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post Aug 22 2017, 16:52
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Aug 22 2017, 16:09) *

you should salvage whenever the net worth of items earned from that (ie: LG/MG/HG materials + scraps + eventually cells) is higher than what bazaar gives you.
long story short, only items worth salvaging are non-matching Mag+ Cloths and Staffs/Shields - especially if bounded at high levels.

really not worth to code it, if you ask me.

Agree not worth the code: especially with the new sell all feature. That's so much faster! And to get materials: try farming some monsters.
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post Aug 22 2017, 17:29
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Aug 22 2017, 16:52) *

Agree not worth the code: especially with the new sell all feature. That's so much faster! And to get materials: try farming some monsters.

ah yes, you can use that to esteem the exact incoming, yep.
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post Aug 22 2017, 20:15
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At what level should someone spend credits to get GP for the lottery for a chance to win a prize? The Weapons Lottery Prizes today are the highest they've been in awhile because of all the tickets sold.

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post Aug 22 2017, 20:23
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At what level should someone spend credits to get GP for the lottery for a chance to win a prize? The Weapons Lottery Prizes today are the highest they've been in awhile because of all the tickets sold.

You mean precise? Exactly when he want to buy GP to put them into lottery tickets. Not sooner, not later.
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post Aug 22 2017, 23:45
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QUOTE(Celes777 @ Aug 22 2017, 21:15) *

At what level should someone spend credits to get GP for the lottery for a chance to win a prize? The Weapons Lottery Prizes today are the highest they've been in awhile because of all the tickets sold.

There is no exact level when one should do this. You may start buying tickets right from level 1 or wait until level 300. I think, it is good idea to wait until you would be able to receive at least 100,000 credits per day. Yes, such income in a day is possible if you wondering, even 350,000 per day is possible - just from arena raid and few RE.
On lower levels you have better opportunities to spend money with sense, than spending them on Lotteries. You should buy good weapons (from auction, if possible), trainings, items, pony figures, hath perks, and so on - they all are better way to spend your money than Lottery.
On other hand, you can buy tickets right from level 1, there is no restrictions and - who knows - maybe you will be a next winner of Grand Prise with just 1 ticket in =)
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post Aug 23 2017, 00:53
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What would be better for Peerless Fiery Redwood Staff of Destruction - Pen5 Arch4 or Pen5 Sp4? Would it work on PFUDOR with full charged set?

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post Aug 23 2017, 01:39
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I have very strange and bizarre question.
Does HentaiVerse have any window/page where both player's equipment and items are shown?
What I mean is on a Item Shop screen player can see only his items, on a Equipment Inventory page player can see his equips only, same for Forge and Item World, but not for Salvage screen - here player can see his items only. Now, is this any window where player can see both his items and equipments, apart from MoogleMail screen?
I am working on one script and want to be 100% sure that screens like this are not exist (or exist).

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post Aug 23 2017, 01:52
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QUOTE(Benny-boy @ Aug 23 2017, 00:53) *

What would be better for Peerless Fiery Redwood Staff of Destruction - Pen5 Arch4 or Pen5 Sp4? Would it work on PFUDOR with full charged set?

There is no single answer, PFUDOR is just the level of difficuty.
PFUDOR arenas, PFUDOR IW and PFUDOR Fest are three different things.

If you just want to do some arenas Pen5Arch4 is probably better, you're not going to cure too much with imperil elemental and an increase of nearly 3% of damage is not bad.
For IW and Fests Pen5Sp4 is a lot better since needing less cures and spirit potions/elixirs is much better than a bit more damage.

Probably something around:

Arenas: Pen5Arch4

IW:
< IWBTH: Pen5Arch4
IWBTH: About the same?
PFUDOR: Pen5Sp4

Fest:
<Nintendo: Pen5Arch4
Nintendo: About the same?
> Nintendo: Pen5Sp4

This thinking about a well forged set, the less forged you are and the lower level the better Spellweaver is.
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post Aug 23 2017, 02:03
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Aug 23 2017, 02:52) *

There is no single answer, PFUDOR is just the level of difficuty.
PFUDOR arenas, PFUDOR IW and PFUDOR Fest are three different things.

This thinking about a well forged set, the less forged you are and the lower level the better Spellweaver is.


So cast speed is better overall, and magic damage is for max arena/PFUDOR IW efficiency? Does it works for holy mage too?
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post Aug 23 2017, 03:26
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QUOTE(Benny-boy @ Aug 23 2017, 02:03) *

So cast speed is better overall, and magic damage is for max arena/PFUDOR IW efficiency? Does it works for holy mage too?

Magic damage => less turns attacking
Cast speed => less turns curing (and less spirit damage)

So, with higher incoming damage (difficult modes or weak mage) spellweaver is better.
The real issue is that you can't really get the grasp of it unless you start playing.

Anyway, for starting I would recommend going the spellweaver way (it's not like you absolutely have to get Pen5Spe4, try to get the Pen5 part and consider spellweaver an added bonus), the first impression of maging is usually shocking since you're moving from impressive defenses to basically no armor.

Holy mage need spellweaver, in the time you cast Paradise Lost you can cast Imperil 3 times.
So to get the same result of Imperil 1-2-3 Imperil 4-5-6 Imperil 7-8-9 Elemental T3 (3.4 action time) a holy mage needs Paradise Lost Banishment Smite Paradise Lost (6.6 action time).
Well, not exactly the same result, but the idea is that the incoming damage is easily 1.5X more, so spellweaver is really important.
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post Aug 23 2017, 08:24
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QUOTE(Benny-boy @ Aug 23 2017, 00:53) *

What would be better for Peerless Fiery Redwood Staff of Destruction - Pen5 Arch4 or Pen5 Sp4? Would it work on PFUDOR with full charged set?

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No doubt, no options: pen5+spell4 is the best, by far. What I do is I go 3 charged+ 2radiant through arenas, and 4charged+1radiant through PFfest. You could consider something similar. But don't go for arch.


Why? Because with my build already 3/2 or even 3/4 of the time per round is imperil phase. All curing is in imperil phase.

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post Aug 23 2017, 11:20
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QUOTE(f4tal @ Aug 23 2017, 01:39) *

Does HentaiVerse have any window/page where both player's equipment and items are shown?
What I mean is on a Item Shop screen player can see only his items, on a Equipment Inventory page player can see his equips only, same for Forge and Item World, but not for Salvage screen - here player can see his items only. Now, is this any window where player can see both his items and equipments, apart from MoogleMail screen?
I am working on one script and want to be 100% sure that screens like this are not exist (or exist).

not that i know. with 0.86 patch inventories have been divided, and that was basically the only page with such feature, so...
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post Aug 23 2017, 20:30
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One of the issues I'm noting with fire mage is that Sapo84 has been so successful at getting people to look this way (manga522, sickentide, etc) that there is some competition for fire pieces these days.

How often does a good elemental staff of any kind appear in auction (much less a LFRD)?

Given the fact that most decent cloth equipment is of level 500, does it make sense to make any serious commitment to mage before level 450?

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post Aug 23 2017, 21:04
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QUOTE(Muddybug @ Aug 23 2017, 20:30) *

One of the issues I'm noting with fire mage is that Sapo84 has been so successful at getting people to look this way (manga522, sickentide, etc) that there is some competition for fire pieces these days.

The only competion on fire pieces I see is atn, and you can still both buy decent radiant phases for <2M so I'm not sure I'm seeing what you're seeing.
Also manga522 went the fire mage route because he has a Peerless fire staff, not because I said that fire mage is among the best elemental mage due to cheap clothes (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)

QUOTE(Muddybug @ Aug 23 2017, 20:30) *
How often does a good elemental staff of any kind appear in auction (much less a LFRD)?

Depends on what you mean with "good".
Anyway, from rarely to very rarely.

QUOTE(Muddybug @ Aug 23 2017, 20:30) *
Given the fact that most decent cloth equipment is of level 500, does it make sense to make any serious commitment to mage before level 450?

You can soulfuse level 500 clothes at level 400 so why not?
And it's not like you need to start with full radiant/charged set.

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post Aug 23 2017, 22:34
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QUOTE(Muddybug @ Aug 23 2017, 14:30) *

One of the issues I'm noting with fire mage is that Sapo84 has been so successful at getting people to look this way (manga522, sickentide, etc) that there is some competition for fire pieces these days.

How often does a good elemental staff of any kind appear in auction (much less a LFRD)?

Given the fact that most decent cloth equipment is of level 500, does it make sense to make any serious commitment to mage before level 450?

Mu double d y


Where are there auctions?
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post Aug 23 2017, 22:52
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QUOTE(Celes777 @ Aug 23 2017, 22:34) *

Where are there auctions?

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post Aug 24 2017, 00:22
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Aug 23 2017, 12:20) *

not that i know. with 0.86 patch inventories have been divided, and that was basically the only page with such feature, so...

Thank you very much!
I have remembered that HentaiVerse has one screen with both items and equips but could not find it anywhere. Now I see that one of the patches removed that screen, less hustle for me then.

One question more, guys/ladies.
How exactly base value of stat is calculated?
1) when I press C button and watch equip closely, I can hover over stat to see its ~base~ value. Is it true base value, or base value with forge and IW in account?
2) if latter is true (and I think it is), how can one find the real base value of stat? I assume there should be some weird, screwed formula and I dare/scare to see it...
3) supposed we have vanilla item - some average equip with no suffix and prefix. Now, what suffixes and prefixes can modify its base value? For example, average rapier has its own ADB, but average rapier of slaughter has higher ADB, however both average rapier and average rapier of banshee have same ADB (or do they?).

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post Aug 24 2017, 00:56
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QUOTE(f4tal @ Aug 24 2017, 00:22) *

1) when I press C button and watch equip closely, I can hover over stat to see its ~base~ value. Is it true base value, or base value with forge and IW in account?
2) if latter is true (and I think it is), how can one find the real base value of stat? I assume there should be some weird, screwed formula and I dare/scare to see it...
3) supposed we have vanilla item - some average equip with no suffix and prefix. Now, what suffixes and prefixes can modify its base value? For example, average rapier has its own ADB, but average rapier of slaughter has higher ADB, however both average rapier and average rapier of banshee have same ADB (or do they?).

1. this way: https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Level_Scaling. it takes into account forge and iw, if present. if only iw is present, then math is quite simple and it basically affects only ADB and MDB. if forge is present as well, math is more complicated and still not fully discovered

2. as i said, more complicated math is involved. atm i guess that the most precise tool is my set of forge spreadsheets, which give very good results for the forge matrix, but still a little error in calculating the base roll. sadly i cannot improve them more than this without tenboro's hints. let's see if i'll have success...
and no, you don't want to see the math sheet. the database one should already be enough (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

3. yes, they do. check here: https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Equipment_Ranges
whatever prefix or suffix changes that stat - more than one stat is possible, like ACC/Crit for Balance and MACC/MC/BUR for Battlecaster. if the cell on the second column is empty, then nothing modifies the roll range (this includes PABs, since what's written is only the acronym). whatever other suffix/prefix (including no prefix/suffix at all) is treated as the vanilla stat
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post Aug 24 2017, 01:32
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Thanks, Scremaz =)
Eh, as I fear I have to check Equipment Comparison and Percentile Ranges scripts to find exact formulas. I have seen fornulas inside them, but main mechanics is still vague for me. I just can't intuitively got it, like I am 3-grade scholar and trying to understand Lobachevsky's Geometry.
It is okay to have an end result in form of database, but I still want to understand how and why numbers are as they are.

Well, will dig in scripts then.
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P.s. someone should write a book about stats growning in HentaiVerse.

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post Aug 24 2017, 01:45
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Thanks, Scremaz =)
Eh, as I fear I have to check Equipment Comparison and Percentile Ranges scripts to find exact formulas. I have seen fornulas inside them, but main mechanics is still vague for me. I just can't intuitively got it, like I am 3-grade scholar and trying to understand Lobachevsky's Geometry.
It is okay to have an end result in form of database, but I still want to understand how and why numbers are as they are.
Well, will dig in scripts then.

nah, i'll give you them. no clue what equip comparison uses, but at least percentile's should come from me.
just give me a bit of time to hear eventual updated from tenboro.
maybe i'll have to tell you only once (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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