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Jul 20 2017, 22:01
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jantch
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(oddaicky @ Jul 20 2017, 15:47)  I was wondering if anyone else has noticed this discrepancy in salvage results.
Yes. As far as I know, scrap has always had a limit of 10. I just salvaged a phase robe with a bazaar value of 9980, and received 1 HG cloth, 10 scrap, and 7 energy cells. edit: I just found an old post of mine from a couple of years ago asking the same question. My wording implies that the limit was new, but I suspect that I had never salvaged something valuable enough to hit the limit before then, and that my expectations were based on the wiki. QUOTE(jantch @ Sep 4 2015, 13:23)  Has the method to determine the amount of scrap from salvaged equipment changed recently?
I just salvaged magnificent phase pants, with a shop value of 5325c, and received 10 scrap instead of the expected 11.
This post has been edited by jantch: Jul 20 2017, 23:13
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Jul 20 2017, 22:15
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oddaicky
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Joined: 10-December 12

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QUOTE(jantch @ Jul 20 2017, 16:01)  Yes. As far as I know, scrap has always had a limit of 10.
I just salvaged a phase robe with a bazaar value of 9980, and received 1 HG cloth, 10 scrap, and 7 energy cells.
Thanks. I haven't salvaged much "High Value" Equip. The Wiki States: Salvaging yields between 1 and 50 scrap per equipment depending on its sale value. If this is no longer correct, perhaps it should be changed.
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Jul 20 2017, 22:38
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KitsuneAbby
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 7,572
Joined: 12-July 14

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Apparently my OFC got unlocked after I made an offering (artifacts) to Snowflake.
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Jul 20 2017, 23:33
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Cleavs
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 24,317
Joined: 18-January 07

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QUOTE(decondelite @ Jul 20 2017, 22:38)  Apparently my OFC got unlocked after I made an offering (artifacts) to Snowflake.
so odd. well, we should remember to ask the next person to check that.
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Jul 20 2017, 23:46
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Uncle Stu
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 9,899
Joined: 4-February 12

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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jul 20 2017, 23:33)  so odd. well, we should remember to ask the next person to check that.
The list gets longer. Now i just wait for the person that needs to close his zipper to make the OFC working. BTW since when is the OFC that buggy?
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Jul 20 2017, 23:55
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lololo16
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 2,889
Joined: 5-March 12

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QUOTE(Scremaz @ Jul 20 2017, 18:33)  so odd. well, we should remember to ask the next person to check that.
Mine was unlocked before dawn, but don't know what triggered it
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Jul 21 2017, 00:22
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Look A Moth
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So whats an optimal build for staying alive, but still doing good damage? Right now my stats are an even 295 for str/dex/end with wisdom trailing behind at 275 for support magic, and agility and int bringing up the rear at 185, and 100.
I'm running with protection plate, and trying to find a decent enough rapier to replace my axe which apparently sucks in comparison to the abilities of a rapier.
Wanted to do a mage build but apparently that isn't recommended till imperil is unlocked.
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Jul 21 2017, 00:22
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Cleavs
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 24,317
Joined: 18-January 07

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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Jul 20 2017, 23:46)  The list gets longer. Now i just wait for the person that needs to close his zipper to make the OFC working. BTW since when is the OFC that buggy?
0.84, iirc.
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Jul 21 2017, 03:14
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Ass Spanker
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 4,196
Joined: 25-July 12

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QUOTE(Look A Moth @ Jul 21 2017, 00:22)  So whats an optimal build for staying alive, but still doing good damage? Right now my stats are an even 295 for str/dex/end with wisdom trailing behind at 275 for support magic, and agility and int bringing up the rear at 185, and 100.
I'm running with protection plate, and trying to find a decent enough rapier to replace my axe which apparently sucks in comparison to the abilities of a rapier.
Wanted to do a mage build but apparently that isn't recommended till imperil is unlocked.
1H Power FTW. If you want better chance of survival, Power Protection. They're also pretty affordable at several hundred of thousand k for a decent piece. 3/5 pieces of Leg Power + 1 good rapier are enough to PFUDOR all arenas without much healing. If you prefer good damage, Power Slaughter. But they're expensive as hell. But I think it's the Shield that matters the most. Forging a crappy 36% Force to level 25 can boost your survivability a lot.
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Jul 21 2017, 04:49
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Muddybug
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 463
Joined: 28-March 17

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QUOTE(as013 @ Jul 20 2017, 21:14)  1H Power FTW. If you want better chance of survival, Power Protection. They're also pretty affordable at several hundred of thousand k for a decent piece. 3/5 pieces of Leg Power + 1 good rapier are enough to PFUDOR all arenas without much healing. If you prefer good damage, Power Slaughter. But they're expensive as hell. But I think it's the Shield that matters the most. Forging a crappy 36% Force to level 25 can boost your survivability a lot.
If you'll avoid pieces that everyone bids on, and look for pieces that seem to be almost as good, then it's not hard to pick up power protection pieces for 100k per piece or less. Just auction smartly. As an example, people will start this bidding war on a level 390 piece with 97% ADB and the level 411 piece with 93% ADB doesn't get touched. If you don't know how to handle auctions, watch a couple and especially watch Slobber at auction.
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Jul 21 2017, 10:00
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Cleavs
Group: Gold Star Club
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Joined: 18-January 07

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QUOTE(dmyers59 @ Jul 21 2017, 04:49)  As an example, people will start this bidding war on a level 390 piece with 97% ADB and the level 411 piece with 93% ADB doesn't get touched.
i'm more confident that an 83% may reach a low(er) bid, but still fetch a decent price. however, people it's not the first time i read about Slobber's numbers. i'd like to say: 1. what exactly is he doing? 2. if he's not doing anything wrong but is merely doing good deals, people may want to stop advertising his activities too much.
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Jul 21 2017, 11:01
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KitsuneAbby
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 7,572
Joined: 12-July 14

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QUOTE(as013 @ Jul 21 2017, 03:14)  1H Power FTW. If you want better chance of survival, Power Protection. They're also pretty affordable at several hundred of thousand k for a decent piece. 3/5 pieces of Leg Power + 1 good rapier are enough to PFUDOR all arenas without much healing. If you prefer good damage, Power Slaughter. But they're expensive as hell. But I think it's the Shield that matters the most. Forging a crappy 36% Force to level 25 can boost your survivability a lot.
What about Shielding Plate 1H? Yesterday in the evening I tried putting together a few Shielding Plate pieces and a force shield, and I reached 58% block chance. That is, I used 4 Exquisite Shielding Plate out of 5 pieces and a Mag Force Shield, so I can easily imagine going above 70% block chance with better gear. Yeah I'm fully aware that the damage will be garbage (I reached only 3500 damage, while my Power 2H reaches 5500 on the same persona), but frankly I think that it deserves being tried. At least so that you don't go bankrupt from upgrading+repairing a full power set. That being said, there is no way that one will forge a crappy force shield. It's expensive while you can find way better for barely more expensive. A good Buckler of the Barrier or even a good (Reinforced) Kite Shield of Protection is better than a meh force shield. I'd go for those if I owned them. This post has been edited by decondelite: Jul 21 2017, 11:04
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Jul 21 2017, 12:14
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Uncle Stu
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 9,899
Joined: 4-February 12

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QUOTE(decondelite @ Jul 21 2017, 11:01)  What about Shielding Plate 1H?
Good to use if you have nothing else, but the higher block chance does just not justify the lack of damage compare to a good power armor.
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Jul 21 2017, 14:17
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TheTrooper
Lurker
Group: Recruits
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Thanks all for the help the other day, the new Light Armor + Dualwield build is rocking! Here's album 2 days after the changes: (IMG:[ i.imgur.com] http://i.imgur.com/fKigog9.png) (IMG:[ i.imgur.com] http://i.imgur.com/qtAHmLo.png) (IMG:[ i.imgur.com] http://i.imgur.com/0BAEOzC.png) I also wanted to ask: Is Flying Spaghetti Monster the best one to use Blood Tokens on? Should I use Artifacts/Trophies at Shrine right away? How useful are Monsters from Monster Lab actually? Any Hath Perks that I should prioritize save for Innate Arcana? I should be switching to 1H+Shield soon right? That's all, thanks!
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Jul 21 2017, 14:18
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KitsuneAbby
Group: Catgirl Camarilla
Posts: 7,572
Joined: 12-July 14

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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Jul 21 2017, 12:14)  Good to use if you have nothing else, but the higher block chance does just not justify the lack of damage compare to a good power armor.
Well, it does if it means not losing a lot of time to heal, or if you simply can't survive with a Power set. QUOTE(TheTrooper @ Jul 21 2017, 14:17)  Is Flying Spaghetti Monster the best one to use Blood Tokens on?
Should I use Artifacts/Trophies at Shrine right away?
How useful are Monsters from Monster Lab actually?
Any Hath Perks that I should prioritize save for Innate Arcana?
I should be switching to 1H+Shield soon right?
That's all, thanks!
1. Yes, and should be the only one. 2. Do it from time to time or everyday, it's up to you. 3. They're essential to upgrade your equipment, or at least to make money with rare materials. 4. ... Postage Paid? (IMG:[ invalid] style_emoticons/default/heh.gif) More seriously: Vigorous Vitality, Effluent Ether, and then the rest depends on the person. I'd highly recommend Soul Catcher just because it's basically equivalent to 10kC everyday, so it self pays within 250 days (roughly), and then it's all bonus. But I don't think everyone would say it's a priority. This post has been edited by decondelite: Jul 21 2017, 14:32
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Jul 21 2017, 14:53
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Uncle Stu
Group: Gold Star Club
Posts: 9,899
Joined: 4-February 12

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QUOTE(decondelite @ Jul 21 2017, 14:18)  Well, it does if it means not losing a lot of time to heal, or if you simply can't survive with a Power set.
No, not really. The increase of block chance is not nearly high enough to make you survive something you otherwhise wouldnt. QUOTE(decondelite @ Jul 21 2017, 14:18)  1. Yes, and should be the only one.
There is also Konata, you can use to cange your Blood Tokens into Chaos Tokens. So no FSM is not the only someone should do at all. QUOTE(decondelite @ Jul 21 2017, 14:18)  2. Do it from time to time or everyday, it's up to you.
Or he could sell them. QUOTE(decondelite @ Jul 21 2017, 14:18)  3. They're essential to upgrade your equipment, or at least to make money with rare materials.
Not really essential. In the end it is much cheaper and faster to buy most of the materials and bindings you need in the WTS. Of course it doesnt hurt own a few monsters, but it will take a while, some money and tokens to invest before they actually make a difference. QUOTE(decondelite @ Jul 21 2017, 14:18)  Effluent Ether
Effluent Ether is worthless i suggest dont take it, dont waste your money. QUOTE(decondelite @ Jul 21 2017, 14:18)  I'd highly recommend Soul Catcher just because it's basically equivalent to 10kC everyday, so it self pays within 250 days (roughly), and then it's all bonus. But I don't think everyone would say it's a priority.
Soul Catcher? Yeah sure, waste 500 Hath to get a fraction of the soul fragments you get when you just make a few RE per day. And no it is no equivalent to 10k, because buying fragments is not smart and you cant sell them. So i highly recommend dont waste any hath on soul catcher.
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Jul 21 2017, 15:07
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friggo
Group: Gold Star Club
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QUOTE(TheTrooper @ Jul 21 2017, 15:17)  I also wanted to ask:
Is Flying Spaghetti Monster the best one to use Blood Tokens on?
Should I use Artifacts/Trophies at Shrine right away?
How useful are Monsters from Monster Lab actually?
Any Hath Perks that I should prioritize save for Innate Arcana?
I should be switching to 1H+Shield soon right?
That's all, thanks!
Guess I'll throw in my two cents as well: 1. Yes, FSM is the best. If you're comfortably making enough Blood Tokens to run FSM every day, then you can spend the extra ones on Konata for a chance to basically turn your Blood Token into a Chaos Token, or spend them on the Triple Trio and the Tree if you have a big surplus. But yeah, FSM is the best return on investment. 2. It's probably best to sell trophies (some users buy them in bulk). As for artifacts, it depends. Unless you really need the credits, I'd say shrine them. You'd probably want to get the max PAB bonuses from the shrine eventually anyway, so why not? 3. The monsters are really only good for occasionally getting you a valuable binding or rare materials. It's not worth upgrading them with crystals just to get more/better stuff, since having a bunch of low-level ones is always better. Then again, for players who are really high level and have nothing else to spend their credits on, upgrading monsters is a decent credit sink. 4. For hath perks, Soul Catcher is a no-no. Buying fragments is not cost-efficient at all since you can easily earn 50-60 fragments each day just from REs. And once you've soulbound all your equipment, the fragments are basically worthless. The other good perks are Demon Duality (pricey at 2000 hath but the damage bonus is well worth it), Vigorous Vitality, and Innate Arcana as you've said. Stuff like Tokenizer and Crystarium are also good if you're playing a lot. 5. 1H+Shield is pretty much the only way to go if you want to play on higher difficulties as melee. I think I switched from 2H to 1H+Shield at around level 200.
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Jul 21 2017, 15:56
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L4cus
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i noticed 10 bars when i scroll down in battle mode, it almost fill 9 bars when i played it. can anybody tell me what is that function?
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Jul 21 2017, 16:08
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Ser6IjVolk
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Can someone point me to a list of sought-after equips in current meta economy? I know what heavy 1H want, but I'm lost for everyone else. All I remember is that people want Shade and Phase, but what suffixes on them, which staffs, weapons, which procs and bonuses: lost on all of that. Is there a list somewhere? QUOTE(L4cus @ Jul 21 2017, 16:56)  i noticed 10 bars when i scroll down in battle mode, it almost fill 9 bars when i played it. can anybody tell me what is that function?
That's your Experience progression to the next level, every bar is 10%. For grinding I guess. This post has been edited by Ser6IjVolk: Jul 21 2017, 16:09
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