[X] My Assistant

A point I was thinking of making. You're starting with real porn, what's next?

I understand your concern but, you are forgetting three things...

1.) There is no guarantee that those who vote to kill off Real Porn will vote for the "next thing".

2.) I still have doubts that they will get the votes needed to pull this off.

3.) Tenboro: "This is not Garbage" > 100 people: "Yes, it is."

If three days from now, this database tool, that lists incomplete expunges, is suddenly flooded with hundreds (thousands?) of incomplete, failed RP purge petitions, I will either hand-erase everyone of the failed RP Purge petitions, to eliminate the clutter on the otherwise useful database tool, or simply ask Tenboro to delete all active, incomplete Garbage expunges so that the SOCOM Expunge list will be usable again. To be clear, this is not an objection to the purge, if it is organized and can kill galleries within 3 days (Dawns) time.

The more I think about this, the more it pisses me off. Who the hell are you to make additional rules regarding the expunging of something? If the system gives people 7 days, people get 7 days. Period.

Hey, boggy and aereth, am I counting you in on this or no? You haven't really given a sold yes or no to it.

I'd definitely commit to expunging new uploads, but I'm hesitant to commit to something that will take 100s of manpower hours when Tenboro could delete it in less than half an hour if he wanted. (Just delete all misc galleries tagged with blonde, brunette, and redhead.)

Oh it wouldn't take that long, I'll post links for you and everything, just click link, click expunge, paste prerecorded response, done.

I'd definitely commit to expunging new uploads, but I'm hesitant to commit to something that will take 100s of manpower hours when Tenboro could delete it in less than half an hour if he wanted. (Just delete all misc galleries tagged with blonde, brunette, and redhead.)

Yes, that would be nice if he would help with this. He's still never given us a reason why he wants this stuff here. And add the non-nude misc to that wipeout list up there, I just remembered there are tons of Denise Milani and all of that's non-nude garbage. Non-nude makes no sense.

Just to clear something up: "don't care" doesn't mean "knock yourself out", it means "I have no personal preference on whether 'real porn' that isn't related to the site's primary function should stay or not". It would still require a significant consensus before it's ok to start killing it off.

Should a poll be started?

And you may not use "Illicit", as this would be a change in policy, and that particular expunge category counts towards the automated banning mechanism. "Garbage" does not.

Enforcing the rules as you wrote them is a change in policy? This isn't even an issue that is debateable like shemales being considered fetish porn. Almost every single gallery is posted in violation of copyright laws.

Enforcing the rules as you wrote them is a change in policy? This isn't even an issue that is debateable like shemales being considered fetish porn. Almost every single gallery is posted in violation of copyright laws.

If you're going to keep on using that excuse single point in the ROE, let's just burn the whole site down and then everyone can can get on with their lives as almost everything in the galleries is a violation of copyright law. The Illicit content reason for expunging is specifically for the content in the images, not the underlying legality of the content through copyright law. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

This post has been edited by Spectre: Jul 1 2010, 22:44

Ugh, stop being cunts. This is all we're going for right here.
https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...st&p=734822

And I'd like Tenboro to take one full day to go into the galleries himself and do nothing but tag and expunge so he can see what we have to put up with every day. That should change his mind real fast.

Ugh, stop being cunts. This is all we're going for right here.
https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?s=&am...st&p=734822

And I'd like Tenboro to take one full day to go into the galleries himself and do nothing but tag and expunge so he can see what we have to put up with every day. That should change his mind real fast.

Except he gave us that ability to self moderate so he wouldn't have to do it himself; there's no way he'll touch it now if he doesn't have to. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

This post has been edited by Spectre: Jul 1 2010, 22:57

@bladejtr Will you edit your first post to include the names and garbage expunge power levels of everyone who has agreed to be a part of this endeavor? Not only would it possibly encourage more to join*, but it might also stop a few naysayers once they start seeing a consensus. If it's too much hassle, then never mind.


*Some people might be to afraid to join initially, but feel it safer to join if there are several people already a part of this movement.

Blade, you should add everyone who has committed to the first post.

Good idea.

@bladejtr Will you edit your first post to include the names and garbage expunge power levels of everyone who has agreed to be a part of this endeavor? Not only would it possibly encourage more to join*, but it might also stop a few naysayers once they start seeing a consensus. If it's too much hassle, then never mind.
*Some people might be to afraid to join initially, but feel it safer to join if there are several people already a part of this movement.

@bladejtr Will you edit your first post to include the names and garbage expunge power levels of everyone who has agreed to be a part of this endeavor? Not only would it possibly encourage more to join*, but it might also stop a few naysayers once they start seeing a consensus. If it's too much hassle, then never mind.
*Some people might be to afraid to join initially, but feel it safer to join if there are several people already a part of this movement.

He already did (see at the bottom of his first post) and it won't stop the naysayers, at least not me since I have yet to have my arguments met with a significant counter argument that could not be rebutted. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)


edit: added a word that I missed.

This post has been edited by Spectre: Jul 1 2010, 23:30

Why don't people just deselect 'misc' and 'asian porn'? If you get porn being posted elsewhere, that just means that it's been posted in the wrong category. There's already a way to deal with that, it's not this.

Count me in as a 'naysayer.' If we're going to have some sort of porn crusade, I can think of better places to start. This goes double towards the defense of 'asian porn,' which has been given it's own category on the site. If that's not an endorsement, I don't know what is. Non-asian porn seems like more of a gray area, but in it's defense, let me ask why there is a 'misc' category at all? It exists precisely so that people can post galleries that do not fit in the other categories.

This post has been edited by Cong: Jul 1 2010, 23:50

Why don't people just deselect 'misc' and 'asian porn'? If you get porn being posted elsewhere, that just means that it's been posted in the wrong category. There's already a way to deal with that, it's not this.

Count me in as a 'naysayer.' If we're going to have some sort of porn crusade, I can think of better places to start.

Why don't some people read the whole of the thread before responding?

The more I think about this, the more it pisses me off. Who the hell are you to make additional rules regarding the expunging of something? If the system gives people 7 days, people get 7 days. Period.

I'd suggest to play nice and make sure everyone is on board if you want this to go anywhere. Stating it as a three-day limit isn't entirely accurate, but after three days of no expunge activity, it will start leaking onto the SOCOM listing, which will be a royal pain.

While everything is implicitly copyrighted unless it has been released to the public domain, you can't just assume that any given gallery is posted without consent - it simply doesn't work like that. The only way the usage of "Illicit" would be authorized is if the actual posting rules were changed, but I feel that the "relevance" rule is if anything even harder to define than anything anyone ever came up with before, so that looks very unlikely at this point. If you wish to fight that decision, I'd be happy to neuter your expunge power as well.

I understand your concern but, you are forgetting three things...

1.) There is no guarantee that those who vote to kill off Real Porn will vote for the "next thing".

2.) I still have doubts that they will get the votes needed to pull this off.

3.) Tenboro: "This is not Garbage" > 100 people: "Yes, it is."

If this goes through it also means that unless Tenboro steps in that anything is fair game, all that has to happen is for someone to step in and organize it.

A lot of people already try to expunge rewrites as garbage. If someone organizes it, it shouldn't be too hard to get 200 power behind that cause.

People have already expressed other things they would like to get rid of in this topic including those with high power. This shows that it could be very easy to organize against them.

Again please explain why a real porn tag would be needed to do this. No one has made any attempt to explain this in any way. I've already shown you how to systematically target them. If you're already this organized, is it too much to ask for a little more organization to be done? If you can't do that, is a reasonable explanation too much to ask for? I have yet to hear a reason beyond we need one.

If this goes through it also means that unless Tenboro steps in that anything is fair game, all that has to happen is for someone to step in and organize it.

A lot of people already try to expunge rewrites as garbage. If someone organizes it, it shouldn't be too hard to get 200 power behind that cause.

People have already expressed other things they would like to get rid of in this topic including those with high power. This shows that it could be very easy to organize against them.

The current system expressly allows it. If Tenboro is too bothered by it, he'll change things. Until then, people have the right to gang up and expunge things as garbage if they want. That is how it was explained to me when I first joined. However, I suppose if it is something Tenboro took issue with, he'd change it, Until that line is crossed, this is the way things are, even if not everybody likes it.

EDIT: What I just said makes me realize just how stupid my quest to expunge that bestiality tag has been. I had forgotten that popular opinion dictates what validates a tag or expunge on this site. If people want to label something as bestiality, then they can if they have the votes. With that realization, I will stop bitching about that one gallery. You all know the one. I admit I was wrong in my pursuits. I apologize.

This post has been edited by BradRepko: Jul 2 2010, 00:01

I'd suggest to play nice and make sure everyone is on board if you want this to go anywhere. Stating it as a three-day limit isn't entirely accurate, but after three days of no expunge activity, it will start leaking onto the SOCOM listing, which will be a royal pain.

1 person threatening to use their additional power to stop something if it marginally inconveniences them is absurd.

A lot of people already try to expunge rewrites as garbage. If someone organizes it, it shouldn't be too hard to get 200 power behind that cause.

I seem to remember reading Tenboro saying that we can expunge re-writes if there is a translated version of the gallery. If someone went through and searched, they could probably remove a good number of them.

1 person threatening to use their additional power to stop something if it marginally inconveniences them is absurd.

When visiting a man's house you play by his rules. His threat could have been to show you to the door.

I seem to remember reading Tenboro saying that we can expunge re-writes if there is a translated version of the gallery. If someone went through and searched, they could probably remove a good number of them.

Go tell that to rad, I'm sure he'll love you.

1 person threatening to use their additional power to stop something if it marginally inconveniences them is absurd.

Are you talking about Tenboro here, or the people who want to expunge a bunch of porn that isn't their 'thing'? :/

1 person threatening to use their additional power to stop something if it marginally inconveniences them is absurd.

When visiting a man's house you play by his rules. His threat could have been to show you to the door.

I was talking about Alpha7. This site isn't his house so he doesn't get to make rules.

I seem to remember reading Tenboro saying that we can expunge re-writes if there is a translated version of the gallery. If someone went through and searched, they could probably remove a good number of them.

Go tell that to rad, I'm sure he'll love you.

He's on his honeymoon.