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post Mar 26 2023, 11:01
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QUOTE(Noni @ Mar 26 2023, 16:16) *

How about: a Secret Pony Level Refresh Item? How it would work: you play SPL today, then use out-of-battle-item Secret Pony Level Refresh Item. The item makes it possible to play SPL again, same day, for the second time!

That way LV 500 players can grind with max EXP multiplier, and get more trophy income. Or, for lower levels, also an unlocking item for the other SG arena's? That would compensate a bit for the EXP grind loss. Maybe it will flood the market with trophies, but I think there is still sufficient demand. And because we can't grindfest that much, there will be less great gear dropped so extra equipment from trophies isn't that bad?
You could do for instance:
Crystals: 40%
Last elixir: 10%
DWD unlocking 5%
PGC unlocking 5%
SPL Unlocking 5%
Vase: 5%
Gum: 5%
Chaos token: 5%
Hath: 20%

or leave out the tokens, because they used to be untradable and now they kinda are. And let DWD unlock be 10%

Edit: some rewording to make it more clear


I like this idea, re-unlock dwd and so on would be much valuable than now
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post Mar 26 2023, 12:41
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QUOTE(Basara Nekki @ Mar 26 2023, 08:47) *

For example, to have 200 full chaosed monsters it requires 504,000 chaos tokens. In this case, a player would need 5,040,000 artifacts. And considering the amount of 20,000 credits per artifact, it would be necessary 100,800,000,000 credits. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) I think even the richest of the players would take a while to get this feat. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)


I wouldn't know, I don't have that much experience yet. But what is stopping people from making 20 accounts with non-full chaosed monsters? If I get the system right it's the diminishing returns that make the chaos system expensive.

How much Tokens just to make 1 account with 25 monsters with no upgrades?

Then you make 20 such accounts and you just log-in every 3 days to feed them and ship/sell the mats?

Or am I overthinking?


Edit, NVM Just saw the admin footnote "And it's a lot easier to detect multi-account farms than it is to detect casual botting." so I guess that's one way to prevent that.

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post Mar 26 2023, 13:32
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Sorry for the rant.
I'm still shaken that my sizable artifact cache turned into a pile of pennies.
It's hard dealing with a stock crash of what was assumed to be a safe asset.


I've only got a bit over a hundred PA stored up, and 30+ ED, but yeah, the theoretical income I expected to get from those energy drinks (both in stock, and from eventual PA usage) was a major part of my financial planning.

And I may not have maxed archaeologist training, but I invested in four levels of it based entirely on calculations around ED value.

Maybe some new Trophy award to help offset this kind of loss, like when Mysterious Box was awarded to certain players after the price of Ability Boost was adjusted?
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post Mar 26 2023, 14:16
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QUOTE(Hexxuus @ Mar 26 2023, 18:41) *

I wouldn't know, I don't have that much experience yet. But what is stopping people from making 20 accounts with non-full chaosed monsters? If I get the system right it's the diminishing returns that make the chaos system expensive.

How much Tokens just to make 1 account with 25 monsters with no upgrades?

Then you make 20 such accounts and you just log-in every 3 days to feed them and ship/sell the mats?

Or am I overthinking?
Edit, NVM Just saw the admin footnote "And it's a lot easier to detect multi-account farms than it is to detect casual botting." so I guess that's one way to prevent that.


Never underestimate the Players who multi-Accuounting.

I have an Example:

Series 1:

QUOTE(yoursun @ Feb 15 2019, 03:16) *

有福同亨 有难同当



QUOTE(yourmon @ Feb 15 2019, 03:21) *

此帖虽说不上山明水秀,可是也别有一番风味



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大音希声,大象希形



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文笔流畅,修辞得体,深得魏晋诸朝遗风,更将唐风宋骨发扬得入木三分



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让人佩服得五体投地的好帖



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憂鬱...憂鬱....


Series 2:

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出来混 迟早都是要灌的



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其实世上本没有路 走的人多了 也便成了路—



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象你这样出色的人 无论在什么地方 都像漆黑中的萤火虫一样 那样的鲜明 那样的出众



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出来灌 要讲信用 说了回你的帖 就一定回你的帖



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几句话虽然简单,却概括扼要,一语道出了我们苦想多年的而不可得答案的几个重大问题的根本。



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QUOTE(toct @ Feb 15 2019, 03:40) *

让人佩服得五体投地的好帖



QUOTE(tnov @ Feb 15 2019, 03:41) *

每月一签....


Those multi-Accounts are regiested in the same Month in 2018, use Series-Names, make Spam-Post in a Row, reach about lv 400, and finally get banned in 2020.
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post Mar 26 2023, 14:35
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QUOTE(chjj30 @ Mar 26 2023, 20:16) *

Never underestimate the Players who multi-Accuounting.

I have an Example:

Series 1:
Series 2:
Those multi-Accounts are regiested in the same Month in 2018, use Series-Names, make Spam-Post in a Row, reach about lv 400, and finally get banned in 2020.

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Far far level behind like GrandOasters or SukeOcz,or some else
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post Mar 26 2023, 14:52
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QUOTE(unitready @ Mar 26 2023, 20:35) *

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
Far far level behind like GrandOasters or SukeOcz,or some else


There is a big Difference: My Example didn't hide their multi-Accouting, they just do it under the Sun, not like someone who hide under the Darkness.
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post Mar 26 2023, 18:13
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Welp, losing Energy Drinks isn't going to do my 'grinding to 100m goal' any good. Oh well
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post Mar 26 2023, 19:34
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Would it be viable to add a new item drop to PAs that can be sold exclusively to the item shop vendor or shrined for X amount of credits? i.e. A platinum coin worth 10k credits or something.
That way PAs could still be used as a means to get credits, and avoid a complete crash in its value.
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post Mar 26 2023, 19:59
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Buyback program for pre-patch artifacts @ 20k. We were encouraged to be market makers, we shouldn't have the value of our stock wiped out. Again.
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post Mar 26 2023, 20:15
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QUOTE(Noni @ Mar 26 2023, 01:16) *

How about: a Secret Pony Level Refresh Item? How it would work: you play SPL today, then use out-of-battle-item Secret Pony Level Refresh Item. The item makes it possible to play SPL again, same day, for the second time!

That way LV 500 players can grind with max EXP multiplier, and get more trophy income. Or, for lower levels, also an unlocking item for the other SG arena's? That would compensate a bit for the EXP grind loss. Maybe it will flood the market with trophies, but I think there is still sufficient demand. And because we can't grindfest that much, there will be less great gear dropped so extra equipment from trophies isn't that bad?
You could do for instance:
Crystals: 40%
Last elixir: 10%
DWD unlocking 5%
PGC unlocking 5%
SPL Unlocking 5%
Vase: 5%
Gum: 5%
Chaos token: 5%
Hath: 20%

or leave out the tokens, because they used to be untradable and now they kinda are. And let DWD unlock be 10%

Edit: some rewording to make it more clear


I really like the unlocking idea, but I think just 1 reset token that fully resets the arenas would be better. Also crystals is too damn high, bring that down to 25 or 30%!
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post Mar 26 2023, 21:39
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For me removing ED is unfair, especialy for bronze star and silver star who have the Long Gone Before Daylight Hath Perks....

Maybe replacing it with hat is more suitable.

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post Mar 26 2023, 22:17
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How about a daily candy for Bronze and Silver stars?
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post Mar 26 2023, 22:27
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QUOTE(LogJammin @ Mar 26 2023, 13:17) *

How about a daily candy for Bronze and Silver stars?


What a good idea!
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post Mar 26 2023, 22:41
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QUOTE(SPoison @ Mar 26 2023, 21:27) *

What a good idea!

I think it s unfair to, because before this update the bronze and silver star have 20 stamina with the hat perk Long Gone Before Daylight ,with candy it will be 10 stamina

what this mean ? the bronze and silver star are low grade members ?

this is why i said its maybe more viable to replace it with hats.

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post Mar 26 2023, 23:10
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QUOTE(nek @ Mar 26 2023, 17:41) *

I think it s unfair to, because before this update the bronze and silver star have 20 stamina with the hat perk Long Gone Before Daylight ,with candy it will be 10 stamina


Perk does not affect Candy. Only Energy Drink.
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post Mar 26 2023, 23:21
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QUOTE(Basara Nekki @ Mar 26 2023, 22:10) *

Perk does not affect Candy. Only Energy Drink.

Excuse me i d ont know this, but in this case that s the meaning to have the hat perk Long Gone Before Daylight,
or to be a bronze star or a silver star ?
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post Mar 27 2023, 00:36
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QUOTE(nek @ Mar 26 2023, 21:21) *
Excuse me i d ont know this, but in this case that s the meaning to have the hat perk Long Gone Before Daylight,or to be a bronze star or a silver star ?

The hath perk, Long Gone Before Daylight, causes the first Energy Drink consumed in a day to restore 20 stamina, instead of 10. It does not currently affect Caffeinated Candies.

Before the prior nerf years ago, every energy drink restored 20 stamina, without the need of a 2,000 hath perk.

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post Mar 27 2023, 03:54
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Dunno if it's related to the update at all, but in the past couple of days, I've been unable to submit riddlemaster answers about 50% of the time they pop up. I select the ponies, but the "submit answer" button remains grayed-out, and the only way I can get back to the game is to refresh the page.
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post Mar 27 2023, 04:26
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QUOTE(trogon @ Mar 26 2023, 21:54) *

Dunno if it's related to the update at all, but in the past couple of days, I've been unable to submit riddlemaster answers about 50% of the time they pop up. I select the ponies, but the "submit answer" button remains grayed-out, and the only way I can get back to the game is to refresh the page.


Is it related to the riddlemaster grayed-out submit button bug discussed here (starting a few posts earlier)?
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post Mar 27 2023, 04:30
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If botting was legal, the energy drink price would settle at some point where there's still some level of profit for botters.
If botting was completely impossible, the price would be substantially lower.
Where we end up in between depends on how effective other anti-bot measures are. If the need to buy drinks is supposed to be the safety valve, at the upper end of that range few drinks are being used by human players at all.

It also doesn't affect the most casual botting, i.e. play all 24 stamina every day both in Persistent and Isekai. That's a tidy amount of income for no work, as opposed to 3-4 hours of grinding per day. Human players find even that much challenging to keep up with, so casual botters would still be in the lead.

Instead of a connected multi-account farm, they can then harvest the results from each account individually, without ever sharing proceeds directly between them.

So... potentially the bot explosion can just go around this restriction.

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