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post Jul 29 2017, 18:15
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QUOTE(goldenshower @ Jul 29 2017, 13:08) *

Thanks for the reply before.

Today I have question about trophies and shrine. What trophies have the best chance to get good equipment? I remember getting Magnificent Ethereal weapon. But that before I really understand shrine system. I guess regular such as ManBearPig Tail only throw average or superior.

EHWiki - Trophies

The higher the tier, the higher the odds (theoretically (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) ). But if I were you, I'd sell the trophies. The real chances of getting something good and useful are small.
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post Jul 29 2017, 18:29
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jul 29 2017, 23:14) *

https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Items#Trophies

arena clear drops may not be so accurate, but trophies should. also, consider those are only the *minimum* qualities. absolutely no warranty you'll earn an actually good piece.



QUOTE(Basara Nekki @ Jul 29 2017, 23:15) *

EHWiki - Trophies

The higher the tier, the higher the odds (theoretically (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) ). But if I were you, I'd sell the trophies. The real chances of getting something good and useful are small.


Ok thanks.
Actually I'm planning to try some luck by buying one of this at WTS. My current equipment can only fight at Nintendo for short round. Anything longer than 50 floor either the regen/health draught can't catch up or I will run out of mana.
Today trying Niten style with heavy armor.
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post Jul 29 2017, 18:52
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Protip: you can also have more item slots so that you can use all the items at your disposal. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
Having 9 item slots really helped me a lot surviving the first times I played PFUDOR Item World.

Don't hesitate to throw in scrolls, potions and even elixirs if you're not doing it 100% of the time.

As for the trophies, yes they almost always give garbage. I shrined hundreds of trophies (if not more than a thousand) before obtaining one good Mag weapon. The only trophy with better chances to get something hier tier (which doesn't guarantee it's good) are the noodles.
Trophies suck so much that you have way better loots for clearing the 2 last ROBs and the 3 last arenas in PFUDOR.

Shrining is worth it only for those who have the Follower of Snowflake perk. or for those who have credits to sink in buying noodles.
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post Jul 29 2017, 22:17
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Jul 29 2017, 07:39) *

Yes, Rapier of Slaughter+Waki of the Nimble best parry blablabla, yada yada. But frankly Rapier of the Nimble pairs up pretty well with Shortsword of Slaughter too, if what you want to maximize is the raw damage.

QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jul 29 2017, 08:20) *

well, parry on offhand is so boosted that big variations of parry on mainhand aren't so relevant. for example, swapping this rapier with this other one (almost 4 parry less) gives me a 0.6 parry difference. so yep, on mainhand you may want slaughter.

as decondelite suggested, you may want to go with shortsword of slaughter / rapier of nimble combo at that point. the advantage would be that shortsword are usually pretty cheap.


I'll search for a good shortsword then (and start saving for an awesome rapier of slaughter).
I see you are fused with both rapiers, @Scremaz. Maybe I should do the same with the katana....

Ah, one last question. If I'm going to spend lots of credits, what would be better, ethereal or non-ethereal rapier?
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post Jul 29 2017, 22:39
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For 1H, non-ethereal. For DW or Niten, ethereal.
That being said, don't forget that non-ethereal Leg rapiers have a burden between 6.3 and 7.7. If the actual burden is 7 or below, a featherweight charm will cancel it out completely for 60 mins. That might be a wise choice if you have a hard time finding an ethereal, or if it is way more expensive than a non-ethereal.
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post Jul 29 2017, 22:52
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Jul 29 2017, 17:39) *

For 1H, non-ethereal. For DW or Niten, ethereal.
That being said, don't forget that non-ethereal Leg rapiers have a burden between 6.3 and 7.7. If the actual burden is 7 or below, a featherweight charm will cancel it out completely for 60 mins. That might be a wise choice if you have a hard time finding an ethereal, or if it is way more expensive than a non-ethereal.


Then a non-ethereal. I'd like to try 1H someday :)

Thank you!
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post Jul 30 2017, 08:02
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“life is struggle” that was true

i come to this conclusion by these days rushing without any apprehension

to choose leave all the artifacts for the stamina supply

i got this profits(just C drops/bonus/selling less equips)

≈300K in Credits only from clear of the Arena@PFUDOR

≈90K in Credits only from one round of GF@IWBTH

this this in the ordinary range ?

i was kinda of depressed that GF profits even cant offset the stamina lost (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)
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post Jul 30 2017, 08:11
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QUOTE(manga522 @ Jul 30 2017, 09:02) *
to choose leave all the artifacts for the stamina supply

i was kinda of depressed that GF profits even cant offset the stamina lost (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)


You're kinda contradicting yourself here. If you consider all the artifacts as "stamina supply", then all the credits are already pure profit since the EDs from artifacts offset the stamina anyway.

Besides, the real value of grindfests is in the crystals. Doing a PFUDORfest with maxed Crystarium gets you 6+ packs worth of crystals, so you'll easily make a profit. Plus, it's a good way to farm tokens, especially with Tokenizer.
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post Jul 30 2017, 08:31
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QUOTE(friggo @ Jul 30 2017, 14:11) *

You're kinda contradicting yourself here. If you consider all the artifacts as "stamina supply", then all the credits are already pure profit since the EDs from artifacts offset the stamina anyway.

Besides, the real value of grindfests is in the crystals. Doing a PFUDORfest with maxed Crystarium gets you 6+ packs worth of crystals, so you'll easily make a profit. Plus, it's a good way to farm tokens, especially with Tokenizer.


(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) oops you are right,i fall into my own chaotic thoughts again (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif)

i dont have Crystarium that was a hint

i simply play for GF to level up and get artifacts for keep the circle
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post Jul 30 2017, 12:30
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What's the yellow circle/s that show up above the health bar? I'm playing The Arena.
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post Jul 30 2017, 12:44
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What's the yellow circle/s that show up above the health bar? I'm playing The Arena.


Overcharge. The game was updated to 0.85 recently and that included some interface changes, one among them being the replacement of the Overcharge bar with those yellow pips.
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post Jul 30 2017, 12:45
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What's the yellow circle/s that show up above the health bar? I'm playing The Arena.

the OC charges. each circle equals to 25 OC.
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post Jul 30 2017, 18:20
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Until now I have used staff. Then I realized that I couldn't break through Hell mode.

So I searched and asked for advice and people told me Two-handed are the best option for newbies.

So changed my settings and bought all the gears, but now I'm having more struggle. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)


What should I do now?
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post Jul 30 2017, 19:03
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QUOTE(chyou @ Jul 30 2017, 09:20) *

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Until now I have used staff. Then I realized that I couldn't break through Hell mode.

So I searched and asked for advice and people told me Two-handed are the best option for newbies.

So changed my settings and bought all the gears, but now I'm having more struggle. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
What should I do now?


Even at level 158, you should have at least 3 times more physical damage than you have now.
I would take the time to let these experts see your gear and ability page.

Disclaimer: I am "not" one of the experts, so that's the only advice I'm going to say. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Jul 30 2017, 19:09
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QUOTE(chyou @ Jul 30 2017, 18:20) *

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Until now I have used staff. Then I realized that I couldn't break through Hell mode.

So I searched and asked for advice and people told me Two-handed are the best option for newbies.

So changed my settings and bought all the gears, but now I'm having more struggle. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
What should I do now?

too low DEX, too high INT. also, those bonus from gears seem pretty low. could we see the links of your items, please?
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post Jul 30 2017, 19:10
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QUOTE(chyou @ Jul 30 2017, 18:20) *

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Until now I have used staff. Then I realized that I couldn't break through Hell mode.

So I searched and asked for advice and people told me Two-handed are the best option for newbies.

So changed my settings and bought all the gears, but now I'm having more struggle. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
What should I do now?


your burden is enormous! I believe 2h is only viable with Leather/Shade armors, not with heavy armors.

If you want to play with heavy armor, find a rapier and shield and play 1h.
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post Jul 30 2017, 20:24
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QUOTE(chyou @ Jul 30 2017, 18:20) *

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Until now I have used staff. Then I realized that I couldn't break through Hell mode.

So I searched and asked for advice and people told me Two-handed are the best option for newbies.

So changed my settings and bought all the gears, but now I'm having more struggle. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
What should I do now?


QUOTE(DJNoni @ Jul 30 2017, 19:10) *

your burden is enormous! I believe 2h is only viable with Leather/Shade armors, not with heavy armors.

If you want to play with heavy armor, find a rapier and shield and play 1h.


Actually no it's not that high, just normal. I myself reach 82 burden with my power set, 91 with my shileding plate set. And I had roughly 110 burden when I started playing Power 2H with Superior gear.

My advice: keep that persona for your mage set, and build your plate armor set on another persona. In that new persona, keep INT and WIS at 50, your AGI at 100, and then STR, DEX and END all roughly equal and the highest possible.
And then, of course, adjust your abilities in that new persona.

Last tip: you can reduce your burden by an enormous amount (and thus retrieve some of your crit chance, evade and attack speed) by using Featherweight Shards. They do wonders and you can purchase some near other players for cheap, really.

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post Jul 30 2017, 20:29
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Jul 30 2017, 20:24) *

WIS at 50

way higher. even if you want to stress melee stats, WIS shouldn't be too lower than the main ones.
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post Jul 30 2017, 20:33
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100 if you want, and that's what I'd have done personally. The 50 I gave was mostly to emphasize the fact that it comes after agility.
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post Jul 30 2017, 21:38
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are mentats and above useful/a valid investment?
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