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I love how most of the people complaining about this are the ones with mostly real porn galleries uploaded.

That could be because they are the ones to have noticed it first.

That could be because they are the ones to have noticed it first.

I'd wager it's because they're to only ones who care.

I'm thinking of supporting this movement, albeit half-heartedly. I don't think I'm dedicated enough to try to expunge things, and I really don't want to wander into the Vigilante area, so I might just stop at adding some 'realporn' tags. Even that won't be much since I don't spend much time in the galleries.

I'm thinking of supporting this movement, albeit half-heartedly. I don't think I'm dedicated enough to try to expunge things, and I really don't want to wander into the Vigilante area, so I might just stop at adding some 'realporn' tags. Even that won't be much since I don't spend much time in the galleries.

Halfhearted support is better than active opposition. So, welcome aboard!

I'm not sure if this was covered already, but what is the policy on cosplay galleries? Are you guys trying to get rid of them too, or are we content to just ignore that whole category? Technically, it's real porn, but it keeps with the whole theme of the website (most of them are cosplaying anime characters).

I'm not sure if this was covered already, but what is the policy on cosplay galleries? Are you guys trying to get rid of them too, or are we content to just ignore that whole category? Technically, it's real porn, but it keeps with the whole theme of the website (most of them are cosplaying anime characters).

Asian porn and cosplay are being ignored. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

I agree with the general idea of this thread, but only if asian porn is included too. The reason to keep it out of the expunging spree is so retarded(who said this site is about asian porn? Then, do you want to expunge non-asian artwork too? Also, asian _real_ porn sucks much more than western real porn.)! Anyway, I think this should be done with an official ban of all real porn, not like this.

You, sir, are perfectly welcome to start your own thread to gather support for this idea.

Well I just read through the 15-ish pages of this thing posted since my departure, and I think I'll be getting on the bandwagon as I originally indicated. On to the vigilante thread!

I thought it was strange when I read "real porn" as a reason to expunge. I guess I should get started then. I'll start from the last page of the misc category and go backwards. ...This may take a while!

I thought it was strange when I read "real porn" as a reason to expunge. I guess I should get started then. I'll start from the last page of the misc category and go backwards. ...This may take a while!

I wouldn't if I were you, that'll just cause them problems. You also seem to misunderstand that this is not official, this is a user generated movement and should only be done if you agree with it.

I thought it was strange when I read "real porn" as a reason to expunge. I guess I should get started then. I'll start from the last page of the misc category and go backwards. ...This may take a while!

By last page, do you mean chronologically first? (i.e. starting in 2007) If you do, don't.

So help me understand something... Are we supposed to be trying to get rid of all the real porn (non-asian, of course, because they're somehow less real than the other ethnic groups)? Or is it just the crap galleries with 12 crap images like the ones all over the first 2 pages right now? I have no issue with the latter, that makes sense, but if we're supposed to be getting rid of all this stuff on the grounds that it isn't hentai, then why not go all the way and get rid of the cosplays, asians, anything 3D, non-H, and western art too?

This... this whole idea... is just incredibly stupid.


I think it would make more sense to swap the whole asian porn tag out for a real porn tag and call it a day. It doesn't strike me as some great injustice against hentai if we let the real stuff have its own section.

This... this whole idea... is just incredibly stupid.

I think the idea of real porn on a hentai site is incredibly stupid.

I think the idea of real porn on a hentai site is incredibly stupid.

There's nothing wrong with variety. I might be in the minority here, but I kind of like that this is the only site I know of where I can look at HQ pics of my favorite girls, check out a doujin or two from my favorite artists, then go and read 33 volumes of Berserk.

I just think it's funny that people keep saying that real porn doesn't belong on a hentai site when hentai doesn't actually mean just drawn porn. It's normally used that way in the west but it actually means many things one of which is sexually perverted or something along those lines, it doesn't only apply to drawn porn. And saying that it usually used for drawn porn isn't good enough justification, so at the very least admit that it's because you don't like them and not because they don't belong. The garbage option for a petition is already opinion based, someone might think of a gallery as garbage when someone else loves it, so you not liking real porn is perfectly acceptable under the idea that you think it is garbage.

I dont' care for guro or scat, and those are usually mixed in with the manga and anime galleries but I'm not running a mass expunging campaign against them, I leave them and move to something I do like because some other people do like them. I guess I just don't get expunging a gallery for what it is and not for what it actually contains.

This post has been edited by OogerSmoogle: Jul 12 2010, 12:29

actually whats funny to me is what to stop a person or persons from deciding that the manga or even the doujins shou;d not be up after all as you said copyrighted material is not supposed to be up on the site but hey what ever floots your boat i could care but you have enought people to force your view on everyone even the non vocal people.

... then why not go all the way and get rid of the cosplays, asians, anything 3D, non-H, and western art too?
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Because I don't want to.

I just think it's funny that people keep saying that real porn doesn't belong on a hentai site when hentai doesn't actually mean just drawn porn. It's normally used that way in the west but it actually means many things one of which is sexually perverted or something along those lines, it doesn't only apply to drawn porn. And saying that it usually used for drawn porn isn't good enough justification, so at the very least admit that it's because you don't like them and not because they don't belong. The garbage option for a petition is already opinion based, someone might think of a gallery as garbage when someone else loves it, so you not liking real porn is perfectly acceptable under the idea that you think it is garbage.

I dont' care for guro or scat, and those are usually mixed in with the manga and anime galleries but I'm not running a mass expunging campaign against them, I leave them and move to something I do like because some other people do like them. I guess I just don't get expunging a gallery for what it is and not for what it actually contains.

On the contrary, I love real porn, I fap to it all the time, but because of that I also realize that you can find a near infinite amount of it on the internet already and therefor see no reason for it to stay here cluttering up this website.

actually whats funny to me is what to stop a person or persons from deciding that the manga or even the doujins shou;d not be up after all as you said copyrighted material is not supposed to be up on the site but hey what ever floots your boat i could care but you have enought people to force your view on everyone even the non vocal people.

The site admin would reverse any of that that happened, ban everyone involved, and laugh.
This has been approved of, or at the very least, very specifically not outlawed by the site's admin.

This post has been edited by bladejtr: Jul 12 2010, 13:15

SOME real porn galleries actually have merit. But as people seem to be unable to self-moderate and pick just the top tier stuff, there is a huge amount of time sunk into digging through the garbage in order to get to the good pieces. Personally I'd like to see the good stuff remain, as per the current rules, but when it's buried between ten tons of crap, that borders on infeasible.

How to define HQ? Eye of the beholder, I am afraid, and made 100x more difficult due to deluge of crap.

I don't have a good solution; the only thing I can think of is to have all the real porn galleries reviewed and voted on by the community, and after a set amount of time, all galleries under certain vote score would be killed. That would consume time away form other, more needed (?) vigi tasks...

woah, nocham is even here right now. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) .

Anyways just in case anyone HASN'T see it, there is an official thread about what is going on here:
https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=27637

As someone who had been visiting E-H for a very long time and again in recent times (I don't really participate much though), this real porn issue does become a big time-waster and gets in the way of viewing new galleries compared to before when there weren't as much... but let's be frank here, its either all types of real porn (this should include Asian) are allowed or its not. Putting exemptions and gray-area subjectivity like "good taste" and "high quality" in the rules makes them unrealistic to enforce without fights popping up.

Putting quality and quantity issues of real & Asian porn aside, the fact remains that E-H has always been about the hentai... I agree it should stay that way.

If admins are serious about keeping real porn around, Red_Piotrus has a really great idea, I was going to suggest something similar. Let the galleries kill themselves off like ticking timebombs unless enough people vote to keep/defuse it. Set a 15-day timer and if it doesn't perform well enough, auto-expunge with a small message.

The argument of "it exists somewhere else on another website" is a very weak reason to ban a specific category... you can reuse the same reasons to ban cosplay, western, non-h, etc etc etc categories as well...

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The argument of "it exists somewhere else on another website" is a very weak reason to ban a specific category... you can reuse the same reasons to ban cosplay, western, non-h, etc etc etc categories as well...

Not somewhere else, everywhere else, in near infinite supply.

In any case the decision is being made by Tenboro now, not really my original intention, but I can't complain.