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Jul 25 2017, 11:04
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manga522
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Jul 25 2017, 16:44)  With a round you mean a full GF? I'd say the time is pretty good given your equipment. 1H for a full GF is impossible, hard cap is around 1h30m (possibly a bit lower if you have fully forged + Æsahættr at around level 400).
yes i mean a full GF@IWBTH ( i started it for 4 days ,3 rounds a day ,i want to level up ) so top class one-hand player is need 1h30m to clear a round GF@IWBTH ? that's impossible or it just based my character and equips (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) if not is this means only mage player can do the GF@PFUDOR but melee does not even the top class ?
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Jul 25 2017, 11:17
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KitsuneAbby
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 7,572
Joined: 12-July 14

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Can I be explained why one would go to GF if he doesn't have Crystarium V?
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Jul 25 2017, 11:28
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Kira.Yoshikage
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 687
Joined: 25-July 09

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QUOTE(decondelite @ Jul 25 2017, 05:17)  Can I be explained why one would go to GF if he doesn't have Crystarium V?
nothing else to do (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) QUOTE(manga522 @ Jul 25 2017, 05:04)  only mage player can do the GF@PFUDOR but melee does not even the top class ?
No,1H player can do higher difficulty earlier than mage,I finished my first GF-PF as a 1H-style around LV380,and now with mage style I need flee before round 550. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) This post has been edited by Nanoha_Prayer: Jul 25 2017, 11:42
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Jul 25 2017, 11:30
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friggo
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 2,134
Joined: 9-October 14

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QUOTE(Nanoha_Prayer @ Jul 25 2017, 12:28)  nothing else to do (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Yup. Once you've done all the daily arenas, what else is there? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Besides, he said the reason in his post: QUOTE(manga522 @ Jul 25 2017, 12:04)  i want to level up
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Jul 25 2017, 11:54
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manga522
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 517
Joined: 2-January 17

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QUOTE(Nanoha_Prayer @ Jul 25 2017, 17:28)  nothing else to do (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) No,1H player can do higher difficulty earlier than mage,I finished my first GF-PF as a 1H-style around LV380,and now with mage style I need flee before round 550. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) yes thats right i will keep learning and fighting until i break my limit (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) i haven't clear the GF@PF becaus i am unprepared for the hardcore running
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Jul 25 2017, 12:03
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Sapo84
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(manga522 @ Jul 25 2017, 11:04)  so top class one-hand player is need 1h30m to clear a round GF@IWBTH ?
Or @PFUDOR, difference in speed is minimal. A good mage can go much lower @IWBTH, probably around 35-40m?
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Jul 25 2017, 12:40
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manga522
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 517
Joined: 2-January 17

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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Jul 25 2017, 18:03)  Or @PFUDOR, difference in speed is minimal. A good mage can go much lower @IWBTH, probably around 35-40m?
thanks for sharing the experience such expected the answer is less 1 hour (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif) i had a discussion with another grandmaster to arguments the melee and mage things i was feel myself inferior but not anymore long way to go keep fight forward (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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Jul 25 2017, 12:48
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Ass Spanker
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Jul 25 2017, 11:17)  Can I be explained why one would go to GF if he doesn't have Crystarium V?
Test one's strength and build, then feel the despair
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Jul 25 2017, 13:45
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Fap.Fap
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 1,554
Joined: 19-October 11

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QUOTE(Nanoha_Prayer @ Jul 25 2017, 11:28)  No,1H player can do higher difficulty earlier than mage,I finished my first GF-PF as a 1H-style around LV380,and now with mage style I need flee before round 550. (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) I really wonder how people can do that so easily.. I still cant finish a PF fest with my 1H even to the half. QUOTE(manga522 @ Jul 25 2017, 12:40)  thanks for sharing the experience such expected the answer is less 1 hour (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/faint.gif) i had a discussion with another grandmaster to arguments the melee and mage things i was feel myself inferior but not anymore long way to go keep fight forward (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) you are pretty good, if you can finish a IBWTH fest with the current equipment you have, I would think its not possible witht that. This post has been edited by Fap.Fap: Jul 25 2017, 13:46
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Jul 25 2017, 16:19
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CPUAMD
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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Joined: 24-April 15

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[attachembed=106042] (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) It is still very difficult, Need more upgrades?
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Jul 25 2017, 17:14
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Noni
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
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QUOTE(Sapo84 @ Jul 25 2017, 12:03)  Or @PFUDOR, difference in speed is minimal. A good mage can go much lower @IWBTH, probably around 35-40m?
Only the lv500 uber-mages. I can reach 1hr 5 min now on PFUDOR. Oh wait, IWBTH - yeah, you're probably right. QUOTE(Goldage @ Jul 25 2017, 16:19)  [attachembed=106042] (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) It is still very difficult, Need more upgrades? Or just use vase or gum for last 200 rounds. Is that on PFUDOR?
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Jul 25 2017, 17:38
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CPUAMD
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QUOTE(DJNoni @ Jul 26 2017, 00:14)  Or just use vase or gum for last 200 rounds. Is that on PFUDOR?
Yes..
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Jul 25 2017, 17:56
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friggo
Group: Gold Star Club
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With all this discussion on 1H melee on PFUDORfest, I gave it a shot as well. Basically, I think Sapo84 is right: a fully-forged slaughter set + Æsahættr should be able to clear the 1h30m mark (but probably not by too much). Here's the result (the gear I used is linked in my sig): 
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Jul 25 2017, 18:11
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kun110
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I'm sorry to have done this. // But my credit is very small. I do not understand many things. I bought the item at a high price and I can not use it because of Lv. Enough to sell but very cheap Can anyone give me credit or give me a weapon? Or something with me Thank you for your kindness  (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif)
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Jul 25 2017, 18:12
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Fap.Fap
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 1,554
Joined: 19-October 11

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am I the only one, or are others also running out of Monster Chow ? ( maybe Iam not playing enough anymore ) since a Hellfest or some other quick Hell runs are no longer a option, since they need basically the same time as if you would run it in Pfudor I really have some problems with getting enough Chow for my under lvl 251 monsters ( iam even raising their levels now )
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Jul 25 2017, 18:22
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Cleavs
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 24,317
Joined: 18-January 07

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QUOTE(kun110 @ Jul 25 2017, 18:11)  I'm sorry to have done this. // But my credit is very small. I do not understand many things. I bought the item at a high price and I can not use it because of Lv. Enough to sell but very cheap Can anyone give me credit or give me a weapon? Or something with me Thank you for your kindness  (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/anime_cry.gif) if your topics disappeared these days, they did for a reason. please avoid open so many new open ones: if you have questions, feel free to ask here. if you want to chat or discuss, there are other topics. if you need restoratives, there are many shops which can give you potions for free. otherwise, try to reach lv100 (your build should be decent enough) and ask to sweetness overload's giveaway for free credits. but pretty much everyone started from scratch, with little credits and little knowledge. btw, you have an answer in that Thai thread.
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Jul 25 2017, 23:31
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Ser6IjVolk
Group: Members
Posts: 933
Joined: 5-July 08

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This one is much more out of curiosity simply because I can't afford it in practicality: seeing how the prices on Repurposed Actuators are what they are (~65k), which stats are worth upgrading and at what point short of your top legend/peerless forever-equipment at lvl 500?
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Jul 26 2017, 01:00
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Ass Spanker
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 4,197
Joined: 25-July 12

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QUOTE(Fap.Fap @ Jul 25 2017, 18:12)  am I the only one, or are others also running out of Monster Chow ? ( maybe Iam not playing enough anymore ) since a Hellfest or some other quick Hell runs are no longer a option, since they need basically the same time as if you would run it in Pfudor I really have some problems with getting enough Chow for my under lvl 251 monsters ( iam even raising their levels now )
How many monsters do you have? I have no problem with 50 monsters at PL 25. Actually I think I have too much food for the monsters.
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Jul 26 2017, 06:37
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manga522
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 517
Joined: 2-January 17

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QUOTE(friggo @ Jul 25 2017, 23:56)  With all this discussion on 1H melee on PFUDORfest, I gave it a shot as well. Basically, I think Sapo84 is right: a fully-forged slaughter set + Æsahættr should be able to clear the 1h30m mark (but probably not by too much). Here's the result (the gear I used is linked in my sig):  that just great full of information (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) may i ask during the battle sequence did you tactically use the pony cannon to wipe the mobs ?
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Jul 26 2017, 06:40
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friggo
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 9-October 14

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QUOTE(manga522 @ Jul 26 2017, 07:37)  that just great full of information (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) may i ask during the battle sequence did you tactically use the pony cannon to wipe the mobs ? Of course (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) Using the pony cannon basically means you can one-shot every 3rd or 4th round. Without it, the grindfest would've taken at least 30 minutes longer I think.
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