special prefixes for armors hace usually lower/comparable chances than holy/dark mitigations, which are lower than other elemental mits. though the data sample is too low to do theorycrafting about all the kinds of armors. This post has been edited by Scremaz: Dec 10 2017, 23:10
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Dec 10 2017, 23:35
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Honeycat
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QUOTE(Cryosite @ Dec 9 2017, 18:55)  Yup. You'll occasionally see the mage-types mention doing grindfests and the like on their day for record runs.
I've been following that chart but I don't think it matters if you play on normal, does it? Does it help token drops or anything special like that?
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Dec 10 2017, 23:39
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BlueWaterSplash
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Wow, hallowed and demonic weapons should be even more valuable, then. Hopefully no one knows! I guess everyone will know now. At least ethereal is still slightly more common.
Assuming the wiki was correct earlier, probably the original distribution was 30 (Ethereal) and 10 (everything else, including Astral prefix with its soul element). Seems whole numbers are preferred. I wonder what that suggests about the chances for elemental strikes on IW ethereal weapons.
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Dec 10 2017, 23:53
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Cryosite
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QUOTE(Sesshomaru Moon @ Dec 10 2017, 13:35)  I've been following that chart but I don't think it matters if you play on normal, does it? Does it help token drops or anything special like that?
Just increases damage of that element.
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Dec 11 2017, 00:01
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Sesshomaru Moon @ Dec 10 2017, 22:35)  I've been following that chart but I don't think it matters if you play on normal, does it? Does it help token drops or anything special like that?
btw, this is something people playing at low difficulties may want to know: https://ehwiki.org/wiki/HentaiVerse_Settings#Challenge_LevelQUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Dec 10 2017, 22:39)  Seems whole numbers are preferred.
protip: *every* ratio can be expressed in terms of whole numbers. mr. Proust and Dalton knew this quite well, just to give you an example. QUOTE(BlueWaterSplash @ Dec 10 2017, 22:39)  I wonder what that suggests about the chances for elemental strikes on IW ethereal weapons.
nothing. elements are known to have all the same chance to appear, IW10-wise. or each of them should have 16.67% chance, if you prefer.
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Dec 11 2017, 00:23
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nec1986
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Despite ethereal is common, its still one of the most expensive. Whole amount of top tier equipment isnt enough.
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Dec 11 2017, 01:23
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Honeycat
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My forge upgrade bar doesn't have any blue in it. It's been empty a while now. I've been using bindings on my Axe which normally makes it fill up to reach the next forge level but it hasn't been doing anything lately. Anyone know what the deal with that is? This has never happened before.
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