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post Aug 16 2017, 14:54
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QUOTE(teddy.bear @ Aug 16 2017, 14:41) *

Ok then I don't appear to be gaining proficiency as I have done a Re and first 5 arenas and it's still at .27. I did start assimilator training before doing the arenas though(if that inteferes somehow) and had only checked proficiency after the RE.



QUOTE(GnHQ @ Aug 16 2017, 14:43) *

Ah, i see, thank you!


update: not a bonus but a glitch. you won't get proficiency until you gained more than you got for free. Bummer.
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post Aug 16 2017, 15:00
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btw, does this mean that all prof gains are tracked natively? i only saw staff one...



also, needing datas about Assimilator training level costs
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post Aug 16 2017, 16:40
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I know it's really early with the update having just come out, but... with the extra proficiency, does it mean that holy/dark mages now only need 1 cotton instead of 2 and elemental mages can go full phase?
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post Aug 16 2017, 17:00
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QUOTE(friggo @ Aug 16 2017, 16:40) *

I know it's really early with the update having just come out, but... with the extra proficiency, does it mean that holy/dark mages now only need 1 cotton instead of 2 and elemental mages can go full phase?

It the cap is really level X 1.2 nearly.
The balance of the game is shifting even more towards mages.
Now high-level imperil mages will probably always one-shot with a T3 and holy/dark non-imperil will get a pretty big damage boost (15.3% damage boost from T3 + 5 base prof + damage from staff prof, cast speed from cloth prof etc etc).
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post Aug 16 2017, 17:37
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QUOTE(friggo @ Aug 16 2017, 08:40) *

elemental mages can go full phase?

No. The max prof factor from naked prof is .32, the target is .68
The optimal prof gear slot just changed.
If I did my math right L-min shoes + L-min Willow staff forged to 5 will get you .68

This is a huge buff, but taking full advantage of it will be expensive.
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post Aug 16 2017, 17:59
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QUOTE(sigo8 @ Aug 16 2017, 17:37) *

No. The max prof factor from naked prof is .32, the target is .68
The optimal prof gear slot just changed.
If I did my math right L-min shoes + L-min Willow staff forged to 5 will get you .68

This is a huge buff, but taking full advantage of it will be expensive.

(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Prices of charged shoes of elementalist will skyrocket!! Both Willow-wielders and Redwood-rockers are going to go for shoes now! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


...what am I laughing about... I don't have shoes... I wear them gloves! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
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post Aug 16 2017, 18:13
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QUOTE(goldenshower @ Aug 15 2017, 23:12) *

Bought this at bazaar.

Magnificent Fiery Rapier of Slaughter, https://hentaiverse.org/equip/125202619/39a92638c7

Is it worth to soulfuse it?
I want Legendary but almost everything I found at WTS and bazaar is high level.


Yes. I used a similar rapier into the later 300s. Be sure to get it IW10'd. If you can't do it, get a friend to.

Or maybe even SidZBear..

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post Aug 16 2017, 18:14
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QUOTE(Muddybug @ Aug 16 2017, 18:13) *

If you can't do it, get a friend to.

Or maybe even SidZBear..

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it's untradeable...
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post Aug 16 2017, 19:05
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QUOTE(sigo8 @ Aug 16 2017, 17:37) *

This is a huge buff, but taking full advantage of it will be expensive.

Why expensive? It just requires a fuckton of grinding for level 500 players and it's unreachable for most of the pre-500 players.
Cold and fire mages are basically out of meta forever since only willow makes sense.
But elec and wind are not in a good spot either.
Dark willow + cap can already exceed 0.8 prof factor when fully forged.
So for endgame dark imperil > elec/wind imperil.

Without Imperil holy can super-easily reach 1.0 prof with shoes + gloves and, on friday and sunday with robe only, making it even stronger (Doracra was getting very good PFUDORFest result with 0.85, with 0.86 I guess Holy will be easily the strongest style even there).
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post Aug 16 2017, 19:10
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QUOTE(Muddybug @ Aug 16 2017, 23:13) *

Yes. I used a similar rapier into the later 300s. Be sure to get it IW10'd. If you can't do it, get a friend to.

Or maybe even SidZBear..

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Yes will do.
My current 1H equipment able to survive IWTBH IW. Still not sure for arena with 70+ round.
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post Aug 16 2017, 20:08
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Aug 16 2017, 19:05) *

Why expensive? It just requires a fuckton of grinding for level 500 players and it's unreachable for most of the pre-500 players.
Cold and fire mages are basically out of meta forever since only willow makes sense.
But elec and wind are not in a good spot either.
Dark willow + cap can already exceed 0.8 prof factor when fully forged.
So for endgame dark imperil > elec/wind imperil.

Without Imperil holy can super-easily reach 1.0 prof with shoes + gloves and, on friday and sunday with robe only, making it even stronger (Doracra was getting very good PFUDORFest result with 0.85, with 0.86 I guess Holy will be easily the strongest style even there).



In practice, it's not that bad: it takes forever to get to +20% proficiency. You can't choose the prof slot based on final proficiency. You will be playing for years with sub-optimal build.

And Redwood Cool/Fire mage has also been buffed, make no mistake. Still seriously good builds.

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post Aug 16 2017, 20:10
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now, let's hope in a melee boost in the next patch...
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post Aug 16 2017, 20:19
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Aug 16 2017, 10:20) *

Since it comes from bazaar, he cannot resell it even now. Check that big red untradeable thing on the top right.

Soulfuse it.


Ah yeah, forgot that. Shucks. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

Melee buff desired: boost the damn domino strike. Like... maybe a bit of OC per target hit?

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post Aug 16 2017, 21:06
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Aug 16 2017, 14:19) *

Melee buff desired: boost the damn domino strike. Like... maybe a bit of OC per target hit?


Melee buff desired: Make every bit of accuracy past 200 for DW add to a chance of a third hit. Also make increasing offhand accuracy past 50% actually useful.
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post Aug 16 2017, 21:29
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Is monsterlab Even profitable.
As mine is a credit and item sink (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)
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post Aug 16 2017, 21:34
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QUOTE(Muddybug @ Aug 16 2017, 09:13) *

Yes. I used a similar rapier into the later 300s. Be sure to get it IW10'd. If you can't do it, get a friend to.

Or maybe even SidZBear..

D-



XD

Work has me super busy right now though D:

I've barely had time to play, what with clocking close to 160hrs of work since the first of the month, and another 80 already on my schedule through the end of next week... I'm on a job site as we speak, with only 3 hrs of sleep in the last 60.

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post Aug 16 2017, 21:37
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QUOTE(ALL_MIGHT @ Aug 16 2017, 22:29) *

Is monsterlab Even profitable.
As mine is a credit and item sink (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)


Well, the monster lab is only profitable if you don't spend crystals on upgrading the monsters. Basically, get them to PL 25 and only feed them crystals to bump their morale when it gets low.

If you start pumping dozens of crystal packs into each monster, it'll probably take you years to break even (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Aug 16 2017, 21:57
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QUOTE(friggo @ Aug 16 2017, 12:37) *

Well, the monster lab is only profitable if you don't spend crystals on upgrading the monsters. Basically, get them to PL 25 and only feed them crystals to bump their morale when it gets low.

If you start pumping dozens of crystal packs into each monster, it'll probably take you years to break even (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)



Something something completionist something something
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post Aug 16 2017, 22:34
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I've always had a garbage fire mage build (Started electric but sapo convinced me Fire was cheaper).

For some time I've been on step 1 of this program:

https://ehwiki.org/wiki/HentaiVerse_Advice_...Getting_Started

and doing it 1H as it proved to be much safer.

but my profs are rising by leaps and bounds.

How high does my prof have to be to start thinking about stage 2?

I think my elemental just exceeded 200..

Mu double d y.
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post Aug 16 2017, 22:36
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QUOTE(Muddybug @ Aug 16 2017, 22:34) *

I've always had a garbage fire mage build (Started electric but sapo convinced me Fire was cheaper).

For some time I've been on step 1 of this program:

https://ehwiki.org/wiki/HentaiVerse_Advice_...Getting_Started

and doing it 1H as it proved to be much safer.

but my profs are rising by leaps and bounds.

How high does my prof have to be to start thinking about stage 2?

I think my elemental just exceeded 200..

Mu double d y.


Good question, the prof increase has changed radically today. Perhaps you should now just start playing full mage to build up the proficiency. And train some Assimilator.
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