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Mar 25 2023, 11:12
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Sad Penguin
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Mar 25 2023, 07:53)  Note that since this likely significantly affect the market value of the items, Precursor Artifacts and Energy Drinks have been temporarily delisted from the Market. They will be re-added shortly, but the Buy Order Book will have been cleared, and Buy Orders will be disabled for 48 hours (until March 27th 08:00 UTC) so people have a chance to update their orders.
Better to suspend the Market as the "self-sustainable" related items (consumable, crystals etc.) are gonna fluctuate too? Seems the change will affect a lot to the Market and even the intention of playing HV. This post has been edited by cornandbeans: Mar 25 2023, 11:13
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Mar 25 2023, 11:30
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wscore
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this is nonsense.
suppressing the supply of energy drinks is forced to play less and which will soon lead to a departure of many users.
this does not help with the influx of new users, nor does it help maintain the existing users.
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Mar 25 2023, 11:37
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FoS_Owner
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A very excellent patch under the assumption that Tenboro does not want people to play HentaiVerse.
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Mar 25 2023, 11:48
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Sad Penguin
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QUOTE(FoS_Owner @ Mar 25 2023, 09:37)  A very excellent patch under the assumption that Tenboro does not want people to play HentaiVerse.
As a result, will HV no logner act as credit sink in e-hentai? Unless they are planning to alter the game completely, with a new demand & supply system
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Mar 25 2023, 12:25
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Ming28561
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This is a good update, players should not waste too much time on grindfest every day.
This will be decisive for the market, so I'm also curious how many credits are in HV, between 100b-1000b?
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Mar 25 2023, 16:48
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KingArtson
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Mar 25 2023, 10:53)  This update has now been pushed to Persistent.
Note that there are some additional changes that were not announced beforehand, specifically to partially address AI-powered captcha solvers:
- Artifacts no longer award Energy Drinks. Instead, Energy Drinks are now a donator award. Gold Star donators will automatically have 1 Energy Drink added to their inventory every day, assuming that they have visited HV in the last 30 days, while Catgirls get 2. (These are not added with the Dawn Event, but as part of a script run a few minutes past midnight, the same one that adds Soul Fragments for people with the perk.)
- Energy Drinks can no longer be sent via MoogleMail. (They can still be traded in The Market).
- Caffeinated Candies can now be traded in The Market.
Specifically, these changes are there to eliminate "self-sustainable" play since you can no longer get stamina-boosting items just by playing.
Note that since this likely significantly affect the market value of the items, Precursor Artifacts and Energy Drinks have been temporarily delisted from the Market. They will be re-added shortly, but the Buy Order Book will have been cleared, and Buy Orders will be disabled for 48 hours (until March 27th 08:00 UTC) so people have a chance to update their orders.
Update: The items have now been re-listed. Coding wise, sure, but I feel it would be a lot less intuitive. Also the order book looks prettier with all the rounded numbers.
I wonder if the moderators who knew this had time to buy themselves energy drinks? Although again, perhaps it is worth clarifying, maybe it applies only to ordinary players? The moderators are just fine showering themselves with rewards, perhaps the energy drinks were taken only from the chumps? QUOTE(Tenboro @ Mar 25 2023, 10:53)  Gold Star donators will automatically have 1 Energy Drink added to their inventory every day, assuming that they have visited HV in the last 30 days, while Catgirls get 2. (These are not added with the Dawn Event, but as part of a script run a few minutes past midnight, the same one that adds Soul Fragments for people with the perk.)
100$ - 1 1000$- 2 Is there something wrong with my math?
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Mar 25 2023, 17:02
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Shank
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"moderators" didn't know either, and not sure what gave you that impression. We are just players too. Don't believe it? Feel free to check yourself. As for the awards, as has already been stated, all of those have to have been given with reasons, didn't take away any votes from non "mods", and generally they are "mods" because they are already heavily investing their available time to serving the community, in ways that aren't captured by toplists, which is what those nominations are for. If it makes you feel any better, I'll personally be abstaining from any awards going forward, just so you don't feel like you are getting slighted over something that doesn't actually matter as much as you think it does. Do you have anything constructive to post, instead of shit stirring?
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Mar 25 2023, 17:57
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Tenboro

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QUOTE(KingArtson @ Mar 25 2023, 15:48)  I wonder if the moderators who knew this had time to buy themselves energy drinks? No one knew. Specifically to avoid the "insider trading" issue. Considering that the market trade logs are open, you can easily verify that there have been no price spikes nor dips on neither the artifacts nor the energy drinks in recent history.
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Mar 25 2023, 17:59
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uyrth02
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just some reaction from new enough player,
my Energy Drink income from Artifact .......
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Mar 25 2023, 18:58
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Hexxuus
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QUOTE(uyrth02 @ Mar 25 2023, 18:59)  just some reaction from new enough player,
my Energy Drink income from Artifact .......
Yeah, this made artifacts worthless in one shot, kinda s*cks. Feel pretty stupid investing millions to get the permanent stat bonuses this month, assuming they're now given out for free. Though I was able to resell the energy drinks and the gamble was kinda fun. I see the buy side is locked for now. But yeah, people who had them see most of their value gone. This post has been edited by Hexxuus: Mar 25 2023, 19:11
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Mar 25 2023, 19:42
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KingArtson
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Mar 25 2023, 18:57)  No one knew. Specifically to avoid the "insider trading" issue. Considering that the market trade logs are open, you can easily verify that there have been no price spikes nor dips on neither the artifacts nor the energy drinks in recent history.
Such problems take a long time to solve, and if you consider that you have been struggling with AI for a long time, you could have discussed it much further. (And considering HV is being developed at a snail's pace, this task could have been set as early as 2018...) Plus you don't have to hold moderators for fools, right now I can tell you 2 or 3 ways to avoid any risks of detecting these kinds of "transactions". They can only be detected with the mooglemail log, but OH DAMN, only the administration can see it... how come... It turns out you have to be a moderator to find corrupt moderators... Perfect conditions to reward moderators, by vote of moderators... GLORY TO THE MODERATORS!
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Mar 25 2023, 19:51
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Sad Penguin
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QUOTE(KingArtson @ Mar 25 2023, 17:42)  Such problems take a long time to solve, and if you consider that you have been struggling with AI for a long time, you could have discussed it much further. (And considering HV is being developed at a snail's pace, this task could have been set as early as 2018...)
Plus you don't have to hold moderators for fools, right now I can tell you 2 or 3 ways to avoid any risks of detecting these kinds of "transactions". They can only be detected with the mooglemail log, but OH DAMN, only the administration can see it... how come...
It turns out you have to be a moderator to find corrupt moderators... Perfect conditions to reward moderators, by vote of moderators... GLORY TO THE MODERATORS!
I don‘t think this is a good approach to assume 10b just coding new game rule for rewarding other active mod with simply some stupid EDs, for what? BOT or speculation? This is kinda stupid, just sent them 100m privately if 10b want to do it.
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Mar 25 2023, 19:54
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Noni
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QUOTE(KingArtson @ Mar 25 2023, 18:42)  Such problems take a long time to solve, and if you consider that you have been struggling with AI for a long time, you could have discussed it much further. (And considering HV is being developed at a snail's pace, this task could have been set as early as 2018...)
Plus you don't have to hold moderators for fools, right now I can tell you 2 or 3 ways to avoid any risks of detecting these kinds of "transactions". They can only be detected with the mooglemail log, but OH DAMN, only the administration can see it... how come...
It turns out you have to be a moderator to find corrupt moderators... Perfect conditions to reward moderators, by vote of moderators... GLORY TO THE MODERATORS!
I'm just a volunteer, just as much a regular HV player as everyone. When I have conversations with tenboro - and I rarely do - it's just on the open IRC channel. But I don't care if you trust me. I think many HV players like what I do. And if they don't - just complain to tenboro he's the only one who can do something about us 'corrupt moderators'. Wait, I do pin my own auction. Does that count as corruption? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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Mar 25 2023, 21:12
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KitsuneAbby
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I hate AIs, and anything that needs to be done to punch those fucktards has to be done. If you guys have to "bear with it" so cheaters can go cook themselves an egg, then be it.
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Mar 25 2023, 21:23
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wp541788
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This update will subvert the gameplay After stopping PA acquisition of energy drinks, Good equipment → Play games more times →get better equipment, this cycle will be broken It's not difficult to just pass through Arena The powerful equipment has lost its usefulness Players really don't need too many energy drinks anymore Of course, I believe you have more plans to release Can give players new goals Waiting for more updates from you Maybe not, then I will be very grateful to say to you (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Sincerely thank you for freeing me from my addiction to playing "HV"
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Mar 25 2023, 21:51
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Basara Nekki
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@Tenboro
Without Energy Drink, what is the new percentage distribution between Crystals, Hath, Last Elixir and PAB points?
Or do you intend to add another item in place?
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Mar 25 2023, 22:46
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Tenboro

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QUOTE(Basara Nekki @ Mar 25 2023, 20:51)  Without Energy Drink, what is the new percentage distribution between Crystals, Hath, Last Elixir and PAB points?
Or do you intend to add another item in place? I didn't change the distributions, just now when it rolls an item it's always a last elixir rather than 50/50 with energy drinks. I might add some other items to replace it, but I'm not really sure what to add that a) people want and b) won't flood the market.
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Mar 25 2023, 23:04
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Basara Nekki
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QUOTE(Tenboro @ Mar 25 2023, 17:46)  I didn't change the distributions, just now when it rolls an item it's always a last elixir rather than 50/50 with energy drinks. I might add some other items to replace it, but I'm not really sure what to add that a) people want and (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) won't flood the market. Could it be tokens (Chaos/Blood)? [Untradeable Item] This would at least give some value to the artifacts.
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Mar 25 2023, 23:20
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15112006
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QUOTE(Basara Nekki @ Mar 25 2023, 18:04)  Could it be tokens (Chaos/Blood)? [Untradeable Item]
This would at least give some value to the artifacts.
I second this. Especially if it's Chaos Tokens only.
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Mar 25 2023, 23:32
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Necromusume
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They could give more crystals, since there will be a lot less coming from Grindfest.
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