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Aug 17 2017, 10:30
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Celes777
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Anyone know the estimated odds of getting a magnificent, legendary, or peerless item from a Boss, Legendary, and God class trophy turn-in?
Are the odds better with the God Class trophies like the Tier 4 Sapling Trophy (Minimum Quality: Superior) and Tier 6 Noodly Appendage Trophy (Minimum Quality: Exquisite)?
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Aug 17 2017, 10:33
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Celes777 @ Aug 17 2017, 10:30)  Anyone know the estimated odds of getting a magnificent, legendary, or peerless item from a Boss, Legendary, and God class trophy turn-in?
Are the odds better with the God Class trophies like the Tier 4 Sapling Trophy (Minimum Quality: Superior) and Tier 6 Noodly Appendage Trophy (Minimum Quality: Exquisite)?
1. no. once peerless was fixed (something like 0.0000000002%), don't know if it's still the case. 2. yes. if nothing else, because as you raise tophy tier the lowest equip quality tier is excluded
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Aug 17 2017, 13:08
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Sapo84
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Aug 17 2017, 07:55)  Grinding staff prof to above your level is very difficult. I tried PFfest with 1 hit in every round, and died at round 850. It makes you very vulnerable!
The vulnerable part is not that bad, the crap part is the time you lost doing it and the fact that you have to do it always to have staff prof keep up. What's the point of nerfing my times just to get a 0.0125% damage bonus every level (in my case, destruction staves / radiant phase users will get even lower). Like I said staff prof is dead.
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Aug 17 2017, 13:11
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Noni
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Aug 17 2017, 13:08)  The vulnerable part is not that bad, the crap part is the time you lost doing it and the fact that you have to do it always to have staff prof keep up. What's the point of nerfing my times just to get a 0.0125% damage bonus every level (in my case, destruction staves / radiant phase users will get even lower). Like I said staff prof is dead.
Very wise words. I guess I'll leave my staff prof as it is now, maybe only grind it on the 3 sg arena's where one blow doesn't slow me down that much and exp gain is highest anyway. Yeah, that's probably the way to go.
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Aug 17 2017, 13:31
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yami_zetsu
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Aug 17 2017, 02:52)  Eh? Please, don't see hidden meanings where they aren't (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) I was refering to the fact that it seemed to be a glitch and you were kind of encouraging people to level up prof now, which seems weird if you consider yourself a mod (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) but after trying it and reaching the hard part of the grinding I'm not sure it is a glitch (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) well, at least now I can cast all the spells
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Aug 17 2017, 13:40
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(yami_zetsu @ Aug 17 2017, 13:31)  I was refering to the fact that it seemed to be a glitch and you were kind of encouraging people to level up prof now
of course. admin himself in some istances (like when he made trigger dawns twice in a day because of server resets or something similar) said "good for those who benefitted". why shouldn't i say now "is grinding prof easier? do it while you can". i can also add that you should prioritize the lower ones. QUOTE(yami_zetsu @ Aug 17 2017, 13:31)  seems weird if you consider yourself a mod (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) the weird part is that someone may think that i'm not an user anymore (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)
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Aug 17 2017, 14:08
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Noni
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Aug 17 2017, 14:06)  that is?
My guess: Scremaz saying no to a fine pair of huge knockers.
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Aug 17 2017, 14:09
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Aug 17 2017, 14:06)  that is?
That someone else could be a mod. It is just i did remember that this allready did happend. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)
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Aug 17 2017, 14:37
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Aug 17 2017, 14:08)  My guess: Scremaz saying no to a fine pair of huge knockers.
hmm... it's not that when i see a fine set blood completely leaves my brain, you know...
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Aug 17 2017, 15:56
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Noni
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Aug 17 2017, 13:11)  Very wise words. I guess I'll leave my staff prof as it is now, maybe only grind it on the 3 sg arena's where one blow doesn't slow me down that much and exp gain is highest anyway. Yeah, that's probably the way to go.
It has been fixed by Admin! A toast! A toast to our great Admin! May his path be paved with Hath and all his shoes be radiant!
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Aug 17 2017, 16:07
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Cleavs
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which basically means mages weren't nerfed this time either. rather, they were boosted even more. hmm...
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Aug 17 2017, 16:20
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Muddybug
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Did a test of the new prod improvements (staff prof + without using staff)
I ran a 7 turn arena, with my newly tuned Monsterbation script (old version, but adding the T2 and T3 fire spells now..)
staff prof went from 1.0 to 135, without hitting a thing.
I probably need to ask, since I'm no longer in a grind to 150 elemental prof hell, how "professional" mages use Imperil. Right now I put my cursor on it, and hit 2,5,8 and so forth. This method is slow. Or not all that uncommon, it can become 222 dangit 22555 mage potion 55..
Mu double d y.
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Aug 17 2017, 16:28
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Muddybug @ Aug 17 2017, 16:20)  I probably need to ask, since I'm no longer in a grind to 150 elemental prof hell, how "professional" mages use Imperil. Right now I put my cursor on it, and hit 2,5,8 and so forth. This method is slow.
but afaik they all do it that way.
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Aug 17 2017, 16:32
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SleepDealer
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QUOTE(Muddybug @ Aug 17 2017, 19:20)  I probably need to ask, since I'm no longer in a grind to 150 elemental prof hell, how "professional" mages use Imperil. Right now I put my cursor on it, and hit 2,5,8 and so forth. This method is slow. Or not all that uncommon, it can become 222 dangit 22555 mage potion 55..
Mu double d y.
I use binding function in monsterbation and its quite comfortable: Bind(KEY_Z, Strongest([TargetMonster(2), Cast('Imperil')])); Bind(KEY_X, Strongest([TargetMonster(5), Cast('Imperil')])); Bind(KEY_C, Strongest([TargetMonster(8), Cast('Imperil')]));upd: In SG arenas this will also help you in combination with^: hoverShiftAction = Cast('Imperil'),This post has been edited by SleepDealer: Aug 17 2017, 16:37
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Aug 17 2017, 16:32
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Aug 17 2017, 16:28)  but afaik they all do it that way.
Not all of them. I was told that this is not really necessary with dark and holy. (S)
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Aug 17 2017, 16:37
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Aug 17 2017, 16:32)  Not all of them. I was told that this is not really necessary with dark and holy. (S)
all imperil mages, i meant. keybind or not keybind, that's the reasoning.
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Aug 17 2017, 16:43
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Uncle Stu
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Aug 17 2017, 16:37)  all imperil mages, i meant. keybind or not keybind, that's the reasoning.
Yeah, my bad. (S)
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Aug 17 2017, 18:56
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KitsuneAbby
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QUOTE(friggo @ Aug 17 2017, 06:19)  Just to clarify, binding multiple spells to the same hotkey with Monsterbation isn't allowed, right? With the recent proficiency overhaul, I figured it might make sense to bind a divine + dark + elemental + deprecating spell to a single hotkey and cast it every round to help keep up with the proficiencies. But I'm assuming that's a no-no? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) I was already planning on doing that too. Does mana consumption stil influence the prof gain?
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