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post Jul 27 2017, 18:34
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QUOTE(kun110 @ Jul 27 2017, 15:28) *

Can someone give me these items? I tried it and it worked with protection, causing my blood to slow down a lot. But my items are few and out of use. I find that these items are not found. Can someone donate to me?

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Unfortunately, everyone uses these scrolls. That's why you don't find them anywhere.
As yami_zetsu said, you should rather get better equipment and fine-tune your playstyle+stats instead of trying to find scrolls at all costs. If you're playing at a difficulty higher than Hard, then tone done your difficulty setting.

A clever way to use scrolls is to resort to them when that is the only way to achieve something that you couldn't otherwise. Or at least when your overall scroll usage is reasonable compared to those that you loot.

QUOTE(ALL_MIGHT @ Jul 27 2017, 18:25) *

Need Guidance From Grand-masters.
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Which is more Profitable.?
1.Selling Artifacts in WTB.
OR
2. Shrine all the artifacts and then Sell The drops In WTB.
?
(Target:- which will be better to attain 50m credts.)


If you want to gain bonus stats on your character, shrine and then sell the energy drinks.
If you don't care about your extra stats, just sell the artifacts.

Regarding artifacts, I have a question myself: once our bonus stats reached the maximum, how does RNG work? Does it roll again or is there another drop used by default? If it is the first option, then it means that I could slightly increase the likelihood to get energy drinks.

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post Jul 27 2017, 18:49
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Jul 27 2017, 18:34) *

Regarding artifacts, I have a question myself: once our bonus stats reached the maximum, how does RNG work? Does it roll again or is there another drop used by default? If it is the first option, then it means that I could slightly increase the likelihood to get energy drinks.


basically, the other likelyhoods increase. But never above 20% ED. Yay, more crystals!
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post Jul 27 2017, 18:51
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Frankly, 20% chance instead of 15% is totally worth it. Especially if the likelihood of getting the (useless) last elixirs doesn't raise. More cristals too, yes... at least they do have a purpose.
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post Jul 27 2017, 19:17
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QUOTE(ALL_MIGHT @ Jul 27 2017, 09:25) *

Need Guidance From Grand-masters.
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Which is more Profitable.?
1.Selling Artifacts in WTB.
OR
2. Shrine all the artifacts and then Sell The drops In WTB.
?
(Target:- which will be better to attain 50m credts.)



Selling is more profitable, to the tune of about 15%. But as others have said, you lose out on free PAB by not shrining yourself to max.

Quick napkin math says... 2100 artifacts for 50m, selling directly, 2600 for 50m worth of energy drinks (rounding involved)
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post Jul 27 2017, 19:30
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QUOTE(SidZBear @ Jul 27 2017, 20:17) *

Selling is more profitable, to the tune of about 15%. But as others have said, you lose out on free PAB by not shrining yourself to max.

Quick napkin math says... 2100 artifacts for 50m, selling directly, 2600 for 50m worth of energy drinks (rounding involved)


You're forgetting crystals and hath.

Current market prices for WTB are 35k for a pack, 22.5k for an artifact, 105k for ED, and 4k for hath ( (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) ).

So, if you had a 1000 artifacts:

Selling them: 22.5m
Shrining them (assuming ~20% turn into PABs): ~19m (from selling all the hath, EDs and crystal packs)

So the difference isn't THAT massive.
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post Jul 27 2017, 19:38
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QUOTE(friggo @ Jul 27 2017, 10:30) *

You're forgetting crystals and hath.

Current market prices for WTB are 35k for a pack, 22.5k for an artifact, 105k for ED, and 4k for hath ( (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) ).

So, if you had a 1000 artifacts:

Selling them: 22.5m
Shrining them (assuming ~20% turn into PABs): ~19m (from selling all the hath, EDs and crystal packs)

So the difference isn't THAT massive.



I was ignoring hath and crystals though. Also underestimating EDs (I used 1 per 5.5).

Like I said, napkin math ^.^
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post Jul 27 2017, 20:07
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is imperil good for 2H style??
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post Jul 27 2017, 20:12
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QUOTE(ALL_MIGHT @ Jul 27 2017, 13:25) *

Need Guidance From Grand-masters.
(IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
Which is more Profitable.?
1.Selling Artifacts in WTB.
OR
2. Shrine all the artifacts and then Sell The drops In WTB.
?
(Target:- which will be better to attain 50m credts.)


Selling.

QUOTE(friggo @ Jul 27 2017, 14:30) *

You're forgetting crystals and hath.

Current market prices for WTB are 35k for a pack, 22.5k for an artifact, 105k for ED, and 4k for hath ( (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) ).

So, if you had a 1000 artifacts:

Selling them: 22.5m
Shrining them (assuming ~20% turn into PABs): ~19m (from selling all the hath, EDs and crystal packs)

So the difference isn't THAT massive.


The biggest problem with this is to rely on luck. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

And if the person does not have any (or very few) primary attribute points, you can be sure that there will be more than 20% in 1000 artifacts (which would reduce the gains). See for example your case. In 700 artifacts you had almost 30% of PAB.

Another thing that always gets in the way is that most people almost always get more Last Elixir than Energy Drink. Also, if the person is unlucky (like me (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) ), you will not be able to join many crystal packs, as you will always get very unequal amounts among the 12 types of crystals.

QUOTE(Chronos0510 @ Jul 27 2017, 15:07) *

is imperil good for 2H style??


It's good for all styles.

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post Jul 27 2017, 20:17
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Another thing that always gets in the way is that most people almost always get more Last Elixir than Energy Drink. Also, if the person is unlucky (like me (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) ), you will not be able to join many crystal packs, as you will always get very unequal amounts among the 12 types of crystals.



This is why I only sell loose crystals, and not packs.
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post Jul 27 2017, 20:25
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QUOTE(Chronos0510 @ Jul 27 2017, 20:07) *

is imperil good for 2H style??


In the general gameplay, no. But as for all playstyles, Imperil is mostly useful to kill SGs in the 3 last arenas (or the last round of other arenas). In the case of 2H, one will simply Imperil the SGs than hover straight on them to deal max damage on them, and leave the splash damage of domino strike kill all the regular mobs.

You may want to try Rending Blow against the SGs BTW, if your weapon is not an estoc.

If you're considering using Imperil in the general gameplay, then it simply means that you don't deal enough damage with your equipment. 2H works well with Power Armor.
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post Jul 27 2017, 20:49
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QUOTE(Basara Nekki @ Jul 28 2017, 01:12) *

It's good for all styles.


I've never had a chance to use it (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) even for a boss

QUOTE(decondelite @ Jul 28 2017, 01:25) *

In the general gameplay, no. But as for all playstyles, Imperil is mostly useful to kill SGs in the 3 last arenas (or the last round of other arenas). In the case of 2H, one will simply Imperil the SGs than hover straight on them to deal max damage on them, and leave the splash damage of domino strike kill all the regular mobs.

You may want to try Rending Blow against the SGs BTW, if your weapon is not an estoc.

If you're considering using Imperil in the general gameplay, then it simply means that you don't deal enough damage with your equipment. 2H works well with Power Armor.


I used power armor once, and turn to be slow. now I'm used leather armor, it's fast. even mob never had a chance for gathering mana and spirit, just normal attack. I tested it in arena lvl 200 on nightmare

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post Jul 27 2017, 21:18
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Who cares if you're slow while using power armor? The point of Power Armor is to deal massive damage while tanking, not to evade nor to have attack speed! If you've got a lot of Agility while playing with Power Armor, you're definitely doing something wrong.
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post Jul 27 2017, 21:21
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Jul 27 2017, 21:18) *

If you've got a lot of Agility while playing with Power Armor, you're definitely doing something wrong.

or you just prefer to use all melee styles with only one persona. just saying.
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post Jul 27 2017, 22:15
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Jul 28 2017, 02:18) *

Who cares if you're slow while using power armor? The point of Power Armor is to deal massive damage while tanking, not to evade nor to have attack speed! If you've got a lot of Agility while playing with Power Armor, you're definitely doing something wrong.


QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jul 28 2017, 02:21) *

or you just prefer to use all melee styles with only one persona. just saying.


I know, right now I just don't know.
- I like arcanist but they are rare.
- I changed to 2H because I got Legendary Weapon
- I don't have cuirass armor (what I got 4 power helmet and others 2)
- I used a lot mana draught only. for sustained spells.
- Spammed spirit stance.

so I build Attacker "mage like". I cast sleep or confuse when enemy more than 6.
for boss I use weaken. I don't even need cure as long I've regen.

for grinding maybe?

note: how do you see my stats (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) I can't see someone stats?

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post Jul 27 2017, 22:33
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note: how do you see my stats (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) I can't see someone stats?


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No, actually you'll need to post your stats so we can see it. That's the trick - the stats get posted.
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post Jul 27 2017, 22:37
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QUOTE(Chronos0510 @ Jul 27 2017, 17:15) *

I know, right now I just don't know.
- I like arcanist but they are rare.


I will be selling these cute leggings soon (Mmax). Most of the people don't like arcanist, but I have almost a full set (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Jul 27 2017, 23:23
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QUOTE(lololo16 @ Jul 28 2017, 03:37) *

I will be selling these cute leggings soon (Mmax). Most of the people don't like arcanist, but I have almost a full set (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


I just buy some hath. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)

I must sell all (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) my Equipment

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post Jul 28 2017, 00:04
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QUOTE(Chronos0510 @ Jul 27 2017, 18:23) *

I just buy a hath. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)
I must sell all (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) my Equipment


I think it's better if you save your credits and get cheap or free stuff in the wts forum for the time being. I have some things in my shop (also take a look at decondelite's). No need to rush.
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post Jul 28 2017, 00:35
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QUOTE(Chronos0510 @ Jul 27 2017, 22:15) *

I know, right now I just don't know.
- I like arcanist but they are rare.
- I changed to 2H because I got Legendary Weapon
- I don't have cuirass armor (what I got 4 power helmet and others 2)
- I used a lot mana draught only. for sustained spells.
- Spammed spirit stance.

so I build Attacker "mage like". I cast sleep or confuse when enemy more than 6.
for boss I use weaken. I don't even need cure as long I've regen.

for grinding maybe?

note: how do you see my stats (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) I can't see someone stats?


Why do you bother with deprecating spells if you don't need to use Cure? Of course you will run out of mana if you spam them like a psycho, Arcanist or not! While Sleep can be very useful, Confuse is just a waste of time and mana.

Maybe you've set your difficulty too high aswell?

PS:
I remember gianfrix also selling mid-level stuff aswell. Where has he gone?

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post Jul 28 2017, 00:40
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Jul 28 2017, 00:35) *

I remember gianfrix also selling mid-level stuff aswell. Where has he gone?

busy with RL, last time i heard about him. also, iirc a couple of months ago i saw a mod report filled by him so somehow he still lurks here ever now and then
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