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post Feb 3 2012, 11:10
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Given that SP Stance still doesn't get any benefits at all from having high OC boost in this patch, I'll take it that the direction of melee will focus more and more on skill. I hate it, but there's nothing I can do about that.

If that's the case, at least make skill actually useful on a more ... 'bottom-line' basis. TBH while the melee skills are better than in 0.6.3 patch, but because of how the whole skill system works, most are still have too much of a 'boss-killing special attack' feel to it, so it still sucks not good enough regardless...

The complexity increased to melee gameplay due to skill didn't even give more firepower to melee; reducing it, even... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Maybe the ability to switch weapon set in-battle will remedy this. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I like the new Interference mechanics btw. Still not sure what to say about the burden change, though, but it seem that lots of people complains...



PS. Meh... I try hard not to make this post look like a complain, but apparently that's impossible to do without lying. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)
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post Feb 3 2012, 11:13
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QUOTE(buktore @ Feb 3 2012, 09:10) *
most are still have too much of a 'boss-killing special attack' feel to it, so it still sucks not good enough regardless...

Considering the precedents, you better not complain or he'll just make every enemy as strong as a Legendary (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Feb 3 2012, 11:14
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It IS a complaint (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Personal view: Tenb is reluctant to add supportive skills because it will produce perma-melee problem.

A switch in equipment set MAY work, but then there may be more 'balancing'. Not sure if you want that
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post Feb 3 2012, 11:25
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QUOTE(varst @ Feb 3 2012, 16:14) *

A switch in equipment set MAY work, but then there may be more 'balancing'. Not sure if you want that


Just weapons will do. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Changing the entire equipment set in-battle doesn't make sense, anyway... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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post Feb 3 2012, 13:50
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QUOTE(buktore @ Feb 3 2012, 10:10) *

Maybe the ability to switch weapon set in-battle will remedy this. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


I've been thinking of suggesting this for some time now. It would be useful and add a nice touch to the fights, like choosing the best spell from one's arsenal to face the various monsters. Something limited to weapons only from two/three sets and that takes a turn to perform wouldn't unbalance anything and add some depth to meleeing: face the mobs with your 2H or niten set and when you get to a boss switch to sword&board or DW and focus on the big guy.

It could be an ability, so who wants it can get it and those who don't can just brute force their way through as they've always done.

Also, it would be nice if one could switch the full equipment sets on the character stas page too to compare the effects on the derived attributes on the fly.
That'd be way less cumbersome than repeating "equip page"/"switch"/"stats page" over and over again.

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post Feb 3 2012, 21:40
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So, this happened during a Grindfest.

24 3 Regen restores 251 points of health.
24 2 Idenn crits you for 757 piercing damage.
24 1 Your attack misses its mark.
23 4 Regen restores 251 points of health.
23 3 Idenn misses the attack against you.
23 2 The effect Stunned on Idenn has expired.
23 1 Your attack misses its mark.
22 2 Regen restores 251 points of health.
22 1 Your attack misses its mark.
21 2 Regen restores 251 points of health.
21 1 Your attack misses its mark.
20 2 Regen restores 251 points of health.
20 1 Your attack misses its mark.
19 3 Regen restores 251 points of health.
19 2 Idenn gains the effect Stunned.
19 1 You crit Idenn for 1773 void damage.
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post Feb 3 2012, 21:54
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QUOTE(DragonRanger @ Feb 3 2012, 11:40) *

24 1 Your attack misses its mark.
23 1 Your attack misses its mark.
22 1 Your attack misses its mark.
21 1 Your attack misses its mark.
20 1 Your attack misses its mark.


Accuracy %? HS on/off?
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post Feb 3 2012, 21:58
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QUOTE(DragonRanger @ Feb 3 2012, 20:40) *

So, this happened during a Grindfest.

24 3 Regen restores 251 points of health.
24 2 Idenn crits you for 757 piercing damage.
24 1 Your attack misses its mark.
23 4 Regen restores 251 points of health.
23 3 Idenn misses the attack against you.
23 2 The effect Stunned on Idenn has expired.
23 1 Your attack misses its mark.
22 2 Regen restores 251 points of health.
22 1 Your attack misses its mark.
21 2 Regen restores 251 points of health.
21 1 Your attack misses its mark.
20 2 Regen restores 251 points of health.
20 1 Your attack misses its mark.
19 3 Regen restores 251 points of health.
19 2 Idenn gains the effect Stunned.
19 1 You crit Idenn for 1773 void damage.


How do you manage to miss a like 10 meters tall Dragon?

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post Feb 3 2012, 22:05
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QUOTE(Ichy @ Feb 3 2012, 23:58) *

How do you manage to miss a like 10 meters tall Dragon?

(IMG:[s1.directupload.net] http://s1.directupload.net/images/120203/mesrdl84.gif)

Maybe his eyes was closed? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Feb 3 2012, 22:08
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92.5% accuracy, no HS at the time.
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post Feb 3 2012, 22:45
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well to be fair, he'd only be able to reach the tail/legs at best. and if it flies? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

but yeah, the HS matters a lot IMO. and blame that RNG
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post Feb 3 2012, 23:12
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is Tenboro playing around with the forum font

everything looks different

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post Feb 3 2012, 23:19
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Refer to https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=57654
Good thing I have Stylish, I hate big fonts~
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post Feb 4 2012, 00:37
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Feb 3 2012, 02:45) *

*scoff*

=C Not even if it cost a little mana?

QUOTE(Hoheneim @ Feb 3 2012, 06:50) *

I've been thinking of suggesting this for some time now. It would be useful and add a nice touch to the fights, like choosing the best spell from one's arsenal to face the various monsters. Something limited to weapons only from two/three sets and that takes a turn to perform wouldn't unbalance anything and add some depth to meleeing: face the mobs with your 2H or niten set and when you get to a boss switch to sword&board or DW and focus on the big guy.

It could be an ability, so who wants it can get it and those who don't can just brute force their way through as they've always done.

We asked for this a looooong time ago. Almost as long ago as when we asked for a second quickbar. We even discussed it at great length.

QUOTE(mr daniels @ Feb 3 2012, 16:12) *

is Tenboro playing around with the forum font

everything looks different

The new big fonts are weirding me out, man.
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post Feb 4 2012, 00:58
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I use to view the forums at 120% on my laptop, now 100% is just a little smaller then that.
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post Feb 4 2012, 02:58
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Is it strange that nothing changed for me? I checked in all my 3 browsers (chrome, FF, IE).
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post Feb 4 2012, 03:09
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Did you try CTRL + F5?
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post Feb 4 2012, 03:11
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QUOTE(roadgray @ Feb 3 2012, 16:58) *

Is it strange that nothing changed for me? I checked in all my 3 browsers (chrome, FF, IE).

It has to do with you monitor's dpi.
1pt = 1/72 inches
1px = 1/{your monitor's dpi} inches

The old font size was 10px. now it's 8pt.

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post Feb 4 2012, 03:13
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QUOTE((Cheater) Tiap @ Feb 4 2012, 02:09) *

Did you try CTRL + F5?

Yeah. Upon closer inspection, I can see that thread titles and quoted texts are bigger now. No change to regular post text, but maybe that's just change blindness.

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QUOTE(sigo8 @ Feb 4 2012, 02:11) *

It has to do with you monitor's dpi.
1pt = 1/72 inches
1px = 1/{your monitor's dpi} inches

The old font size was 10px. now it's 8pt.

Right. Didn't think about that.

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post Feb 5 2012, 15:43
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QUOTE(dcherry @ Feb 3 2012, 22:45) *

well to be fair, he'd only be able to reach the tail/legs at best. and if it flies? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

but yeah, the HS matters a lot IMO. and blame that RNG

HS would only reduce the miss rate by less than 4%.

monsters have a lot of evade/parry/resist %
they're just obfuscated as misses in the text screen and evade isn't reduced by the status effect you'd think would do it (lightning)
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