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post Jul 19 2017, 14:51
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QUOTE(as013 @ Jul 19 2017, 14:46) *

Rapier is better

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post Jul 19 2017, 15:19
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QUOTE(as013 @ Jul 19 2017, 20:46) *

Rapier is better

can you tell me why rapier is better?Penetrated Armor?i think void damage is better since procs has only 0.2 chance to happen.

edit: i have done comparison on hell IW. i need one spirit draught to keep spirit stance on when using rapier, while axe needn't. both without Sol or SS.i think this means i have to hit more times when using rapier.

edit2: another question: need i change Spike Shield from Flame(what i use now) to Storm to work with my rapier. i think raising miss chance is good for survive, not for effective.

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post Jul 19 2017, 15:30
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QUOTE(zcb535359 @ Jul 19 2017, 15:19) *

can you tell me why rapier is better?Penetrated Armor?i think void damage is better since procs has only 0.2 chance to happen.

edit:i have done comparison on hell IW. i need one spirit draught to keep spirit stance on when using rapier, while axe needn't. both without Sol or SS.i think this means i have to hit more times when using rapier.

Yes Penetrated armor makes a big difference. And Void is not that special, you just have to remember that every weapon that is not ethereal will get void strike as 10th potency, so if you are not playing DW Light ethereal has absolutly no benefit for you. Also axe has zero parry.
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post Jul 19 2017, 16:38
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QUOTE(zcb535359 @ Jul 19 2017, 08:39) *

Hello, guys. I have some problem to deal with my weapon.
several days ago i got this one from freeshop Magnificent Ethereal Axe of Slaughter. i think its prefix and suffix are good, but most stats are low according to Equipment Ranges table on Wiki.so i didn't soulfuse when i got it. but now i am nearly 30 lv higher, and i still can't find a better one to replace it yet. what i have is Magnificent Shocking Rapier of Balance. i don't like it for its suffix.
what should i do now? does the axe worth soulfuse? or i should continue using it or the rapier until a better one drop?thanks in advance.


Between the two I'd choose the rapier, and I'd consider taking it to IW10, either you doing it or a IW service. I used a Magnificent Rapier of Slaughter (no prefix, high ADB) for around 100 levels. Replaced it just recently.
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post Jul 19 2017, 20:35
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QUOTE(zcb535359 @ Jul 19 2017, 14:39) *

Hello, guys. I have some problem to deal with my weapon.
several days ago i got this one from freeshop Magnificent Ethereal Axe of Slaughter. i think its prefix and suffix are good, but most stats are low according to Equipment Ranges table on Wiki.so i didn't soulfuse when i got it. but now i am nearly 30 lv higher, and i still can't find a better one to replace it yet. what i have is Magnificent Shocking Rapier of Balance. i don't like it for its suffix.
what should i do now? does the axe worth soulfuse? or i should continue using it or the rapier until a better one drop?thanks in advance.


Don't underestimate the usefulness of a good accuracy, especially once you combine it with a +20% anti-parry. Also, don't forget that Balance weapons have a boost in critical chance. For my part I prefer a Balance weapon that deals damage consistently over a Slaughter that misses half of its attacks.

I do think that Axes are trash aswell. Low accuracy, complete absence of parry, high burden... I don't know what it gives for a Heavy 1H, but I hope that it doesn't make you miss your counterattacks.

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post Jul 19 2017, 20:51
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Jul 19 2017, 20:35) *

Don't underestimate the usefulness of a good accuracy, especially once you combine it with a +20% anti-parry. Also, don't forget that Balance weapons have a boost in critical chance. For my part I prefer a Balance weapon that deals damage consistently over a Slaughter that misses half of its attacks.


Let me just say some day you will notice that you have reached a hit chance of nearly 200% just with level ups and dont care at all about a balance weapon.

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I don't know what it gives for a Heavy 1H, but I hope that it doesn't make you miss your counterattacks.

Well it lets you sort of miss counterattacks. Low BUR means higher evade. Evade is something you just dont want as 1H. Because evade acts first, even before block and parry. So evade reduce the chance to get a block or a parry. But of course with heavy the evade chance will still be way too low to actually help you survive, so with heavy armor you just dont benefit from a low BUR. I have read that in the last 100 round of PFUDORFest or so 1H Heavy use SV and that it would be helpfull to survive, but until i have seen it myself i still doubt that.
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post Jul 19 2017, 22:06
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Your accuracy may go up with levels, but the monsters parry/block/evade/resist does so aswell.
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post Jul 19 2017, 22:21
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Jul 19 2017, 22:06) *

Your accuracy may go up with levels, but the monsters parry/block/evade/resist does so aswell.

Do you really think i would care about monster parry/block/evade/resist? You would be wrong, because i dont. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
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post Jul 19 2017, 23:17
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If you don't care missing hits, sure accuracy is useless. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)
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post Jul 19 2017, 23:30
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QUOTE(Uncle Stu @ Jul 19 2017, 20:51) *

Let me just say some day you will notice that you have reached a hit chance of nearly 200% just with level ups and dont care at all about a balance weapon.
Well it lets you sort of miss counterattacks. Low BUR means higher evade. Evade is something you just dont want as 1H. Because evade acts first, even before block and parry. So evade reduce the chance to get a block or a parry. But of course with heavy the evade chance will still be way too low to actually help you survive, so with heavy armor you just dont benefit from a low BUR. I have read that in the last 100 round of PFUDORFest or so 1H Heavy use SV and that it would be helpfull to survive, but until i have seen it myself i still doubt that.


What is SV?

QUOTE(decondelite @ Jul 19 2017, 22:06) *

Your accuracy may go up with levels, but the monsters parry/block/evade/resist does so aswell.

Do they? I thought only the difficulty affects their stats by giving a stat modifier and level only allows you meet different monsters due to the monster cap?
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post Jul 19 2017, 23:42
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What is SV?

Shadow Veil spell.

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Do they? I thought only the difficulty affects their stats by giving a stat modifier and level only allows you meet different monsters due to the monster cap?

yep, they do. monsters become stronger with levels. but the character becomes stronger in a faster way, so you won't see the full effect. something like that.
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post Jul 20 2017, 00:16
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QUOTE(decondelite @ Jul 19 2017, 23:17) *

If you don't care missing hits, sure accuracy is useless. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif)

You dont understand. I dont miss. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

TBH i did even forgot that missing the monsters was a problem once. (IMG:[invalid] style_emoticons/default/blush.gif)

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post Jul 20 2017, 01:15
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So as a 1H heavy, what should I aim for on my armor? I'm guessing HP > MP >>> Dark/Holy resist >>> Elemental resist? And of course you would have to be insane to try and get both Dreadnought AND Capacitor, so you should be happy with either. Or am I wrong and a melee should go for HP only?
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So as a 1H heavy, what should I aim for on my armor? I'm guessing HP > MP >>> Dark/Holy resist >>> Elemental resist? And of course you would have to be insane to try and get both Dreadnought AND Capacitor, so you should be happy with either. Or am I wrong and a melee should go for HP only?

i'd say something like Juggernaut >>>> Holy/Fireproof >>>> Capacitor > all the rest.

and unless you want to do PFfest AND show off your perfect stats, you won't need Jug25. just be happy if something pops out.
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post Jul 20 2017, 03:52
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QUOTE(Ser6IjVolk @ Jul 19 2017, 18:15) *

So as a 1H heavy, what should I aim for on my armor? I'm guessing HP > MP >>> Dark/Holy resist >>> Elemental resist? And of course you would have to be insane to try and get both Dreadnought AND Capacitor, so you should be happy with either. Or am I wrong and a melee should go for HP only?

1H doesn't need that much HP, just be happy with a jug4/5 in all your armor pieces and you're set, in my case what kept me getting hurt the most was the fact that I didn't forge my shield much, try to get a good force shield and forge it until you get at least 60% block, the forging shouldn't take THAT much credits, the shield, maybe 200k~500k considering you're not buying an endgame shield
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post Jul 20 2017, 04:07
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How do you manage to get better equipment when you're in the 150-350 range? It seems like either level unassigned gear is too weak and the good gear is like LV400+ range.

I tried looking around WTS subforum, but I couldnt really find gear that is better that what I have.

Atm it feels like I just have to save up fragments for Soul Binding a high level item to lower it's level so that I can equip it. (if that's how it works)

I'm still fairly new so there is still a bunch I dont know. I generally browse the wiki and the WTS forum but atm I'm still using level 50-100 gear that I got from drops or item shop.

Does it not matter until a particular level or am I just missing something.
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post Jul 20 2017, 07:21
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QUOTE(NekoRenard @ Jul 20 2017, 04:07) *

How do you manage to get better equipment when you're in the 150-350 range? It seems like either level unassigned gear is too weak and the good gear is like LV400+ range.

I tried looking around WTS subforum, but I couldnt really find gear that is better that what I have.

Atm it feels like I just have to save up fragments for Soul Binding a high level item to lower it's level so that I can equip it. (if that's how it works)

I'm still fairly new so there is still a bunch I dont know. I generally browse the wiki and the WTS forum but atm I'm still using level 50-100 gear that I got from drops or item shop.

Does it not matter until a particular level or am I just missing something.


It's hard to get better equipment in the 150-350 range. Some players decide to get Gold Star at that range, to get through the 200-300 range in particular.

Availability of good gear is a real issue. Keep looking for good stuff in WTS, auctions and FreeShop in particular.

Yes, soul binding makes a higher-level item usable. Up to 100 levels higher than your level.

check the wiki advice for advice on playstyle at your level.
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post Jul 20 2017, 07:22
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Thanks for the advice above, guys. I decide to IW my rapier now.
but it seems nobody mentioned my edit2 question. so ask again.
QUOTE(zcb535359 @ Jul 19 2017, 21:19) *

edit2: another question: need i change Spike Shield from Flame(what i use now) to Storm to work with my rapier. i think raising miss chance is good for survive, not for effective.

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post Jul 20 2017, 13:43
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QUOTE(zcb535359 @ Jul 20 2017, 07:22) *

Thanks for the advice above, guys. I decide to IW my rapier now.
but it seems nobody mentioned my edit2 question. so ask again.

You will hardly notice any difference. But changing will probably be slightly better
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