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post Dec 6 2011, 20:38
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QUOTE(varst @ Dec 6 2011, 22:22) *
Well, if I have to choose among estoc, longsword, katana and scythe....
Scythe of Illithid with high ADB may also work.
And the debate topic is 'without using a mace', so mace is out (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
Hmm... Ethereal Katana? Well, everybody can dream. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Same goes for scythe, I suppose... As for others, I've used this before I've got my ethereal mace, and it wasn't bad. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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post Dec 6 2011, 20:44
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QUOTE(varst @ Dec 6 2011, 12:46) *

Sushi, when you say it's not possible to clear IWBTH arenas on decent length, does it include using some ethereal estoc of Illithid, together with soul harvest?
That's the best option I can imagine.

I can't answer that question unless such a weapon exists. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Even if it does, I'd doubt it'd be viable anyways.
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post Dec 6 2011, 21:46
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QUOTE(varst @ Dec 7 2011, 02:22) *

@Ballistic9
Well, somehow I think it's easier to ET than to alternate between holy/dark spells, but that's my personal preference.
I also don't like mixing elements, but trying that won't hurt (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
And yes, mixing won't help for lower difficulty.
Strategy for IWBTH and BT should be slightly different (no weaken/nerf, for example), but I agree to your observation.


Yeah, lemme clarify: what I meant by only if you have to (vs. schoolgirls), is if you're trying to kill them when you don't have a holy/dark EDB phase set yet in the arena.

I haven't done BT arena in a while, used to use Heimdall set with 1 Mana Elixir + Spirit Elixir as backup (for To Kill A God - Trio). Needed to Weaken the higher PL mobs when I started, eventually didn't have to. Monsters are tougher now so maybe that won't work anymore, I'll try a few with the Fenrir set. I guess my argument against having a mixed set is that (with Holy/Dark at least) you can use the elemental debuff to negate resistance. The debuff explosion damage is nice but you shouldn't depend on it for the majority of your damage (too little).

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post Dec 7 2011, 00:41
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QUOTE(Evil Scorpio @ Dec 6 2011, 12:18) *

Meh... Maces drops fine from the Shrine for me, but what to do with them? I have 3 Exquisite and 6 Fine/Superior maces in my shop since Sunday and nobody wants to buy it... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Everybody need ethereal maces, usual ones are rarely interesting for players nowadays. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

People don't care if its not an auction. I once Bazaar'd a max PA ass-kicking Slaughter estoc and I see an auction with shitty ones getting bid on.
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post Dec 7 2011, 00:46
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post Dec 7 2011, 01:22
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what should I do if I want to play at higher difficulty? at my level I don't have access to regen and other awesome magic, so if I want to do higher difficulty how should I go?

Also for those who play mage, what status spells are worth it? like sleep, silence, etc etc.
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post Dec 7 2011, 03:16
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QUOTE(DSpooky @ Dec 6 2011, 15:22) *

what should I do if I want to play at higher difficulty? at my level I don't have access to regen and other awesome magic, so if I want to do higher difficulty how should I go?

Also for those who play mage, what status spells are worth it? like sleep, silence, etc etc.


Weaken, Silence, Bewilder, Blind, Slow, Nerf, and X-Nerf are great. I'm not there yet so I could be wrong, but I think I remember hito or someone mentioning that Magnet is useful for the Dragons. You might want to add Poison to the mix, but I never use it anymore; for that matter, I don't use Bewilder and Silence anymore either, but they might be useful on higher difficulties like BT and IWBTH (I wouldn't know).

As for Supportive spells, Arcane Focus, Haste, Shadow Veil, Spark of Life, Regen II, and Spirit Shield.

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post Dec 7 2011, 04:19
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Ok, I've got two questions to ask and depending on the answer, then I may or may not require a better explanation of Action Speed. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

1. Does Action Speed in the Derived Attributes section of the Character screen account for the decrease from Burden?
2. Does Effective Proficiency in the character screen account for the decrease from Interference?
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post Dec 7 2011, 04:22
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No and yes.
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post Dec 7 2011, 05:05
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Alright, thanks. Now I don't have to panic from the fact that my action speed looked like it decreased from switching to Ethereal Weapons.
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post Dec 7 2011, 11:19
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QUOTE(Sushilicious @ Dec 7 2011, 00:35) *

If you are a melee player, you can do the following without a mace:

1) All arenas up to Trio on BT with a scythe, estoc, longsword, etc (I used to clear the higher end arenas regularly on BT with a bleeder).

2) As for IWBTH, with the current gear that we have, it's not possible to clear any decently long arena on this difficulty.


I agree with this. Although IMO in order to clear higher arena at BT ... Smart-playing, Finesse, and a good preparation & planing are required.*

The sad thing is that... The killing speed is, as far as my experience tell me, no different than just using eth mace... And using mace is significantly easier. So, why bother... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)





** Or maybe its just me... since I use lv1 IA and only lv.2 pack rat...

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post Dec 7 2011, 12:41
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Right, so I have this rather newbie problem.

I just started playing HV, and I can't seem to find a way to earn experience, nor credits.

I've done rounds over rounds of grindfest, yet after each round, the game thoughtfully informs me that I haven't gained any experience.

Somehow, I managed to level up to 1(not sure how, i went to sleep, then the next day I was level 1) and did the first Arena challenge, but I wasn't awarded any experience or credits. (I'm still stuck on 25 credits).

Could I get some hints on how to get myself going on actually grinding the game, instead of simple fighting in vain?

By the way, I'm on Nightmare difficulty. I figured I'd earn exp if I pump it up a bit, no-go.
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post Dec 7 2011, 12:48
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QUOTE(HenryHowardHolmes @ Dec 7 2011, 02:41) *

Right, so I have this rather newbie problem.

I just started playing HV, and I can't seem to find a way to earn experience, nor credits.

I've done rounds over rounds of grindfest, yet after each round, the game thoughtfully informs me that I haven't gained any experience.

Somehow, I managed to level up to 1(not sure how, i went to sleep, then the next day I was level 1) and did the first Arena challenge, but I wasn't awarded any experience or credits. (I'm still stuck on 25 credits).

Could I get some hints on how to get myself going on actually grinding the game, instead of simple fighting in vain?

By the way, I'm on Nightmare difficulty. I figured I'd earn exp if I pump it up a bit, no-go.


Is your Stamina over 10? If it's not, then you won't earn Experience or Credits. You gain Stamina at a rate of 20 over the course of a day, so just wait until it's at 99 (or at least over 20) and everything should be fine.

http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Stamina

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post Dec 7 2011, 12:49
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QUOTE(HenryHowardHolmes @ Dec 7 2011, 18:41) *

Right, so I have this rather newbie problem.

I just started playing HV, and I can't seem to find a way to earn experience, nor credits.

I've done rounds over rounds of grindfest, yet after each round, the game thoughtfully informs me that I haven't gained any experience.

Somehow, I managed to level up to 1(not sure how, i went to sleep, then the next day I was level 1) and did the first Arena challenge, but I wasn't awarded any experience or credits. (I'm still stuck on 25 credits).

Could I get some hints on how to get myself going on actually grinding the game, instead of simple fighting in vain?

By the way, I'm on Nightmare difficulty. I figured I'd earn exp if I pump it up a bit, no-go.


Again, stamina problem.

You can get to level 1 because you'll get some experience from 'dawn of a new day'

However, right now you can't gain any experience because your stamina is below 10.
So....wait until your stamina climbs back to above 10, and you'll be fine.
My advice is to wait until you get 99 stamina though, so you can gain the benefit of great stamina everyday.
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post Dec 7 2011, 12:54
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QUOTE(n125 @ Dec 7 2011, 18:48) *

Is your Stamina over 10? If it's not, then you won't earn Experience or Credits. You gain Stamina at a rate of 20 over the course of a day, so just wait until it's at 99 (or at least over 20) and everything should be fine.

http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Stamina



QUOTE(varst @ Dec 7 2011, 18:49) *

Again, stamina problem.

You can get to level 1 because you'll get some experience from 'dawn of a new day'

However, right now you can't gain any experience because your stamina is below 10.
So....wait until your stamina climbs back to above 10, and you'll be fine.
My advice is to wait until you get 99 stamina though, so you can gain the benefit of great stamina everyday.


Thank you both for the information.

My stamina is indeed very low. (2)
I guess I should wait for a few days before I start grinding.

Thank you, again.
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post Dec 7 2011, 13:47
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QUOTE(buktore @ Dec 7 2011, 13:19) *
Or maybe its just me... since I use lv1 IA and only lv.2 pack rat...

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post Dec 7 2011, 14:59
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Seeing as no one wants to notice my regular little thread =(
https://forums.e-hentai.org/index.php?showtopic=52025
Question @ high level melee players
Please post there if you have answers/opinions

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post Dec 7 2011, 16:48
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Equipment: Pros/cons for the following? power armor (slaughter) vs kevlar (protection) vs shade (fleet or shadowdancer).

- Power armor: + High damage, OK defense / - High Burden & Interference, A good piece is quite rare
- Kevlar: + Pretty good defense, Easy & Cheap to buy-get, Not so high Bur & Inf / - Doesn't increase damage
- Shade: + Increase DMG & Crit, No burden on SD suffix, High resist / - Quite rare & expensive, Unreliable & Not so good defense

What do you consider the most important buffs to keep up on yourself?

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- Haste
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post Dec 8 2011, 00:27
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This is probably bad place to ask this, but should I always vendor low lvl stuff? I feel hesistant about just selling things like Fine Eth Longsword of Balance or Shade chest of Fleet (just examples of my ~lvl75 backlog). So, if anyone can confirm that no one will ever want things below 200, I could put my doubts to rest...
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post Dec 8 2011, 00:32
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QUOTE(Valheran @ Dec 7 2011, 22:27) *

This is probably bad place to ask this, but should I always vendor low lvl stuff? I feel hesistant about just selling things like Fine Eth Longsword of Balance or Shade chest of Fleet (just examples of my ~lvl75 backlog). So, if anyone can confirm that no one will ever want things below 200, I could put my doubts to rest...


people buy "junk" from the bazaar all the time that they are happy to level up. Just because something is lower level doesn't make it junk. I just picked up some boots level 65 that i'm going to keep.

Just look at the What a Shame thread
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