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post Jul 28 2017, 02:38
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QUOTE(as013 @ Jul 27 2017, 03:43) *

Go for it if you think you can't find / won't find a leg slaughter in 1-2 months.

I'll find it, but I don't think I would have credits since I want to invest in other things. I use the rapier for dualwielding and have that one waiting in the storage. I wonder if it would be useful enough to do soulfuse

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post Jul 28 2017, 04:03
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Jul 28 2017, 05:35) *

Why do you bother with deprecating spells if you don't need to use Cure? Of course you will run out of mana if you spam them like a psycho, Arcanist or not! While Sleep can be very useful, Confuse is just a waste of time and mana.

Maybe you've set your difficulty too high aswell?

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I remember gianfrix also selling mid-level stuff aswell. Where has he gone?


my difficult nintendo or hell, nightmare if I'm bored.
maybe I just wrong build. My stats neither Tank or DW. in arena seems fine, but for IW (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)
I need deprecating for longer fight, since my chara focus on attacks. if my attacks not fast enough I can't even use cure (dead by default...(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) ) since my fast attack useful only againts 6 mob,
I used deprecating if mob more than that.

I need to rebuild my chara (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post Jul 28 2017, 10:27
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More than rebuilding your character, you need to use Spark of Life in combination with spirit draughts. I also recommend having spirit potions in your battle items in case some nasty monster brings you below the minimum spirit amount.
Also, as soon as you can start using Spirit Shield, use it.

As for Item World, of course it's way more difficult than arenas. Monsters hit 2% harder at each round, so past round 25 they already have 150% of their attack power, and past round 50 they reach 200%. To top it off, they come in waves of 7-9 in each and every round past round 20.

Frankly, you don't have the proper level and buffs to start IWing your stuff for the moment. You can probably start it around lvl250 because your spirit shield is starting to get better and your equipment aswell. If you have low-grade materials, I recommend you to use them on your Exquisite equipment to increase their efficiency. That is, if you're not geared with full Exquisite, you should seriously start doing it.

But enough talking, show us your stats, gear and abilities and we can give you some advice on what to do to improve.
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post Jul 28 2017, 20:18
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someone tell me about Orbital Friendship Cannon
- is it worth
- is it magic damage or physical damage
- which is strong ones Flames of Loki or Orbital Friendship Cannon
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post Jul 28 2017, 20:25
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QUOTE(kuriak @ Jul 28 2017, 20:18) *

someone tell me about Orbital Friendship Cannon
- is it worth
- is it magic damage or physical damage
- which is strong ones Flames of Loki or Orbital Friendship Cannon

- yes
- physical void
- guess OFC, if casted under the right circumstances. for example, spirit stance and heartseeker on. btw, mages cannot use OFC, since they don't generate OC usually
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post Jul 28 2017, 20:45
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QUOTE(kuriak @ Jul 28 2017, 20:18) *

- which is strong ones Flames of Loki or Orbital Friendship Cannon

OFC is much stronger than any T3 spell.
OFC with spirit stance and heartseeker it's stronger than T3 + Arcane Focus + Imperil.
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post Jul 28 2017, 21:03
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QUOTE(kuriak @ Jul 28 2017, 21:18) *

someone tell me about Orbital Friendship Cannon
- is it worth
- is it magic damage or physical damage
- which is strong ones Flames of Loki or Orbital Friendship Cannon


As others have said, if you're playing a melee build, OFC is crucial.

Ideally, you'd be able to cast OFC once every 3-4 rounds (while using Heartseeker + SS) to instantly one-shot all monsters. A critical hit from an OFC is enough to one-shot even boss-class monsters like ManBearPig.
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post Jul 28 2017, 21:30
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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jul 29 2017, 01:25) *

- yes
- physical void
- guess OFC, if casted under the right circumstances. for example, spirit stance and heartseeker on. btw, mages cannot use OFC, since they don't generate OC usually



QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Jul 29 2017, 01:45) *

OFC is much stronger than any T3 spell.
OFC with spirit stance and heartseeker it's stronger than T3 + Arcane Focus + Imperil.



QUOTE(friggo @ Jul 29 2017, 02:03) *

As others have said, if you're playing a melee build, OFC is crucial.

Ideally, you'd be able to cast OFC once every 3-4 rounds (while using Heartseeker + SS) to instantly one-shot all monsters. A critical hit from an OFC is enough to one-shot even boss-class monsters like ManBearPig.


I didn't know that (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

oh..I forget is it use MP

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post Jul 28 2017, 21:36
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QUOTE(friggo @ Jul 28 2017, 21:03) *

As others have said, if you're playing a melee build, OFC is crucial.

Ideally, you'd be able to cast OFC once every 3-4 rounds (while using Heartseeker + SS) to instantly one-shot all monsters. A critical hit from an OFC is enough to one-shot even boss-class monsters like ManBearPig.


I managed to one shoot an imperiled schoolgirl on Hard difficulty today, with crit+heartseeker. And it wasn't Konata. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

Though it's still far-fetched to say one-shot all monsters. A few of them tend to tank OFC when non-imperiled in PFUDOR difficulty, if the rolls are in their favor. Still totally worth it though, that skill clearly boosted the speed at which I clear PFUDOR DwD.
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post Jul 28 2017, 21:40
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QUOTE(kuriak @ Jul 28 2017, 16:30) *

oh..I forget is it use MP


no, 80% of your SP

Edit: Yes, OC, sorry n_n!

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post Jul 28 2017, 21:51
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QUOTE(lololo16 @ Jul 28 2017, 21:40) *

no, 80% of your SP

OC.
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post Jul 28 2017, 22:07
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Jul 28 2017, 21:36) *

Though it's still far-fetched to say one-shot all monsters. A few of them tend to tank OFC when non-imperiled in PFUDOR difficulty, if the rolls are in their favor.

It also depends on the build, Æsahættr + fully forged weapon + full slaughter one-shot all monsters most of the times.
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post Jul 28 2017, 22:24
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Jul 28 2017, 13:07) *

It also depends on the build, Æsahættr + fully forged weapon + full slaughter one-shot all monsters most of the times.


don't forget the manehatten project perk
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post Jul 28 2017, 23:12
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I have this wakizashi (which I use together with this katana) What base stats do I need to upgrade the most?


90% Domino Strike on hit
100% Offhand Strike on hit

4978 attack base damage
176.9 % hit chance
47.5% crit chance / +58 % damage

49.2% parry chance
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post Jul 28 2017, 23:53
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QUOTE(lololo16 @ Jul 29 2017, 04:12) *

I have this wakizashi (which I use together with this katana) What base stats do I need to upgrade the most?
90% Domino Strike on hit
100% Offhand Strike on hit

4978 attack base damage
176.9 % hit chance
47.5% crit chance / +58 % damage

49.2% parry chance


IW "Overpower" = Counter-Parry (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) also maybe Crit-chance
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post Jul 29 2017, 00:29
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QUOTE(lololo16 @ Jul 28 2017, 23:12) *

I have this wakizashi (which I use together with this katana) What base stats do I need to upgrade the most?
90% Domino Strike on hit
100% Offhand Strike on hit

4978 attack base damage
176.9 % hit chance
47.5% crit chance / +58 % damage

49.2% parry chance


Stupid answer: all of them.

Jokes appart, if we're talking about the IW potencies, everyone his own style. Mine would favor Overpower 5 and Fatality 4. If you want an order of preference for the forge levels, I'd go for the crit and parry first. Oh, and you wasted materials on the accuracy: no need to boost the accuracy to reach 100% offhand strike with a Balance.
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post Jul 29 2017, 00:35
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QUOTE(lololo16 @ Jul 28 2017, 23:12) *

I have this wakizashi (which I use together with this katana) What base stats do I need to upgrade the most?
90% Domino Strike on hit
100% Offhand Strike on hit

4978 attack base damage
176.9 % hit chance
47.5% crit chance / +58 % damage

49.2% parry chance

IW: mainhand: whatever combo of butcher, fatality and overpower.
offhand: overpower and fatality preferred. but don't lose your sleep for a couple levels of butcher or swift.

forge: mainhand: ADB, crit, PABs. you can skip AGI though - since it'll have a better ROI on waki.
offhand: crit, parry, PABs. you can skip STR though - since it'll have a better ROI on katana.


nice katana, btw.
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post Jul 29 2017, 00:52
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QUOTE(SidZBear @ Jul 28 2017, 22:24) *

don't forget the manehatten project perk

Well, I cannot test its effect, 25k hath for a boost to OFC doesn't sound that good of a deal (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif)
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post Jul 29 2017, 03:32
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QUOTE(Chronos0510 @ Jul 28 2017, 18:53) *

IW "Overpower" = Counter-Parry (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) also maybe Crit-chance

QUOTE(decondelite @ Jul 28 2017, 19:29) *

Stupid answer: all of them.

Jokes appart, if we're talking about the IW potencies, everyone his own style. Mine would favor Overpower 5 and Fatality 4.

QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jul 28 2017, 19:35) *

offhand: overpower and fatality preferred. but don't lose your sleep for a couple levels of butcher or swift.


I was talking about forging, but is good to know the opinion of you guys about the IW potencies. I wanted those potencies too, but I don't have enough shards (and credits) so I'll keep those for the time being :/


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Oh, and you wasted materials on the accuracy: no need to boost the accuracy to reach 100% offhand strike with a Balance.


(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) I'll try to remember that when I get a new one. Then I don't need to upgrade at all that stats? Neither in my katana? @Scremaz didn't mention accuracy when he was talking about it


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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jul 28 2017, 19:35) *

IW: mainhand: whatever combo of butcher, fatality and overpower.

forge: mainhand: ADB, crit, PABs. you can skip AGI though - since it'll have a better ROI on waki.
offhand: crit, parry, PABs. you can skip STR though - since it'll have a better ROI on katana.
nice katana, btw.


Another 2 butcher and 5 overpower would be good in my katana... I don't think I'll invest more (I have another 2 BoS, though) in that katana, since I don't want to fuse with it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

First crit and parry in my waki, because I use it for DW too. PABs... I don't know, I think I have a some cheetah and Ox.

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post Jul 29 2017, 05:59
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There are two topics that I have questions about. Advice is much appreciated and thanks in advance.

Is there a method to see a maxed potency equipment's pxp from when it was at potency tier 0? On the same topic, what ways are there to compare overall stats between items of identical quality besides pxp at tier 0?

Something I have noticed is how low the interference is on bucklers compared to the other shields. From a utilitarian perspective, does the mana conservation from bucklers scale better in the long run or do the extra block and mitigation bonuses from kite shields and force shields completely offset this? For more information, I am using a tank build with all shield gear of protection/warding but I feel like my healing/protection spells will become too expensive if everything becomes high interference. However, it doesn't seem to fit the tank image by only using a buckler. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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