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Jul 25 2017, 12:48
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Ass Spanker
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Jul 25 2017, 11:17)  Can I be explained why one would go to GF if he doesn't have Crystarium V?
Test one's strength and build, then feel the despair
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Jul 25 2017, 13:45
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Fap.Fap
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(Nanoha_Prayer @ Jul 25 2017, 11:28)  No,1H player can do higher difficulty earlier than mage,I finished my first GF-PF as a 1H-style around LV380,and now with mage style I need flee before round 550. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) I really wonder how people can do that so easily.. I still cant finish a PF fest with my 1H even to the half. QUOTE(manga522 @ Jul 25 2017, 12:40)  thanks for sharing the experience such expected the answer is less 1 hour (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif) i had a discussion with another grandmaster to arguments the melee and mage things i was feel myself inferior but not anymore long way to go keep fight forward (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) you are pretty good, if you can finish a IBWTH fest with the current equipment you have, I would think its not possible witht that. This post has been edited by Fap.Fap: Jul 25 2017, 13:46
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Jul 25 2017, 16:19
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CPUAMD
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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Joined: 24-April 15

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[attachembed=106042] (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) It is still very difficult, Need more upgrades?
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Jul 25 2017, 17:14
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Noni
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Jul 25 2017, 12:03)  Or @PFUDOR, difference in speed is minimal. A good mage can go much lower @IWBTH, probably around 35-40m?
Only the lv500 uber-mages. I can reach 1hr 5 min now on PFUDOR. Oh wait, IWBTH - yeah, you're probably right. QUOTE(Goldage @ Jul 25 2017, 16:19)  [attachembed=106042] (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) It is still very difficult, Need more upgrades? Or just use vase or gum for last 200 rounds. Is that on PFUDOR?
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Jul 25 2017, 17:38
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CPUAMD
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Jul 26 2017, 00:14)  Or just use vase or gum for last 200 rounds. Is that on PFUDOR?
Yes..
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Jul 25 2017, 17:56
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friggo
Group: Gold Star Club
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With all this discussion on 1H melee on PFUDORfest, I gave it a shot as well. Basically, I think Sapo84 is right: a fully-forged slaughter set + Æsahættr should be able to clear the 1h30m mark (but probably not by too much). Here's the result (the gear I used is linked in my sig): 
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Jul 25 2017, 18:11
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kun110
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I'm sorry to have done this. // But my credit is very small. I do not understand many things. I bought the item at a high price and I can not use it because of Lv. Enough to sell but very cheap Can anyone give me credit or give me a weapon? Or something with me Thank you for your kindness  (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)
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Jul 25 2017, 18:12
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Fap.Fap
Group: Gold Star Club
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am I the only one, or are others also running out of Monster Chow ? ( maybe Iam not playing enough anymore ) since a Hellfest or some other quick Hell runs are no longer a option, since they need basically the same time as if you would run it in Pfudor I really have some problems with getting enough Chow for my under lvl 251 monsters ( iam even raising their levels now )
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Jul 25 2017, 18:22
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Cleavs
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QUOTE(kun110 @ Jul 25 2017, 18:11)  I'm sorry to have done this. // But my credit is very small. I do not understand many things. I bought the item at a high price and I can not use it because of Lv. Enough to sell but very cheap Can anyone give me credit or give me a weapon? Or something with me Thank you for your kindness  (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) if your topics disappeared these days, they did for a reason. please avoid open so many new open ones: if you have questions, feel free to ask here. if you want to chat or discuss, there are other topics. if you need restoratives, there are many shops which can give you potions for free. otherwise, try to reach lv100 (your build should be decent enough) and ask to sweetness overload's giveaway for free credits. but pretty much everyone started from scratch, with little credits and little knowledge. btw, you have an answer in that Thai thread.
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Jul 25 2017, 23:31
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Ser6IjVolk
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This one is much more out of curiosity simply because I can't afford it in practicality: seeing how the prices on Repurposed Actuators are what they are (~65k), which stats are worth upgrading and at what point short of your top legend/peerless forever-equipment at lvl 500?
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Jul 26 2017, 01:00
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Ass Spanker
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 25-July 12

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QUOTE(Fap.Fap @ Jul 25 2017, 18:12)  am I the only one, or are others also running out of Monster Chow ? ( maybe Iam not playing enough anymore ) since a Hellfest or some other quick Hell runs are no longer a option, since they need basically the same time as if you would run it in Pfudor I really have some problems with getting enough Chow for my under lvl 251 monsters ( iam even raising their levels now )
How many monsters do you have? I have no problem with 50 monsters at PL 25. Actually I think I have too much food for the monsters.
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Jul 26 2017, 06:37
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manga522
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QUOTE(friggo @ Jul 25 2017, 23:56)  With all this discussion on 1H melee on PFUDORfest, I gave it a shot as well. Basically, I think Sapo84 is right: a fully-forged slaughter set + Æsahættr should be able to clear the 1h30m mark (but probably not by too much). Here's the result (the gear I used is linked in my sig):  that just great full of information (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) may i ask during the battle sequence did you tactically use the pony cannon to wipe the mobs ?
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Jul 26 2017, 06:40
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friggo
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(manga522 @ Jul 26 2017, 07:37)  that just great full of information (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) may i ask during the battle sequence did you tactically use the pony cannon to wipe the mobs ? Of course (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) Using the pony cannon basically means you can one-shot every 3rd or 4th round. Without it, the grindfest would've taken at least 30 minutes longer I think.
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Jul 26 2017, 07:57
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goldenshower
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I saw WTS forum, some player offering free draught. One thread mentioned their stock 50k bottles or something. I know grindfest and arena dropping this but how do you get so many?
Is it by training Scavenger? I'm currently at 10/50. When it start giving surplus?
Playing as dual wielding, 50% parry at Nintendo difficulty.
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Jul 26 2017, 08:32
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lololo16
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QUOTE(goldenshower @ Jul 26 2017, 02:57)  I saw WTS forum, some player offering free draught. One thread mentioned their stock 50k bottles or something. I know grindfest and arena dropping this but how do you get so many?
Is it by training Scavenger? I'm currently at 10/50. When it start giving surplus?
Playing as dual wielding, 50% parry at Nintendo difficulty.
First you need to take all the free draught and potions out there. Then Play on lower difficulty until level 200 (maybe?). I had like 1200 H draught and 800 M draught when I reached level 200 (normal difficulty until then (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) ). Now I have around 7k and 6k, respectively. I think those numbers are normal for high level players This post has been edited by lololo16: Jul 26 2017, 08:33
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Jul 26 2017, 10:38
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KitsuneAbby
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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Joined: 12-July 14

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QUOTE(goldenshower @ Jul 26 2017, 07:57)  I saw WTS forum, some player offering free draught. One thread mentioned their stock 50k bottles or something. I know grindfest and arena dropping this but how do you get so many?
Is it by training Scavenger? I'm currently at 10/50. When it start giving surplus?
Playing as dual wielding, 50% parry at Nintendo difficulty.
Actually, Scavenger doesn't have that much of an influence. The monster's PL they're facing does: https://ehwiki.org/wiki/Loot_Drop_Rolls#Inc...ed_Drop_ChancesAside from this, they're also facing many, many more monsters than you do, and they probably don't use as many draughts as you do.
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Jul 26 2017, 10:53
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Sapo84
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Jul 26 2017, 10:38)  don't use as many draughts as you do.
I wouldn't be so sure, apart from SG arenas (where I skip health draughts unless 3 SGs are in the field) I'm always using draughts. The fact is that for mages draughts drop faster than they can use them (apart from SP draughts), so it's very easy to have thousands unused draughts around. Melee usually use even less draughts so the difference is even bigger (but most grinders go mage so I'm pretty sure most of the draughts come from mages)
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Jul 26 2017, 14:28
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KitsuneAbby
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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Interesting. It's true that I tend to sink draughts like hell when playing mage, but I thought that with gear better than mine they wouldn't be necessary anymore. The rule about monsters PL remains true though.
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Jul 26 2017, 16:49
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Ass Spanker
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 25-July 12

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QUOTE(lololo16 @ Jul 26 2017, 08:32)  First you need to take all the free draught and potions out there. Then Play on lower difficulty until level 200 (maybe?). I had like 1200 H draught and 800 M draught when I reached level 200 (normal difficulty until then (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) ). Now I have around 7k and 6k, respectively. I think those numbers are normal for high level players Draughts are dirt cheap. I bought 30k at a time and buy more when I run out (at 5k). But it has been several months and I still have 20k hp, 8k mp and 36k sp left.
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