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Those kimchivores stole our blue house!

Its kind of funny that Kim Il-Sung blamed the blue house raid on crazy extreme left wing nutjobs.

Does it actually add anything to academia or society other than to divide?

That does not change the validity of it.
Is it talked about too much and given too much importance? Yeah. But that doesn't mean that it's actually wrong. I just don't think it deserves to be considered a whole field of study.

And it was largely constrained to academia until some people who had no fucking clue what they were talking about decided to get triggered by it. My city had a flood of parents calling schools to complain about their nonexistant CRT curricula because tucker carlson or whoever told them about it.

Re: bible: I only brought it up because praising someone who is "owning the libs" by being as retarded as the libs doesn't feel like much of anything to celebrate.

Having lived in the bible belt, I have nothing but acrimony for people who try to push their denomination of christian values on the rest of us. The same as people who try to push their ideas about sexuality on the rest of us forcibly.

CRT is a "BLAME OTHERS" moral judgement approach for life. It doesn't add any new research to academia or society.

It's not blaming individuals, though. it's pointing out that systemic issues don't always just solve themselves when their initial cause is remedied, since it has already done damage to its targeted group.

Also I am a sociology minor; I don't need a website to tell me what to think about CRT. I think it's overhyped and not really a big deal at all. Especially not in the way fox news plays it up.
I don't know why people are so upset about it unless they feel personally attacked by macro-level sociological theories.

Seriously, why is this such a big deal/so controversial to anyone? It's not hurting anybody to just talk about it, is it? It feels like a manufactured talking point that people are determined to be upset about.

Dalits in India (untouchables) and "Burakumin" in Japan have the same kind of thing going on, except that there it's not "race" centric as much as based on other things in their ancestry they had no control over. Where something that their ancestors did or had done to them results in less opportunities for distant descendants now. Just because it's not legal to discriminate against burakumin doesn't mean they don't have a stigma or live in areas with fewer opportunities. But I don't hear anyone bitching and moaning about statements like that. Just if it involves black people.

TL;DR: Methinks thou dost protest too much.

My theory is that people who are most upset about CRT's very existance are the same people who get super upset about confederate statues being taken down (I don't think they should be taken down, but it really doesn't impact my life either way so I don't really care).

This post has been edited by dragontamer8740: Apr 28 2022, 09:12

That does not change the validity of it.

Its it correct? Does it predict reality and is it actually useful?

Racism does exist, its a heuristic glitch in our brains that is very useful in high risk low information situations in our evolutionary history.

However, the ideas that the world is entirely a social construct and that construct is determined by language, and that language created a system of oppression and that the world now is completely defined as a result by racial oppression,

The criticism of original Marxism and later critical theory, was they it was only valid during the height of the industrial revolution when the treatment of workers was absolutely horrific, and America having moved through that now that the racial lens was a better at examining the structures of oppression. The problem being that the self same justification for CRT applies to itself, that there was a period in US history where racial oppression and racism were horrific and the main source of oppression. We have moved past the peak of that point is history, but all rational measures so even if the theory was completely valid 50-100 years ago, as society has progressed it is increasingly losing its validity.

Is it talked about too much and given too much importance? Yeah. But that doesn't mean that it's actually wrong. I just don't think it deserves to be considered a whole field of study.

But universities can make loads of money selling degrees where all the content can actually be taught in one semester.

Its also kinda a trap, with African Studies for example attracting a lot of African Americans with the promise of high grad wages but that is actually for the White Women who do the degree as an undergrad stepping stone before doing grad law or grad medicine.

I'd make African American Studies heavily discounted or free for African Americans.

Having lived in the bible belt, I have nothing but acrimony for people who try to push their denomination of christian values on the rest of us. The same as people who try to push their ideas about sexuality on the rest of us forcibly.

Radical leftists remind me of the fundamentalists Christians of 20 years ago. its the same kind of person thumping everyone with their CRT and mental illness religion. Arguably the bible was cheaper, as they charge a lot to get far left degrees but some churches charged 20% of your income.

What I'm seeing is that your problem here is academia; I think it doesn't have to be an academic issue but it should be at least something people in the US are marginally aware of.

I have too much fun writing a lot of nothing.

This post has been edited by AhumanRS: Apr 28 2022, 20:47

academia

is something that's actually more stupid than you'd imagine.

Believe me, I know it's retarded. And so are a lot of people in it. That's a beautiful screenshot; saved.

I just think that the stupidity of people who circlejerk about something doesn't mean the subject is utterly meritless.

The concept is good, but people who try to 'go further' with the concept make asses of themselves.

This post has been edited by dragontamer8740: Apr 28 2022, 20:19

What I'm seeing is that your problem here is academia; I think it doesn't have to be an academic issue but it should be at least something people in the US are marginally aware of.

People should be aware of racism, they should be aware of history, they should be aware of psychology and philosophy.

We could be better off without nazis, fascism, communism, marxists and CRT and perhaps all of the political theories that emerged from constructionist thought.

I believe the world is real, even if our measurement is subjective. That doesn't mean we need to go creating dystopian political movements every three seconds to 'construct' the world with language, propaganda and violence. Constructivism seems to lead to violence an awful lot when its applied to the real world, simply because other people can subjectively say they think your view is wrong just as you subjectively think you are right.

When constrained to academia, it may provide some interesting analysis and insight, but in the real world it leads to conflict due to our nature. Once people are aware of how racism works psychologically, it can be reduced and managed. Once people take something like CRT into their hearts, then conflict is going to happen.


Edit: Brandon: "Putin is a Kleptomaniac, that is leading a kleptocracy"


I suppose that is somewhat accurate.

This post has been edited by EsotericSatire: Apr 29 2022, 00:36

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[en.wikipedia.org] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far-left_politics


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[en.wikipedia.org] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far-right_politics

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[en.wikipedia.org] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far-left_politics

"Some people claim that the far left is responsible for mass killings (100m+) but we can't agree on how they are even defined. They are mostly just anti-capitalist good guys, so we can just delete all the examples".

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[en.wikipedia.org] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far-right_politics

"Far right are the devil, anyone we claim is far right is the devil, sure some of these groups listed here thought they were left wing groups but really they are all evil, here are all the examples of the anti-marxist bad guys, even though most of these groups are now defunct, this page makes it sound like they control the planet"


Its almost like they think Communists/Marxists are not far left.

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[en.wikipedia.org] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far-left_politics
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[en.wikipedia.org] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far-right_politics

I honestly think it's just because the far left has become so marginalized in recent decades as to be unworthy of note in much of the world.
While I would love to blame it on the far right being too retarded and authoritarian to appreciate or understand the precepts of wikipedia as an open font of knowledge, I know some intelligent people on the far right. They're horribly authoritarian, racist and sometimes misogynistic, but they can still hold more reasoned discussions/debates with me than most people I meet on the far left – though there are of course exceptions to this rule.

In most western countries the far right is unacceptable and there are far left politicians in government.

Having borders, families, sexes, and a market economy are not far right positions.

With the mass media and social media sympathetic to the activists its hard to say they are marginalized.

What is marginalized is centrist and popular leftists. anti-war, pro-free speech, pro-science, pro-freedom, anti-establishment government seem to be getting marginalized.

Far left isn't against authoritarianism, they are against totalitarianism. Authoritarianism is great if its implementing Marxist and far left ideals.

Without strict standards and qualifications anything 'open' becomes corrupt.

The reason democracy fails is because the plebs are stupid and there is no qualification required to vote like IQ, they just keep voting for professional liars who want to stuff their pockets.

Also the reason gate-keeping is a must to protect anything people build, it's been proven that making things inclusive ruins everything, the old enemy within the gates inevitability.

It's obvious with stuff like Disney, Magic The Gathering, videogames(and adaptations), why do you think memes like kangz and i built this exist?


I still can't wrap my head around elections for a head of state being held every 4-5 years in western nations, that's obvious instability and undoing everything the previous party achieved, it's basically status quo except leftists always want more so it's a countdown to war and destruction.

I would like it to be 20 years to a lifetime so it's at least manageable and to an extent examine the effects of policy changes.

This post has been edited by Pillowgirl: Apr 30 2022, 02:11

The crazy thing I saw recently was that lead levels / IQ measurements and crime were highly correlated with a time lag.

Putting lead in fuel increased crime for a generation. Imagine what Social media addiction is doing.

Far left isn't against authoritarianism, they are against totalitarianism. Authoritarianism is great if its implementing Marxist and far left ideals.

That's a good point; I was oversimplifying things to the point of making them wrong. Far left is as capable of authoritarianism as far right.

Having borders, families, sexes, and a market economy are not far right positions.
What is marginalized is centrist and popular leftists. anti-war, pro-free speech, pro-science, pro-freedom, anti-establishment government seem to be getting marginalized.

^Pictured:
people refuse to do things in moderation

Having sexes is not a far right position

Whether transphobia and trans-denialism are far-right positions or not, they still aren't acceptable or justifiable. And non-binary people are real too, and they don't need to accept abuse either. You don't have to be a heterofeminine or heteromasculine stereotype to be a person, to be real and to have rights.

And no, concern trolling over womens' sports by people who never gave a shit about women anyway doesn't justify any of it.

Viewing gender as a straitjacket and wanting to murder anyone who refuses to comply is probably a conservative position.

I said sex not gender or gender expression.

Biology is not conservative politics.


Brandon increased restrictions on oil drilling. Cause inflation good?

This post has been edited by EsotericSatire: May 1 2022, 05:33

I said sex not gender or gender expression.

Biology is not conservative politics.
Brandon increased restrictions on oil drilling. Cause inflation good?

It still strikes me as splitting hairs when it really doesn't matter in the big picture. Is this really a thing that you can spend all of your time thinking about?