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When are the weapons typically announced?

Usually around the weekend.

Edit:
Uh, yeah, I'm going to be gone till Sunday evening, so just leave any bets or comments here and I'll update everything when I get back.

This post has been edited by cowpies: Jul 8 2010, 20:27

Indeed. You haven't been doing too well in this lately have you, Zen?

Quite.

well, someone has to compensate for greg's winning streak

That used to be my winning streak.

oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooookay. So, The thingy with the weapons won't be out till sometime later this week.

Mongols vs. Comanche will be airing next Tuesday.

oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooookay. So, The thingy with the weapons won't be out till sometime later this week.

Mongols vs. Comanche will be airing next Tuesday.

That could be a good one - hope the Commanche get to keep their Winchesters though ' cause the Mongols are just plain nasty with thier compound bows on horseback. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

Isn't the Winchester a rifle brand?

Somehow, I don't think that's going to be an iconic Comanche weapon...

Anyways, looks like the Mid-range weapon is out for Comanche: The War Lance
[www.spike.com] http://www.spike.com/video/human-skewers/3431141

That's kind of sad. The "wars" the Plains tribes faught before the serious conflict with the US Army were often simply Honor Wors, warriors counting coup instead of really fighting. Yes their were exceptions, expecially with the Crow and the Blackfeet, rarely was there any real fighting and few injuries. By the time the tribes realized that real war was heading their way in the form of the professional Army and not cowboys, possies, and militia units, most warriors had given up the lance and the bow for the rifle, quite often the Winchester because the Indians were the only other market besides the civilians for them. The Army wasn't allowed them for fear that they would use up too many rounds of ammo, They were stuck using rebuilt Springfields single-shot breachloaders that had the single advantage of outranging the Winchester. The Army's real advantages were better logistics, heavier weapons when needed such as the six-barrled 3-pounder Hochkiss gun and the 10 and 12 pound cannons - the tribes had no match. George Custer aside, the Army also had better leadership - Phill Sheridan helped Sherman develope the concept of Total War that destroyed the deep South and the tribes had no answer to this either.

They stood no chance in the long run - Sheridan's mission was to finally put an end to the Plains Indian Wars and he was given the tools to do it. I'm afraid that the Mongols would take the same approach, this time hunting the foe that dared to stand against them into oblivion. Wouldn't be the first time they wiped out entire peoples, hell they did it to rebel Mongol tribes as well. The US Army was mercifull by comparison to the Mongol hoards. The Commanche will be defeated soundly would be my wager. Not from lack of courage or honor, simply a technological gap, and a very different view of warfare.

your points may be valid, but this isnt warfare, but a 1on1 duel(probably)since it's pre gunpoweder time, though we have seen a squad fight in that time, but that was attila vs Alexander, where the 4 adds kinda acted like bodyguards.

Anyways, looks like the Mid-range weapon is out for Comanche: The War Lance
[www.spike.com] http://www.spike.com/video/human-skewers/3431141

That armor was quite pathetic.

The few episodes I've watched included squad-sized units fighting as well as single combat ie Alexander the Great vs Atilla the Hun and Muscateers vs Han warriors. Again the Commanche comes up short as outside of a "cavalry" type charge, most of their battle styles were man-to man. Again I greatly respect the Commanche's battle-spirit, but they come up short on the technology and tactics angle yet again.

Uh... what the deuce are you talking about?

Anyway, The weapons were announced.

Comanche:
Long Range- Bow and Arrow
Mid Range- War Lance
Short Range- War Hawk Club
Special Weapon- Scalping Knife

Warriors rode on the side of their horses, which acted as a shield from their enemies. In battle, they would surround their enemies. Many warriors would slide down on one side of their horse to be shielded from death or injury. A warrior would then hook one foot over the horse’s back and shoot arrows from under the horse’s neck. In order to avoid being hit, the warrior would slide far over to the side of the horse so that almost none of his body was visible to the opponent. This was useful during battle because they were able to shoot arrows from over or under their horses’ necks while their body remained out of sight.

Jesus Christ! O.o
Mongol:
Long Range- Composite Recursive Bow and Arrow
Mid Range- Glaive
Short Range- Iron flanged mace (Seriously? That's where It's from?)
Special Weapon- Ild Sword (Sabre)


Anyways, Would anyone like to place their bets now?

Short Range- Iron flanged mace (Seriously? That's where It's from?)

[en.wikipedia.org] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flanged_mace#...ory_of_the_Mace
....I'm confused as well

*Shrug*

Eh~ Whatever. They get what they get. Anyway, will anyone else be placing a bet?

ATM, I'm Going to side with Forth, Just so he's not alone on the Comanche side (And also, just in case of an upset. Seriously, that archery style sounds awesome.)

Scalping knife!? Can it kill human?

So who are in the next match-up? Hope it's better balanced this time around too.

Is anyone else confused by the weapon choises the hosts make sometimes. Like giving the Waffen SS troops Bergamann SMGs (only a few thousand were ever produced by 1918) as opposed to the Sg-44-the first true assult rifle and direct parent of the AK47, dispite it's designer's claims. In the same show they insisted on giving the Viet Cong a Fench SMG that was a true piece of juck, often blowing up in it's owner's hands. Charlie actually prefered the Chinese Carbine Mod-56, which is a pice-by-piece copy of the Soviet SKS - a very reliable and acurate semi-auto that uses the same ammo as the AK47. I have one-I'd prefer it over our own AR-15. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

Anyway, to get back on point, this seems to be a common problem on this this show. While they often get it right, when they get it wrong they seem to do so in a big way, as the time they made such a fuss over the difficult to deply Han land mine. Impressive weapon, but just how often are you really going to get to use it? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Anyway, to get back on point, this seems to be a common problem on this this show. While they often get it right, when they get it wrong they seem to do so in a big way, as the time they made such a fuss over the difficult to deply Han land mine. Impressive weapon, but just how often are you really going to get to use it? huh.gif

As with the Taser Shockwave, Car Bomb and Punji sticks pit traps, they're assuming that both sides generally have at least a little time to set up trap-based weapons.

also, I'm doubtful on how often a French gun would "Explode in the users hands".
That seems a little counter-productive to what the French would have had in mind. Jam? Maybe.

Anyways, the next match (after this current one) is Navy SEALs vs. Israeli Commandos.

Scalping knife!? Can it kill human?

Forth, if this show has taught you nothing else, it should teach you that EVERYTHING can kill you. Minus the things that just make you WISH you were dead (Followed by sweet, sweet death.)

Hmm, hemoglobin.

Forth, if this show has taught you nothing else, it should teach you that EVERYTHING can kill you. Minus the things that just make you WISH you were dead (Followed by sweet, sweet death.)

Ninja's black egg from season 1 had 0 kills. Granted it was the worst weapon ever, as it was as much of a weapon as a smoke bomb. (poison darts instead? c'mon)

Well, throwing crushed glass in someone's eyes would fall under "Things that would make you wish you were dead (Followed by sweet release of death)"

But yeah... are people just running out of credits or something? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) There used to be more bets...