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Deadliest Warrior is a show that takes two warriors from different cultures and times and pits them against each other in a fight to the death after testing out the power of each warrior's weaponry.

So the way the pool would work is such:

• There's an initial Buy-In of 5,000 Credits.
• You put your credits into the pot (Send Credits to me, Cowpies), and Declare which warrior you think will win the fight
• I lump you into that warrior's camp
• On the night of the Showing, we sit back and watch the two warriors go at it.
• If your warrior wins, you (and anyone else in your camp) split the prize between you all. Yaaaay~ If You lose, you get the gift of Disappointment.
• In the event everyone places a bet on only one warrior, I'll put up 5,000-10,000 Credits of my own to sweeten the pot a bit. That, and a blatant attempt to keep all the credits myself for betting on the underdog.
• Betting remains open until about 6pm Central Cow Time on the day of the battle. (Generally, tuesday)

So, Who feels lucky? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Match over! WINNER:S.W.A.T.
Attila the Hun vs. Alexander the Great
Match over! WINNER:Attila the Hun
Jesse James vs. Al Capone
Match over! Winner: Jesse James!!
Go Fuck yourself, you inbred cow rapist (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) Capone should have won, dammit!
Aztec Jaguar warrior vs. Azande warrior
Match over! Winner: Azande
Niam-Niam~
Nazi SS vs. Viet Cong
Match over! Winner: Nazi Waffen SS!
Indian Rajput vs. Roman Centurion
Match over! Winner:India's Rajput Aara aara?
Somali Pirates vs. Medellin Drug Cartel
Match over! Winner: Somali Pirate
Clap clap clap~
Persian Immortal vs. Celts
Match over! Winner: Persian Immortals (Narrowly dodged THAT one...)
KGB vs. CIA (wtf?)
Match over! Winner: CIA
Vlad the Impaler vs. Sun Tzu
Match over! Winner: Vlad the Impaler
Ming Warrior vs. French Musketeer
Match over! Winner: French Musketeer

Comanche vs. Mongol
Pot is currently at: 30,000 Credits
Mongol

Zenmetsu Saseru, Sukihi, Coloris

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Comanche

Forth_Lancer, Gregorius, Cowpies

Navy SEALs vs. Israeli Commandos
Pot is currently at: 30,000 Credits
Navy SEALs

[Restricted], Zenmetsu Saseru, CHEPPE, Cowpies

Israeli Commandos

Forth_Lancer, [Blocked], Coloris

This post has been edited by cowpies: Jul 26 2010, 18:38

Five on the cross-eyed one.

Is it 1v1 or army vs army?

Sometimes, but this battle is obviously between the two. The last "group" effort, was Green Berets vs. Spetsnaz.

This show is going to be retarded. There's not nearly enough information on the actual person of Attila for it to go down well. I imagine that despite the difference 700 years of technology makes, Alexander will fuck him up just because of the difference in physique.

Most likely. But then there's the easy money if you feel like he'll win.

The last "group" effort, was Green Berets vs. Spetsnaz.

Not true. Last Group Effort was the Season 1 finale, IRA vs. Taliban.
Slingshot, ftw.

Oh, whoops.

So, anyways BunBun, does this mean you'll be betting on Alexander? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Maybe. I need to see more about what is actually going on in the contest.

I dislike the show, they don't take everything into account and tend to make snap judgments based on non-full evidence.
I.E. clubs breaking on helms, when the people wielding those clubs wouldn't be so dumb as to try to hit the helmet directly.
The show is more about entertainment sand watching the "experts" talk shit to each other than actual scientific testing, but they try to claim their work is scientific.

You have selected to transfer 5000 Credits to member: cowpies

Message: For attila the Hun to win.

Make it happen, Pies.

I dislike the show, they don't take everything into account and tend to make snap judgments based on non-full evidence.
I.E. clubs breaking on helms, when the people wielding those clubs wouldn't be so dumb as to try to hit the helmet directly.
The show is more about entertainment sand watching the "experts" talk shit to each other than actual scientific testing, but they try to claim their work is scientific.

Yup, agreed. Just watched an ep.

Betting on Deadliest Warrior is like a game of chance. The matchups are utter bullshit and their simulator is an over-glorified battle calc from Civ. Onoes, my Knight lost to a Warrior because of a shitty attack roll. You might as well flip a coin, because it doesn't fucking matter who's in the fight and what they're bringing.

Also, fuck them for not doing pirate versus ninja.

5000 C for Attila the Hun.

I dislike the show, they don't take everything into account and tend to make snap judgments based on non-full evidence.
I.E. clubs breaking on helms, when the people wielding those clubs wouldn't be so dumb as to try to hit the helmet directly.
The show is more about entertainment sand watching the "experts" talk shit to each other than actual scientific testing, but they try to claim their work is scientific.

The Club to the Helmet thing was to determine how much damage the Apache would do to the Gladiator's head if they attacked it while he's wearing it. If you thought you could kill someone by smashing their head with a club and all that's stopping you is a sheet of metal, are you telling me you wouldn't try? I think it's a legitimate test, because even if it's a stray swing, there are going to be times you'd hit the head, and any time one combatant is wearing armor, you have to test the weapon vs. armor to see how much damage the weapon does.
Either way, If you think about it, the shit talking is perfectly natural. They've gotten 2-3 people who've studied their warriors, if they aren't already part of the group (Green Beret vs. Spetsnaz), and ask them to explain and demonstrate why their warrior is the best. But they DO actual testing. It's just boring to see grenades being exploded for an entire episode in various circumstances to determine their effects. Like getting the Average speed of the slingshot while Skoti is shooting targets through the Cronometer. Showing the exact same test over and over and over and over again gets boring. They test the weapon a lot, but only may show the first time to get Max's, Jeff's, and Dr. Dorian's initial responses. Make sense?

Also, in the Aftermath, you find most of the tension or hostility between the two camps is mostly editing to make the show more dynamic. And that "The Edge" doesn't translate into any advantage in the simulator, it's just which weapon they think will be more effective.

So, besides presentation, do you two have any actual problems with the premise?

Betting on Deadliest Warrior is like a game of chance.

Which is what makes it fun.

my Knight lost to a Warrior because of a shitty attack roll.

Your knight lost to a guy with a shotgun. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) The whole thing with the knight is, if he doesn't kill the pirate outright with the Crossbow, then he has to get into melee. And while he's drawing in close, the Pirate's weaponry, namely the grenade and the Blunderbuss, are at their most effective at short to mid range, and also have enough force to potentially KO the knight.
Also, it's 1000 fights, so, your knight would have to have horrifically bad luck.

5000 C for Attila the Hun.

Make it happen, Pies.

Done and Done. No love for Alexander?

This is going to suck balls.

Your knight lost to a guy with a shotgun. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) The whole thing with the knight is, if he doesn't kill the pirate outright with the Crossbow, then he has to get into melee. And while he's drawing in close, the Pirate's weaponry, namely the grenade and the Blunderbuss, are at their most effective at short to mid range, and also have enough force to potentially KO the knight.

This was more a reference to crazy Civ shenanigans. I don't actually have any qualms about the outcome of the Pirate vs. Knight battle. After all, it was gunpowder that ended the knight's domination in warfare and pirates were quite adept at using gunpowder to fuck shit up regardless of whether or not they were following the directions on the box about "proper usage".

But still, I wish they did tell us more about how their simulator works. All we know is gigantic spreadsheets full of their test data and 1000 battles with a breakdown of how often each weapon manages to make a kill. A brief explanation would have sufficed. I'll concede its a fault of post-production, since it is SPIKE after all, and they're targeted at red-blooded, steak-eating, manly American men who love sports and violence and sexy women doing sexy things while wearing sexy outfits.

Attila vs Alexander is a tough call because its hard to get an idea of what kind of weapons they'll have, but they'll likely be similar enough to be essentially the same. In that respect, this match-up is a good one -- its anyone's game and the victor will be the one who just fights better.

You know, I've never actually even heard of this show and I'm pretty sure at this point I never want to even watch it.

I'll concede its a fault of post-production, since it is SPIKE after all, and they're targeted at red-blooded, steak-eating, manly American men who love sports and violence and sexy women doing sexy things while wearing sexy outfits.

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also, it's better than seeing Fugly women, doing disturbing things, in Quaker outfits, right? (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (Or, Manly men doing the same activity in the same outfits... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif) ew.)

After all, it was gunpowder that ended the knight's domination in warfare

That, and it's cheaper to arm 20 peasants with pistols than it is to arm (And train) one knight with a sword.
England's Longbow-Trained archers had a longer range, better accuracy, and arguably better armor penetration than the Colonial musket, but the problem was that, while it takes almost no skill to fire a gun and possibly kill someone, The archers took years of practice. *Shrug*

Attila vs Alexander is a tough call because its hard to get an idea of what kind of weapons they'll have, but they'll likely be similar enough to be essentially the same. In that respect, this match-up is a good one -- its anyone's game and the victor will be the one who just fights better.

That's what makes it fun to bet on (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) C'moooon~ You know you wanna...