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Let's say that all e-hentai is blocked in Russia, however I can freely use it and post messages here and there =)
Well, yes, it requires some technical knowledge, but nothing too complicated - just install/activate good old proxy and you are again online.

Good to know proxies still work because I heard they were going after proxies and will go after VPNs next.

Edit:
I just thought of something, e-hentai is blocked in Russia?
In the Site Help subforum, they say it was the other way round and e-H was blocking Russian IPs from accessing.

Edit2:
Now I'm just confused...(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=201442

This post has been edited by LOL50015: Sep 14 2017, 02:53

Nothing hard here =)
e-hentai is blocked in Russia according to court's decision (issue of Roscomnadzor)

It says: "Resource is blocked. Dear customer, access to that resource was blocked according to decision of public authorities of Russian Federation".
The reason is images with pedophile content (loli, you know?)
So, access is blocked ISP-side.
Tenboro also blocked access to this site for Russian IPs server-side. I don't know why exactly he did it, but probably he had reasons.

So, we have two block-case here: both from public authorities and from Tenboro himself =)

This post has been edited by f4tal: Sep 14 2017, 03:25

Well, technically loli only exists in the x site, but not like they care anyway.

Mmm...at this point, I think either TenB or the hosting company is Russian and by blocking Russians, they would have an argument if they ever get hauled to court.
Because I understand that EH is blocked in lots of countries but Russia is the only one that I'm aware of that is country-blocked by EH.

Edit:
Don't like to speculate, but it's just human nature to want to try to fill in the blanks.

This post has been edited by LOL50015: Sep 14 2017, 03:39

Because I understand that EH is blocked in lots of countries but Russia is the only one that I'm aware of that is country-blocked by EH.

I do not know what the reason were behind Tenboro's decision to block access to EH for Russians on server-side, but I can say perfectly clear that he is not that type of person who will do this just because he want to (for shit and giggles). He had some strong reason to do this, but because that information relates to server/security/innerArchitecture he cannot tell it. In this case we should stop bother him and demanding to remove the block.
Once again I personally do not know what the reason were behind this decision, but I do know it was necessary for EH, so be it.

The most impressive thing that ~x is not blocked neither from ISP, nor from Tenboro, so, did we really lose anything? XD

This post has been edited by f4tal: Sep 14 2017, 03:51

One more funny law - if site stores data and information about Russians (for example their providen names during the registration) - then this site should not send these data to different country and should place its servers in Russia. In other words - servers from Russia cannot send credentials of Russians to foreign servers.

This is due to concept of "data sovereignty"
(At least it is the reason, they all give ,as an excuse for all of this)
And now countries are focusing more and more on it

Let's say that all e-hentai is blocked in Russia, however I can freely use it and post messages here and there =)
Well, yes, it requires some technical knowledge, but nothing too complicated - just install/activate good old proxy and you are again online.
And it is very serious, even more - cryptocurrency, most probably, will be prohibited in Russia - we even have first arrestes for crypto-operations and court qualifies such actions as illegal banking.
Stupid, I know.
Also we nave a great law that requires every site that has more than 3,000 unique visitors to be registered in a special regestry with defining what that site is doing, its content, who is owner, contact details and so one.
One more funny law - if site stores data and information about Russians (for example their providen names during the registration) - then this site should not send these data to different country and should place its servers in Russia. In other words - servers from Russia cannot send credentials of Russians to foreign servers. Think about it for second and imagine yourself an online internet shop.
Madhouse, bedlam, idiotocracy, what I can say?
On other hand, the very good thing about Russia is that none follow these rules and police mostly don't care, until that site hosts suicide/pedophile/copyrighted materials.
And let's be honest, all this restriction have been made just to fight political opposition and to reduce the freedom of speech. So, until you start messing with policy, you are mostly safe. Pedophile/suicide stuff are exceptions - they are being monitored very strictly.

From my knowledge in informatics and management of personal data, I can tell that most of these measures are there so that Russia and its inhabitants are protected against foreign misbehaviors, such as using your personal data for illegal / reprehensible purposes. It's also a way to protect the country and inhabitants from a possible future war.

It's just like how I'm French and absolutely refuse to entrust Google with my personal data, because they're an american company that is most likely to be used by their government agencies at their own discretion and whims. Which includes applying their own sense of the laws, that absolutely are not in place in my country.

But yes, I do understand that with such measures it's sooo easy to hijack the results for even worse intents. And frankly, it's sad to admit it, but Russia would be in deep shit and live in an even worse misery if you didn't have Putin.

^^
How would they even use that data to harm anyone?

I mean, I could give them my name, address, photo, contacts and my entire internet history, and what are they going to do? Serve me targeted ads?

It might feel creepy and unsettling for companies to know so much about you, but unless you're someone important or you've got some serious dirt, no humans will care.

What about money? Can program get access to clipboard/key logs or just steal some data like card info. Its possibly to make money transfer even without additional SMS confirm or something else.

^^
How would they even use that data to harm anyone?

I mean, I could give them my name, address, photo, contacts and my entire internet history, and what are they going to do? Serve me targeted ads?

It might feel creepy and unsettling for companies to know so much about you, but unless you're someone important or you've got some serious dirt, no humans will care.

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) One word. Zersetzung. Give me enough information and i destroy your life completly, every single aspect of it. And you will not even be able to prove that i did a thing. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

^^
How would they even use that data to harm anyone?

I mean, I could give them my name, address, photo, contacts and my entire internet history, and what are they going to do? Serve me targeted ads?

It might feel creepy and unsettling for companies to know so much about you, but unless you're someone important or you've got some serious dirt, no humans will care.

If they're using it legally, there's probably not many malicious things they can do with it. But there's no guarantee that they'll use it legally; acquiring the right personal info can net shady people lots of money, often at the expense of those whose information was stolen.

Funny, but I more entrust with my personal data to Google, than to Russian companies, like Yandex or Rambler or Mail.ru. xD

Для русскоговорящих: как можно довериться компаниям которые сделали браузер Амиго, Яндек-Бар и Спутник-Маил-Ру? =)

I had even to look up what this amigo is, and half of the search results are just about how to remove it. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) I guess that tells me everything i have to know about it. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

I had even to look up what this amigo is, and half of the search results are just about how to remove it. laugh.gif I guess that tells me everything i have to know about it. tongue.gif

Amigo is spyware masked as browser. It has browsing features, but very limited and restricted (for example, you can search only in mail.ru, no Google, Yandex, DuckDuckGo, etc).

On other hand, once that thing appeared at your PC - this is not an easy way to remove it - it register himself in auto-tasks, re-downloads himself, creates copies of himself and you cannot just search for "amiga" in Registry - it has value/key with some obnoxious names like "343124hj2yh34j2yhv34i2u3g423vbjh4v32" - good luck to find Amigo with that kind of value/keys.

That thing was made mail.ru - Russian IT company and tracks user activity with all passwords, data, credentials etc.
Just imaging yourself non-turn-off-able, non-delete-able, constantly-sending-all-your-data-to-remote-server Google Chrome browser - that is Amigo .

There are lots of speculation and criticism around that thing in Russia, but mail.ru don't give a damn.
I cannot trust this company, I better stick with Google xD

This post has been edited by f4tal: Sep 14 2017, 10:55

Does it prevent you from format your harddrive? Otherwhise i would not be impressed. So, format, just because i am an old paranoid person also remove your bios battery and set up a whole new instalation. What could be easier then that? It maybe take some time, but in the worst case i made a clean setup instead of once a year, two per year. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

guys, i'd like to give you the chance to let you speak freely about censoring (lol), but truth is that i don't have the knowledge needed to moderate such a debate. so i cannot help but inviting you to continue speaking on the thread LOL posted:

https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=201442

or to rely on occasional moderation by joe and tenboro, who lurk this thread every now and then.

also, i read a few posts on that thread and i agree that:

• "Sites like boorus don't even have 1% of what we do in terms of userbase, traffic, and content." -> which basically means it's easier to catch someone's attention
• "You kindly left out Pornhub's extensive financial and legal resources. Neither of which we have." -> afaik PornHub runs to make a profit. EH to offer a service. it's quite different. feel free to surf their Alexa ranks, if you want
• "Tenboro is a mild-mannered porn site operator, not a super-powered being capable of sovereignty from the world's governments and their respective forces." -> so true. even if we consider his coding knowledge outstanding, this is only because of our standards. his real skills reside elsewhere, but not in making money, afaik.
• "<tenboro> you should probably assume that if I ever do something that makes the site less accessible or just outright worse, it's not for shits and giggles" -> strictly related to the above one. tenboro really cares about his site (albeit i can only imagine his frustration at times) and the service he offers to the community. plus (leaving out everyday's operations that are demanded to forum mods, IRC operators and tag/gallery mods, but still supervised by him when needed) he has an overall view of the forum, thing that neither of us has. guess it's safe to assume his decisions are made for the *overall* wealth of the site.
• "I guess we aren't worthy to hear the full reason directly." -> not exactly true. fact is, - and please do't take is an offense, everyone - common users don't have the power to change situations. discovering certain things will lead to a big amount of discussions (and possibly flames). compartmentalization of infos is actually used to let users surf freely and to let troubles only to those who actually accepted to deal with them, not to deem who's worthy and who's not. which is the mean of points 6 and 7 here
• "Speaking of mistaggers, you might want to remain silent about that. [...] some of us tried hard to keep you away from trouble or rehabilitate you." -> so true. tag mods are called to an extensive amount of work, which i guess it's one of the reasons they are so many.

tl;dr: "EH is a community as a whole, not a dictatorship and not a special snowflake club either." -> therefore, decisions have to be taken in the interest of the community as a whole.


of course, speaking about spyware and how to estirpate them (unless it's so complex it needs an userbase from Tech Chat) is fine.

You mean post something outside of the "The HentaiVerse Chat" subforum? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

Does it prevent you from format your harddrive?

It would be very impressive if after formatting HDD you still got Amigo xD

guys, i'd like to give you the chance to let you speak freely about censoring (lol)

If you mean Tenboro's censoring for Russian users, then I don't really care - he did what he should have done.
If you mean all my speech about Russian laws in IT sphere, well, yes they are just biting me and I cannot stay silent xD

You mean post something outside of the "The HentaiVerse Chat" subforum? ohmy.gif

There are OTHER subforums? O,O

This post has been edited by f4tal: Sep 14 2017, 11:13

It would be very impressive if after formatting HDD you still got Amigo xD

I just take this as a no and you can format your Amigo infested harddrives as often as you want. Then i really dont understand what the problem should be to get rid of it.

There are OTHER subforums? O,O

To should have seen we when it did notice that HV had acctually a forum. I just did take me a year to notice that. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

You mean post something outside of the "The HentaiVerse Chat" subforum? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

i do mean that.

If you mean Tenboro's censoring for Russian users, then I don't really care - he did what he should have done.
If you mean all my speech about Russian laws in IT sphere, well, yes they are just biting me and I cannot stay silent xD

i mean that speaking freely about censorship may be a paradox (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

not wanting to shut anyone, merely to shift this discussion where it can be analyzed better. that's all.

This is the ponyverse chat, the place where we talk about stuff in our secret and very restrictive ponyverse club of players. Outsiders are not welcome. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)