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post Dec 5 2011, 01:54
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Anything is possible. But it is really unlikely as things stand right now
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post Dec 5 2011, 02:07
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QUOTE(skillchip @ Dec 5 2011, 01:54) *

Anything is possible.

i don think so but just my opinion.
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post Dec 5 2011, 02:24
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There are a lot of things that rely on luck in this game. If you dodge everything that comes at you, you could finish anything on any difficulty (even with bare-fists) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Dec 5 2011, 02:27
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QUOTE(dcherry @ Dec 5 2011, 02:24) *

There are a lot of things that rely on luck in this game. If you dodge everything that comes at you, you could finish anything on any difficulty (even with bare-fists) (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

if so lucky, go play lottery no need to play (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

so no melee finish all arenas on bt/iwbth without mace? only mage?

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post Dec 5 2011, 02:56
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If it's normal Arenas we're talking about, I'm pretty sure anyone can complete them on IWBTH with enough patience and planning.
Legendary Arenas, now that's another story.

IIRC hitokiri84 cleared everything on IWBTH as a mage, Sushilicious did the same but I don't know what he was using.
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post Dec 5 2011, 02:59
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At the moment I am able to clear everything below Schoolgirl Runs on BT. I CAN clear them on IWBTH but that would take me quite a lot of time and I am just way too lazy for that since I am not a mage.
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post Dec 5 2011, 03:00
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QUOTE((Cheater) Tiap @ Dec 5 2011, 02:56) *

If it's normal Arenas we're talking about, I'm pretty sure anyone can complete them on IWBTH with enough patience and planning.
Legendary Arenas, now that's another story.

IIRC hitokiri84 cleared everything on IWBTH as a mage, Sushilicious did the same but I don't know what he was using.

u sure that possible with no mace? i just talk about normal arenas for now.
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post Dec 5 2011, 03:01
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QUOTE(MiAla @ Dec 5 2011, 02:59) *

At the moment I am able to clear everything below Schoolgirl Runs on BT. I CAN clear them on IWBTH but that would take me quite a lot of time and I am just way too lazy for that since I am not a mage.

you miss very key point. Without Mace. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Dec 5 2011, 07:27
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how do i use Auto-cast slot.

I recently activated my first Innate Arcana slot and when i go in setting to check my slot . he show you don't have any auto-cast slot.
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post Dec 5 2011, 07:34
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Usually takes up to an hour for Hath Perks to kick in after activating them, IIRC.
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post Dec 5 2011, 08:38
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I just discovered the item world O_o

I was wondering if anyone could give me some more details.

I want to know the difference between 100 rounds of grindfest and 100 rounds in an item.
My thoughts:
-1Stamina in item vs 5Stamina in Grindfest
-0 Credits in item but equal chance of equipment and artifacts as in Grindfest?

Questions:
Difficulty? is round 100 of the item going to be the same difficulty as a round 100 in grindfest? (never been that high)

Reason for doing itemworld: Besides leveling up your epic gear is there a reason to do the item world, is it a decent substitute to grindfest or crysfest?
What governs your choice between grind, crysfest or itemworld?


Stamina + Itemworld related: This is a tricky question (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
Okay, so 100 rounds sounds like it would take many hours to complete, according to the wiki you only regen 20 stamina per day. (20 Stamina / 24 hours = 0.8333 per hour, but you dont regen stamina during battle)

If I woke up (lets say 7am), started my itemworld did the first 30 or so rounds then went to work for the day when I get home at 5pm and continue from round 30 and it takes me until 8pm that night to finish...

I have spent 13 hours in the itemworld, does that mean I miss out on my 13 * 0.8333 stamina?

So i only get 9.166 stamina refunded that day?

Or will it refund me the full 20 in a condensed time frame?

Or does it refund the full 20 every day at the HentaiVerse Dawn?

Minor question:
You get an exp bonus for spamming, I mean posting on the forums right?
How do I know if my bonus is active or when it runs out?

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post Dec 5 2011, 08:44
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http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Item_World
http://ehwiki.org/wiki/EXP
http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Stamina
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post Dec 5 2011, 09:00
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Thanks Maximum_Joe, the personal effort you have invested to help me is awe-inspiring! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
I have read these, but may not completely understand them. Would someone check my interpretations?

http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Item_World
"Experience gained is significantly higher than the equivalent difficulty Grindfest"

It means my battle difficulty right? Hard, Nightmare, Battletoads etc?
Then that gets multiplied by the item quality?
http://ehwiki.org/wiki/EXP
"Posting in the forums 10% per post 100% 24 hours (takes 1 to activate) [1]"
[1]:"It counts posts made the last 86400 seconds, but it caches the result for an hour."

Doesn't tell me if there an easy way to check my bonus status.
Am I supposed to look at my latest post time, add 1 hour for caching and then add 24hours to estimate my expected duration?
http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Stamina
"Recovering Stamina
Stamina is restored at a base rate of 20 per day."

Doesn't answer my question in its entirety I am afraid.
"I have spent 13 hours in the itemworld, does that mean I miss out on my 13 * 0.8333 stamina?

So i only get 9.166 stamina refunded that day?

Or will it refund me the full 20 in a condensed time frame?

Or does it refund the full 20 every day at the HentaiVerse Dawn?"

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post Dec 5 2011, 09:10
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QUOTE(Zip @ Dec 4 2011, 23:00) *

Thanks Maximum_Joe, the personal effort you have invested to help me is awe-inspiring! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Well, considering I wrote half of the articles... (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
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It means my battle difficulty right? Hard, Nightmare, Battletoads etc?

Yes. Not sure how else anyone could interpret that.
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Then that gets multiplied by the item quality?

"Multiplied" is a bit of an overstatement, the exact numbers are not known.
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Doesn't tell me if there an easy way to check my bonus status.

That's because there isn't one.
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Am I supposed to look at my latest post time, add 1 hour for caching and then add 24hours to estimate my expected duration?

Pretty much, yeah.
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I have spent 13 hours in the itemworld, does that mean I miss out on my 13 * 0.8333 stamina?

http://ehwiki.org/wiki/Stamina#Recovering_Stamina
"Stamina does NOT regenerate while in a battle. However, when you clear an Arena / Ring of Blood, stamina will be reimbursed according to how much time you have spent in them."

So yes. Now don't go spending 13 hours in IW! (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Dec 5 2011, 09:46
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Some corrections/additions from me:

1. "Experience gained is significantly higher than the equivalent difficulty Grindfest"
It's written a long time ago.
Right now Grindfest should give more experience in most cases. (except for some pre-nerf equipments)

reference: 0.6.0 patch note

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- The stamina drain in the Grindfest was increased, but it now gives the normal amount of EXP.


2. There's no direct evidence that item quality is multiplied to normal amount of exp to get the exp you will gain from a particular item world, but...

Various uotes from Tenb

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- The difficulty and experience gained depends on the power (quality rating) of your item . So a magnificent item will have significantly harder mobs than a crude one. Like in the Grindfest, monster damage starts at 50% base and increases by 1% per round.


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1.225, actually. And no, but Tens has an axe with 1.1708 quality, which seems to be the second highest in existence. Keep in mind that this was before the loot system changed, but it will still use the quality factor directly for the Item World , thus making it the hardest possible.


Makes me feel that it should be the correct assumption.
In fact, with what skillchip and I have found about base rolls, we should be able to find the quality of an item in an easy way.
And if you feel that IW gives about the same amount of exp as arenas/grindfests, it's because the current quality for fine or above items is at least 0.64.
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post Dec 5 2011, 09:57
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I'm going to do some checking here soon to see how the quality score we can calculate affects exp gains
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post Dec 5 2011, 10:06
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Does the Shadow Veil tank really work?
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post Dec 5 2011, 10:10
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Yes, it works. The effects aren't all that noticeable if your evasion is low to begin with.
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post Dec 5 2011, 10:14
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QUOTE(DragonRanger @ Dec 5 2011, 16:10) *

Yes, it works. The effects aren't all that noticeable if your evasion is low to begin with.


How do I improve my evasion? With my current setup (light armor kelvar/shade + scythe), it stands at 13.4%
Do my char stats play a part?

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post Dec 5 2011, 10:28
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Agi increases evasion and action speed. Lots of mages/light armor melee rank it as a top 3 attribute
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