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Aug 20 2017, 23:01
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macBad
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Hello everyone,
I'm only level 83 and was looking to changing up my style to this game. I want to go into the field for mages but I do not know what abilities would matter. I know what stats would matter. Any suggestions?
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Aug 20 2017, 23:27
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chjj30
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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Joined: 5-January 14

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Wait and Play Melee to lv 310 and then think of Mage, because without the Imperil with 0 Cooldown is Mage not better.
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Aug 20 2017, 23:28
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WeebLife
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 27-September 07

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Aug 21 2017, 01:24
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Sapo84
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(RoadShoe @ Aug 20 2017, 18:10)  So the increase in damage from Archmage, even with a 1.5x multiplier, still does not outweigh Spellweaver or Penetrator.
Damage multiplier doesn't really matter since the increase is still the same percentage. If the increase is 1.7/1.8% (depends on how many radiants/how good the MDB value of the staff is) it means that Arch4 vs Arch0 is better when the last turn of a round with Arch0 has monsters with less than 1.7/1.8% of health. This doesn't happen as frequently to justify not getting +5.87% cast speed, which is massive. Arch4 vs Spellweaver4 is the magic damage of an exquisite radiant shoes vs the cast speed of a leg shoes + cast speed of a leg gloves. Penetrator is not even in the same league, Penetrator5 is >4% of damage so double the effectiveness of archmage + it also helps deprecating spells. This post has been edited by Sapo84: Aug 21 2017, 01:24
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Aug 21 2017, 04:05
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RoadShoe
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 3,241
Joined: 9-August 15

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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Aug 20 2017, 16:24)  Damage multiplier doesn't really matter since the increase is still the same percentage. If the increase is 1.7/1.8% (depends on how many radiants/how good the MDB value of the staff is) it means that Arch4 vs Arch0 is better when the last turn of a round with Arch0 has monsters with less than 1.7/1.8% of health. This doesn't happen as frequently to justify not getting +5.87% cast speed, which is massive.
Arch4 vs Spellweaver4 is the magic damage of an exquisite radiant shoes vs the cast speed of a leg shoes + cast speed of a leg gloves.
Penetrator is not even in the same league, Penetrator5 is >4% of damage so double the effectiveness of archmage + it also helps deprecating spells.
Thank you! That explains in a way I understand. Now of course, pulling off Penetrator5/Spellweaver4 isn't as easy as I'd like it to be. But I shall soldier on until I use up every amnesia shard ever produced. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Edit: How do you guys keep tabs on Karma? I've always searched the thread for whoever. That's not working out. I forget where I left off. I don't give enough karma. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) This post has been edited by RoadShoe: Aug 21 2017, 16:05
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Aug 21 2017, 17:32
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galdon
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Joined: 15-November 12

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Haven't played the hentaiverse in a little while. So... I'm apparently a one handed swordsman with a shield. (I thought I remembered being a mage but I guess I changed style) anything huge change that I should be aware of or just keep stabbing things to death?
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Aug 21 2017, 17:43
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f4tal
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Joined: 10-January 13

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QUOTE anything huge change that I should be aware of or just keep stabbing things to death? Changes were more visual-wise and technical-wise (lots of fixes in MoggleMail, Monster Lab, more polished interface, new HP/MP/SP bars, so on). Melee is played same as year ago - just stab'em'up to death. The only thing, I can came up right now, that may be useful for melee - now every day of the week grants boost to certain element, and one day (friday?) boosts all magic elements. So if you are using infusion or your weapon has elemental strike, then you can get advantages based in certain day. (elements are fire, elec, ice, wind, holy, dark). Read more info in HVwiki if you want. This is not a huge thing to care about, but it is good to know. Read advice page to know what you should do, when and how : https://ehwiki.org/wiki/HentaiVerse_Advice_Advanced
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Aug 21 2017, 17:54
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Cleavs
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 24,317
Joined: 18-January 07

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in case you play with scripts, it's suggested to use Monsterbation. it has everything you need and it's 100% legit.
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Aug 21 2017, 19:33
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rokyroky
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In a hypothetical case that the players did not create monster, against which we would fight ?, with ghosts and whales with but level ?. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) By the way, why did they remove dragon armor and scythes ?. Having a dragon armor with a scythe feel it is very cool (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool2.gif)
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Aug 21 2017, 19:36
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(rokyroky @ Aug 21 2017, 19:33)  By the way, why did they remove dragon armor and scythes ?. Having a dragon armor with a scythe feel it is very cool (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool2.gif) yes. but it's not they, it's him
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Aug 21 2017, 19:42
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(rokyroky @ Aug 21 2017, 19:33)  In a hypothetical case that the players did not create monster, against which we would fight ?, with ghosts and whales with but level ?. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) No, as far as i remember, there are some hentaiverse own monsters, i am quite sure the Cockatrice is one of them. But at a certan level you dont meet them any longer and all you meet are player created monsters. Also why should no one create monster? Everytimer one of them bring me a phazon is like xmas. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) QUOTE(rokyroky @ Aug 21 2017, 19:40)  Ah! I'm sorry, my English is not very good so I supported the translator (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) What scremaz wanted to tell you is there is only one person who decide something like that. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) This post has been edited by Uncle Stu: Aug 21 2017, 19:43
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Aug 21 2017, 19:42
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KitsuneAbby
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 7,572
Joined: 12-July 14

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QUOTE(rokyroky @ Aug 21 2017, 19:33)  In a hypothetical case that the players did not create monster, against which we would fight ?, with ghosts and whales with but level ?. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) By the way, why did they remove dragon armor and scythes ?. Having a dragon armor with a scythe feel it is very cool (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool2.gif) The generic monsters have absolutely terrible stats and no spirit attack, that's why you ultimately stop seeing them. When you know that at some point player monsters hurt much more than schoolgirls, or even FSM, you know everything.
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Aug 21 2017, 19:44
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Aug 21 2017, 19:42)  Also why should no one create monster? Everytimer one of them bring me a phazon is like xmas. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) /me nods. too bad it happens as often as christmas though. QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Aug 21 2017, 19:42)  What scremaz wanted to tell you is there is only one person who decide something like that. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) /me nods again.
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Aug 21 2017, 20:36
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rokyroky
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Aug 21 2017, 19:42)  No, as far as i remember, there are some hentaiverse own monsters, i am quite sure the Cockatrice is one of them. But at a certan level you dont meet them any longer and all you meet are player created monsters. Also why should no one create monster? Everytimer one of them bring me a phazon is like xmas. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) What scremaz wanted to tell you is there is only one person who decide something like that. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) It's not that bad to create monster. It's just that I was curious how the game would be without ^^ I misunderstood. I thought they had been taken away by a player's choice. If it was admin's decision then there is not much to investigate (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/duck.gif)
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Aug 22 2017, 08:19
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KitsuneAbby
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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Joined: 12-July 14

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QUOTE(rokyroky @ Aug 21 2017, 20:36)  It's not that bad to create monster. It's just that I was curious how the game would be without ^^ Boring as fuck. That is, right now it's boring as fuck, but not the same. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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Aug 22 2017, 13:52
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f4tal
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QUOTE Boring as fuck. Fuck is not that boring if you know what you should do xD On a serious side, experts tell me, what is best bazaar/salvage policy for 1H/Heavy? What I do is: >One-handed: Magnificent - salvage, anything else - bazaar; >Two-handed: Magnificent and Exquisite - salvage, anything else - bazaar; >Staff: Magnificent - salvage, anything else - bazaar; >Shield: Magnificent and Exquisite - salvage, anything else - bazaar; >Cloth: Magnificent - salvage, anything else - bazaar; >Light: everything - bazaar; >Heavy: Magnificent, Exquisite and Superior - salvage, anything else - bazaar; What I am doing wrong? =) This post has been edited by f4tal: Aug 22 2017, 13:54
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Aug 22 2017, 13:59
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Sapo84
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QUOTE(f4tal @ Aug 22 2017, 13:52)  On a serious side, experts tell me, what is best bazaar/salvage policy for 1H/Heavy? What I do is: >One-handed: Magnificent - salvage, anything else - bazaar; >Two-handed: Magnificent and Exquisite - salvage, anything else - bazaar; >Staff: Magnificent - salvage, anything else - bazaar; >Shield: Magnificent and Exquisite - salvage, anything else - bazaar; >Cloth: Magnificent - salvage, anything else - bazaar; >Light: everything - bazaar; >Heavy: Magnificent, Exquisite and Superior - salvage, anything else - bazaar;
What I am doing wrong? =)
1H: bazaar 2H: bazaar Staff: Mag+ salvage, otherwise bazaar Cloth: Mag+ salvage, otherwise bazaar Light: bazaar Heavy: bazaar There may be some equipment that are slightly better to salvage but you need to check the price (and sell scraps/LG/MG later) so it's not worth the effort without a script doing the work for you imho.
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Aug 22 2017, 14:02
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friggo
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Aug 22 2017, 14:59)  1H: bazaar 2H: bazaar Staff: Mag+ salvage, otherwise bazaar Cloth: Mag+ salvage, otherwise bazaar Light: bazaar Heavy: bazaar
There may be some equipment that are slightly better to salvage but you need to check the price (and sell scraps/LG/MG later) so it's not worth the effort without a script doing the work for you imho.
I second this post.
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Aug 22 2017, 14:04
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Aug 22 2017, 13:59)  1H: bazaar 2H: bazaar Staff: Mag+ salvage, otherwise bazaar Cloth: Mag+ salvage, otherwise bazaar Light: bazaar Heavy: bazaar
There may be some equipment that are slightly better to salvage but you need to check the price (and sell scraps/LG/MG later) so it's not worth the effort without a script doing the work for you imho.
agree. plus shield - as staff.
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