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Bans like this a fucking pointless anyway. Nvidia is very much a profit-oriented business, and could not give a flying fuck on whoever wins the cold war 2.0

They will keep coming up with workarounds. Doubt the US government can do much to stop that if Nvidia becomes really fed up with them.

Jensen is probably the only CEO that has been able to tell the US and CCP govt to screw themselves.


Jensen: We will not listen to the Biden administration if they ask us to make poor economic decisions because Taiwan is an independent country.

Little Pinks: ......
Rainbow brigade: .....


My main issue with the new cards is that the watts keep escalating. The 5080/5090 is incompatible with my current PC because its SFX, and only a 750watt psu.

There are SFX-L which are a bit bigger

edit: There is a 1000w corsair SF1000? I thought it was SFX-L but it says SFX form factor.

There are apparently more powerful but are region locked. Need that 240w goodness for SFX 1300 lol.
The Coolermaster V1300 only hits 1050W in countries with lesser 100/110w grids.

Man, that really feels like old school PSU days when they would over rate PSUs.

This post has been edited by EsotericSatire: Aug 20 2024, 03:20

Fuck, power ratings. I totally forgot about that.

Corsair RM850X 850W 80+ Gold Modular (2021)

ought to supply enough wattage for a 5070 or even a 5080, eh?

Fuck, power ratings. I totally forgot about that.

Corsair RM850X 850W 80+ Gold Modular (2021)

ought to supply enough wattage for a 5070 or even a 5080, eh?

Maybe not a 15900k and 5080. When they go over their nominal power limit it could be like over 1k watts.

Maybe not a 15900k and 5080. When they go over their nominal power limit it could be like over 1k watts.

I have a 14700K and I'm not about to upgrade it.

ASUS PRIME Z790-A WIFI LGA1700 DDR5
Intel Core I7-14700K 5.6 GHZ LGA1700 Box
Noctua NH-D15 Silent Cpu-cooler
CORSAIR 64GB (2x32GB) DDR5 6400MHz VENGEANCE C32 1.40V Intel XMP Desktop Memory Black
Samsung 990 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 2TB

two S-ATA 870 evos and three 120mm fans.

This post has been edited by kotitonttu: Aug 20 2024, 15:10

I have a 14700K and I'm not about to upgrade it.

ASUS PRIME Z790-A WIFI LGA1700 DDR5
Intel Core I7-14700K 5.6 GHZ LGA1700 Box
Noctua NH-D15 Silent Cpu-cooler
CORSAIR 64GB (2x32GB) DDR5 6400MHz VENGEANCE C32 1.40V Intel XMP Desktop Memory Black
Samsung 990 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 2TB

two S-ATA 870 evos and three 120mm fans.

I ran your specs with the Seasonic calculator and a 5080 and it recommends minimum 750w, +10% will put you at 850w. So you should be alright depending on the connector I for the gpu I guess.

I ran your specs with the Seasonic calculator and a 5080 and it recommends minimum 750w, +10% will put you at 850w. So you should be alright depending on the connector I for the gpu I guess.

Nice. The more I think about it the more I am angling towards the 5080. But it's a bit too early to think about it too much.
I wish the damn things were out already. My buddy already called dibs on my old card and he needs the upgrade more than I do whenever we play games like Squad together.

I axed my local mom n pop brick and mortar PC part store to give me a call when they get the first 5080 in stock.

I axed my local mom n pop brick and mortar PC part store to give me a call when they get the first 5080 in stock.

Are they actually getting 5080s in? Sometimes its not even worth it for stores like that to stock the high end parts.

Where I used to live was considered a computer market because there were so many computer stores but it was all killed off by online stores and people switching to laptops and tablets. It was a fun time.

Are they actually getting 5080s in? Sometimes its not even worth it for stores like that to stock the high end parts.

Where I used to live was considered a computer market because there were so many computer stores but it was all killed off by online stores and people switching to laptops and tablets. It was a fun time.

They are. I think their primary business is building high-end workstations for business customers. But I've been buying most of my components from that same shop for 10 years now.

He said they'll get final confirmation from wholesalers on Jan 30th but "from what he's hearing" the 5080 will be available earlier and more widely than the 5090. Not that I care, that's not a factor in my decision, but that's what the guy said. The 5070 Ti is looking pretty interesting, but miss me with the 5090.

5080 is kinda a turd. 9% better than the 4080 Super, worse than the 4090. Also because the base frame rate is lower, frame generation does not work as well.

5090 costs too much.

It runs cooler than a 4080 super which is an advantage.

My current GPU is a 5-year-old 1660 Ti so any of the 50 series cards would be a massive upgrade to what I have now.

I might end up going for the 5060 Ti 16GB. I want to do LLMs and Stable Diffusion so Nvidia and at least 16GB VRAM is a requirement. A lot of the games I play are indie titles or Japanese games which tend to be less graphically demanding, and I hardly play AAA games so it doesn't make sense for me to spend more for the 5070 Ti/5080/5090 when the 5060 Ti seems more than capable for my use case (pending benchmarks).

However, and I'm not holding my breath, if prices of new 40 series cards drop a lot once the stock levels of the 50 series becomes stable, then I'll also think about getting a 4060 Ti/4070 Ti Super/4080 Super.

Why did I even think I had any chance at getting a 5000 card before mid 2025

Why did I even think I had any chance at getting a 5000 card before mid 2025

In my country they do a lottery to see who gets to buy the five founders edition cards at RRP. Everyone else gets the inflated board partner cards that are always 30-50% above RRP for at least a year or so.

In my country they do a lottery to see who gets to buy the five founders edition cards at RRP. Everyone else gets the inflated board partner cards that are always 30-50% above RRP for at least a year or so.

Even now the cheapest 4090 I can find here is 2.2k USD. I suspect 5090 will hover around 3-3.5k, if we actually manage to get any in the near future. More likely they are gonna come in prebuilt PCs only for a while. SEA always gets the shit price for tech stuff. Ok maybe cheap chinese phones but I don't use smartphones.

So tech lab's 4090 GPU on a 3090ti pcb with faster memory out performs the 5090 in terms of raw performance?

Its like nvidia is deliberately nerfing their cards to allow easy future products. Kinda sad.


5090 has far better AI performance though.

So tech lab's 4090 GPU on a 3090ti pcb with faster memory out performs the 5090 in terms of raw performance?

Its like nvidia is deliberately nerfing their cards to allow easy future products. Kinda sad.

it's like we've had something like ~5 years of the most rapid performance development in GPUs after the 90s when 3D graphics first emerged and now people who couldn't afford a new GPU anyway are jerking off over a graph showing the current upgrade are only X percentage points when the previous gen used to be X+2!!! (this proves their 1650 mobile is still great!)

literally nothing. new gpus are fine.

In my country they do a lottery to see who gets to buy the five founders edition cards at RRP. Everyone else gets the inflated board partner cards that are always 30-50% above RRP for at least a year or so.

I should be getting my ASUS GeForce RTX 5080 16GB PRIME OC this week since I talk to the storeowner earlier (IMG:[i.imgur.com] https://i.imgur.com/LR8jSqi.jpeg)

it's like we've had something like ~5 years of the most rapid performance development in GPUs after the 90s when 3D graphics first emerged and now people who couldn't afford a new GPU anyway are jerking off over a graph showing the current upgrade are only X percentage points when the previous gen used to be X+2!!!

It has been rapid in some areas. I guess the problem is people wanting to upgrade every generation. If you skip a generation or two then the uptick is pretty good. Back in the day we would skip one or two generations of cards.

The price and power usage have been ticking up so the relative value has been declining slowly since the first titan release.

(this proves their 1650 mobile is still great!)

The geforce 10 series was pretty legendary. I still have a GTX 1060 laptop.

I should be getting my ASUS GeForce RTX 5080 16GB PRIME OC this week since I talk to the storeowner earlier

Congratulations, that is pretty impressive. The problem here I think are the scalpers, all the major stores are sold out of even the board partner cards but ebay is flooded with scalpers. For stores I guess its good that they do not have to have risk holding stock but its a bit annoying for real buyers. Ultimately the problem is that people are willing to pay 30-50% more for scalped prices...

The biggest improvement seems to be reliability, but Nvidia can not admit the problems the 40 series had. I would much rather buy a 50 series than a 40 series.

No available 50 cards here, only scalpers, and they sell 5080s for 1800 and 5090s for 5k.

I agreed on 1475€

This post has been edited by kotitonttu: Feb 4 2025, 11:58

No available 50 cards here, only scalpers, and they sell 5080s for 1800 and 5090s for 5k.

And I thought the retailers here listing 5090s for 4k was bad. They are the top ASUS models though.