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Aug 22 2017, 14:35
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f4tal
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Thank guys! So, it is not worthy to care about getting right materials (like HGMetal, LGwood) by myself and it is way easier to bazaar it all (but very valuable) and just create WTB request?
Like, why should I care to get materials by myself, if people can sent them to me? =)
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Aug 22 2017, 14:41
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(f4tal @ Aug 22 2017, 14:35)  Like, why should I care to get materials by myself, if people can sent them to me? =)
it's not a matter of hassle. it's a matter of economy. say, you need HGM and you drop something like this: https://hentaiverse.org/equip/133602610/7678bcfbfa. now, HGM is worth 800c. that waki is worth roughly 3.5k (3501c to be exact). you salvage the waki, you earn 1 HGM plus a few scraps. you bazaar the waki and use the incoming to purchase HGM, you can earn 4 HGM. with power armors there's even more advantage.
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Aug 22 2017, 15:37
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f4tal
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QUOTE you salvage the waki, you earn 1 HGM plus a few scraps. you bazaar the waki and use the incoming to purchase HGM, you can earn 4 HGM. with power armors there's even more advantage. Ohh, no I see your point. Thank you for clear explanation. Yeash, I kinda suck in math =) QUOTE There may be some equipment that are slightly better to salvage but you need to check the price (and sell scraps/LG/MG later) so it's not worth the effort without a script doing the work for you imho. If you (or anyone) don't mind - can one tell me when it is better to salvage item than bazaar it? What formula I can use and how to calc it properly? I think we (I?) can put it in a script and release it for public use. I don't think it will violate any rules. Or if script with this functionality is already exist, can someone give me a link? =)
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Aug 22 2017, 16:09
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(f4tal @ Aug 22 2017, 15:37)  If you (or anyone) don't mind - can one tell me when it is better to salvage item than bazaar it? What formula I can use and how to calc it properly? I think we (I?) can put it in a script and release it for public use. I don't think it will violate any rules.
Or if script with this functionality is already exist, can someone give me a link? =)
you should salvage whenever the net worth of items earned from that (ie: LG/MG/HG materials + scraps + eventually cells) is higher than what bazaar gives you. long story short, only items worth salvaging are non-matching Mag+ Cloths and Staffs/Shields - especially if bounded at high levels. really not worth to code it, if you ask me.
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Aug 22 2017, 16:52
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Noni
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Aug 22 2017, 16:09)  you should salvage whenever the net worth of items earned from that (ie: LG/MG/HG materials + scraps + eventually cells) is higher than what bazaar gives you. long story short, only items worth salvaging are non-matching Mag+ Cloths and Staffs/Shields - especially if bounded at high levels.
really not worth to code it, if you ask me.
Agree not worth the code: especially with the new sell all feature. That's so much faster! And to get materials: try farming some monsters.
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Aug 22 2017, 17:29
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Aug 22 2017, 16:52)  Agree not worth the code: especially with the new sell all feature. That's so much faster! And to get materials: try farming some monsters.
ah yes, you can use that to esteem the exact incoming, yep.
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Aug 22 2017, 20:15
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Celes777
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At what level should someone spend credits to get GP for the lottery for a chance to win a prize? The Weapons Lottery Prizes today are the highest they've been in awhile because of all the tickets sold.
This post has been edited by Celes777: Aug 22 2017, 20:15
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Aug 22 2017, 20:23
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(Celes777 @ Aug 22 2017, 20:15)  At what level should someone spend credits to get GP for the lottery for a chance to win a prize? The Weapons Lottery Prizes today are the highest they've been in awhile because of all the tickets sold.
You mean precise? Exactly when he want to buy GP to put them into lottery tickets. Not sooner, not later.
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Aug 22 2017, 23:45
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f4tal
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QUOTE(Celes777 @ Aug 22 2017, 21:15)  At what level should someone spend credits to get GP for the lottery for a chance to win a prize? The Weapons Lottery Prizes today are the highest they've been in awhile because of all the tickets sold.
There is no exact level when one should do this. You may start buying tickets right from level 1 or wait until level 300. I think, it is good idea to wait until you would be able to receive at least 100,000 credits per day. Yes, such income in a day is possible if you wondering, even 350,000 per day is possible - just from arena raid and few RE. On lower levels you have better opportunities to spend money with sense, than spending them on Lotteries. You should buy good weapons (from auction, if possible), trainings, items, pony figures, hath perks, and so on - they all are better way to spend your money than Lottery. On other hand, you can buy tickets right from level 1, there is no restrictions and - who knows - maybe you will be a next winner of Grand Prise with just 1 ticket in =)
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Aug 23 2017, 00:53
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Benny-boy
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What would be better for Peerless Fiery Redwood Staff of Destruction - Pen5 Arch4 or Pen5 Sp4? Would it work on PFUDOR with full charged set? Oshiete! (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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Aug 23 2017, 01:39
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f4tal
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I have very strange and bizarre question. Does HentaiVerse have any window/page where both player's equipment and items are shown? What I mean is on a Item Shop screen player can see only his items, on a Equipment Inventory page player can see his equips only, same for Forge and Item World, but not for Salvage screen - here player can see his items only. Now, is this any window where player can see both his items and equipments, apart from MoogleMail screen? I am working on one script and want to be 100% sure that screens like this are not exist (or exist).
Thanks.
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Aug 23 2017, 01:52
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Sapo84
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QUOTE(Benny-boy @ Aug 23 2017, 00:53)  What would be better for Peerless Fiery Redwood Staff of Destruction - Pen5 Arch4 or Pen5 Sp4? Would it work on PFUDOR with full charged set?
There is no single answer, PFUDOR is just the level of difficuty. PFUDOR arenas, PFUDOR IW and PFUDOR Fest are three different things. If you just want to do some arenas Pen5Arch4 is probably better, you're not going to cure too much with imperil elemental and an increase of nearly 3% of damage is not bad. For IW and Fests Pen5Sp4 is a lot better since needing less cures and spirit potions/elixirs is much better than a bit more damage. Probably something around: Arenas: Pen5Arch4 IW: < IWBTH: Pen5Arch4 IWBTH: About the same? PFUDOR: Pen5Sp4 Fest: <Nintendo: Pen5Arch4 Nintendo: About the same? > Nintendo: Pen5Sp4 This thinking about a well forged set, the less forged you are and the lower level the better Spellweaver is.
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Aug 23 2017, 02:03
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Benny-boy
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Aug 23 2017, 02:52)  There is no single answer, PFUDOR is just the level of difficuty. PFUDOR arenas, PFUDOR IW and PFUDOR Fest are three different things.
This thinking about a well forged set, the less forged you are and the lower level the better Spellweaver is.
So cast speed is better overall, and magic damage is for max arena/PFUDOR IW efficiency? Does it works for holy mage too?
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Aug 23 2017, 03:26
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Sapo84
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QUOTE(Benny-boy @ Aug 23 2017, 02:03)  So cast speed is better overall, and magic damage is for max arena/PFUDOR IW efficiency? Does it works for holy mage too?
Magic damage => less turns attacking Cast speed => less turns curing (and less spirit damage) So, with higher incoming damage (difficult modes or weak mage) spellweaver is better. The real issue is that you can't really get the grasp of it unless you start playing. Anyway, for starting I would recommend going the spellweaver way (it's not like you absolutely have to get Pen5Spe4, try to get the Pen5 part and consider spellweaver an added bonus), the first impression of maging is usually shocking since you're moving from impressive defenses to basically no armor. Holy mage need spellweaver, in the time you cast Paradise Lost you can cast Imperil 3 times. So to get the same result of Imperil 1-2-3 Imperil 4-5-6 Imperil 7-8-9 Elemental T3 (3.4 action time) a holy mage needs Paradise Lost Banishment Smite Paradise Lost (6.6 action time). Well, not exactly the same result, but the idea is that the incoming damage is easily 1.5X more, so spellweaver is really important.
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Aug 23 2017, 08:24
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Noni
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QUOTE(Benny-boy @ Aug 23 2017, 00:53)  What would be better for Peerless Fiery Redwood Staff of Destruction - Pen5 Arch4 or Pen5 Sp4? Would it work on PFUDOR with full charged set? Oshiete! (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) No doubt, no options: pen5+spell4 is the best, by far. What I do is I go 3 charged+ 2radiant through arenas, and 4charged+1radiant through PFfest. You could consider something similar. But don't go for arch. Why? Because with my build already 3/2 or even 3/4 of the time per round is imperil phase. All curing is in imperil phase. This post has been edited by DJNoni: Aug 23 2017, 08:28
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Aug 23 2017, 11:20
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(f4tal @ Aug 23 2017, 01:39)  Does HentaiVerse have any window/page where both player's equipment and items are shown? What I mean is on a Item Shop screen player can see only his items, on a Equipment Inventory page player can see his equips only, same for Forge and Item World, but not for Salvage screen - here player can see his items only. Now, is this any window where player can see both his items and equipments, apart from MoogleMail screen? I am working on one script and want to be 100% sure that screens like this are not exist (or exist).
not that i know. with 0.86 patch inventories have been divided, and that was basically the only page with such feature, so...
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Aug 23 2017, 20:30
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Muddybug
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One of the issues I'm noting with fire mage is that Sapo84 has been so successful at getting people to look this way (manga522, sickentide, etc) that there is some competition for fire pieces these days.
How often does a good elemental staff of any kind appear in auction (much less a LFRD)?
Given the fact that most decent cloth equipment is of level 500, does it make sense to make any serious commitment to mage before level 450?
Mu double d y
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Aug 23 2017, 21:04
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Sapo84
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QUOTE(Muddybug @ Aug 23 2017, 20:30)  One of the issues I'm noting with fire mage is that Sapo84 has been so successful at getting people to look this way (manga522, sickentide, etc) that there is some competition for fire pieces these days.
The only competion on fire pieces I see is atn, and you can still both buy decent radiant phases for <2M so I'm not sure I'm seeing what you're seeing. Also manga522 went the fire mage route because he has a Peerless fire staff, not because I said that fire mage is among the best elemental mage due to cheap clothes (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) QUOTE(Muddybug @ Aug 23 2017, 20:30)  How often does a good elemental staff of any kind appear in auction (much less a LFRD)? Depends on what you mean with "good". Anyway, from rarely to very rarely. QUOTE(Muddybug @ Aug 23 2017, 20:30)  Given the fact that most decent cloth equipment is of level 500, does it make sense to make any serious commitment to mage before level 450?
You can soulfuse level 500 clothes at level 400 so why not? And it's not like you need to start with full radiant/charged set. This post has been edited by Sapo84: Aug 23 2017, 21:04
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Aug 23 2017, 22:34
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Celes777
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QUOTE(Muddybug @ Aug 23 2017, 14:30)  One of the issues I'm noting with fire mage is that Sapo84 has been so successful at getting people to look this way (manga522, sickentide, etc) that there is some competition for fire pieces these days.
How often does a good elemental staff of any kind appear in auction (much less a LFRD)?
Given the fact that most decent cloth equipment is of level 500, does it make sense to make any serious commitment to mage before level 450?
Mu double d y
Where are there auctions?
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Aug 23 2017, 22:52
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(Celes777 @ Aug 23 2017, 22:34)  Where are there auctions?
WTS
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